Re : PSA .....Dropping...

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No, that is not my impression at all. While some of the items may include some beta sitosterol, one of the many compounds in oleander, is a separate consideration and should be supplemented separately if you want to add it. I would opt for pine oil over the sugar cane fiber (maybe it's that word "sugar"). It is definitely considered a good item for prostate problems, including cancer.

oleander soup , Rupert Jameson <rupert.jameson wrote:>> Hi Tony> > Thanks for your response. Am I right that the active ingredient in these products and saw palmetto etc. is Beta-sistosterol; I note that Roger Mason recommends the extract of sugar cane fibre or pine oil as an ideal source because of much higher concentration. What would be your opinion on this for a PCa sufferer? > > --- En date de : Mer 1.4.09, Tony a écrit :> > De: Tony Objet: Re : Re: PSA .....Dropping...> À: oleander soup > Mercredi 1 Avril 2009, 1h59> > > > > > > > Be sure to get nettle root and not nettle leaf. Also, pumpkin seeds and pumpkin seed oil are widely used and highly regarded.> Tony> > oleander soup, Rupert Jameson <rupert.jameson@ ...> wrote:> >> > Hi Tony,> > > > Thanks for your message. I am going to try nettles. I tried saw palmetto and pygeum before without success. I forgot to mention that I already take a 5mg tablet of HYTRINE nightly without which I would have to get up at least 4 - 5 times ..> > > > Best regards> > > > Rupert> > > > > > > > --- En date de : Mar 31.3.09, Tony @ . a écrit :> > > > De: Tony @ .> > Objet: Re: PSA .....Dropping. ..> > À: oleander soup> > Mardi 31 Mars 2009, 3h06> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is wonderful news, Rupert!> > Have you tried stinging nettle or pygeum for urination problems? Many people swear by saw palmetto but that might not be the best option when cancer is involved.> > Please keep us posted on how well you are doing and thanks for the testimonial.> > Tony> > > > oleander soup, "rupert.jameson" <rupert.jameson@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > This group encouraged me enough so that I rejected the usual cut, burn, poison route and started slowly with JB diet last August. Now I would like to report briefly what I have been doing and the outcome to date which may be an encouragement to those who have a similar problem and start from the same base as me.> > > > > > In July a biopsy confirmed that I had PCa 3+3=6. The urologist was ready with his scalpel but allowed me to see the radiologist first who convinced me that radiation would do the trick, so I bought the very expensive hormone treatment pills he prescribed for me before going to get radiated. Then I had a few weeks grace which I used to study alternative treatments. As a result of doing a lot of reading and internet research I decided to go for alternative treatment. The pills I bought are still in the fridge and so I have had no other treatment than what I describe below.> > > > > > A graph I plotted of the PSA progression showed a doubling time of about 2.5 years and it had reached 11.8 when I had the biopsy. I started slowly in August with the JB protocol which was easier than I thought, though I could not stand the taste of FOCC on salad and I only take it with fruit for breakfast and dinner. Actually I take not much raw vegetables but instead drink fresh carrot and beetroot juice every aternoon and green tea. I take hot veg soup every evening and a glass of red wine. We buy BIO products whenever posible. It was not so difficult to do without animal products thanks to the wonderful support of my wife. (I do miss her chocolate cakes though). Apart from the diet I am taking with each meal A gellule of Sutherlandia OPC and 1500 IU D3 and a few apricot kernels or B17. In the morning I take Selenium and Zinc tablets and a gellule of Milk Thistle. Nuts or oatmeal bicuits I may snack on when I feel like it. It seems that I can get> > away with eating chocolate (dark, 85% cocoa) to which I am addicted. Apart from the PSA drop the other major effect is a loss of 8kg since I started the diet. I hope not to loose more.> > > > > > One factor that has not changed is the matter urination. It has not got easier and I still have to get up twice a night. I had hoped that as the cancer diminishes the flow should improve. Can anyone comment on this or advise if I can treat this somehow?> > > > > > My PSA has been steadily dropping since I started the protocol apart from an alarming leap in January which I put down to having been tested when I had flu symptoms. The PSA is today at 7.13, thus the PSA value has effectively fallen 40% in just over 7 months. Dare I imagine that by October I will be <4PSA?> > > > > > It is amazing that here in France very few people try alternative methods for PCa. I notice that nearly all postings on the internet on this subject are in English which may be a reason. I am only the second person my urologist has had who turned down the mainstream treatment. But he did say that he might do the same as me if ever he gets the PCa!!!!!!!!! !!> > > > > > Wishing all good progress on their road to recovery> > > > > > Rupert> > >> >>