Guest guest Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 There are no Anvirzel supplements, but you can buy the OPC oleander based supplement, which is really available only from South Africa from the one website (sutherlandiaopc.com) - though I have made arrangements to keep a small supply on hand to help those who need more urgent delivery than the typical 10 days to 2 weeks it takes to ship from South Africa. I want to emphasize that I am NOT a reseller of the OPC and only do this to help those who have a need for quicker delivery of their first one or two bottles of capsules. All the best, oleander soup , Natalie Cella <nataliecella wrote:>> HI ,> thank you for your prayers they are very much appreciated> Mum was only just released from hospital after 5 weeks, so we haven't been able to get her on the oleander, she is eating reasonably well but it is difficult for her to stomach a lot of fluids, I am trying to find somewhere I can buy the Anvirzel supplements instead but have had no luck..any suggestions?> thank you > Natalie> > --- On Thu, 5/14/09, May luellamay129 wrote:> > May luellamay129 Re: Re: Mom has cancer yet again....> oleander soup > Thursday, May 14, 2009, 2:50 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natalie,> > I am so very sorry to hear about your mother. Please know that my prayers are with you both. Are you implementing Oleander and Tony's protocol and how long has she been on it?> > We are here for you and support you. I look forward to hearing of her progress and await good news.> > Hang in there.> > Hugs,> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Natalie, I don't know any difference between anything so this is not a recommendation just an answer to your question anvirzel is at www.saludintegral.hn and you have to get approved from the docs down in honduras you can't just order it. Blessings Rhonda On 5/15/09, Natalie Cella <nataliecella wrote: > HI , > thank you for your prayers they are very much appreciated > Mum was only just released from hospital after 5 weeks, so we haven't been > able to get her on the oleander, she is eating reasonably well but it is > difficult for her to stomach a lot of fluids, I am trying to find somewhere > I can buy the Anvirzel supplements instead but have had no luck..any > suggestions? > thank you > Natalie > > --- On Thu, 5/14/09, May <luellamay129 wrote: > > May <luellamay129 > Re: Re: Mom has cancer yet again.... > oleander soup > Thursday, May 14, 2009, 2:50 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natalie, > > I am so very sorry to hear about your mother. Please know that my prayers > are with you both. Are you implementing Oleander and Tony's protocol and > how long has she been on it? > > We are here for you and support you. I look forward to hearing of her > progress and await good news. > > Hang in there. > > Hugs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Sent from my mobile device Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Hi Natalie, Sutherlandia OPC and Anvirzel have the very same ingredient (oleander). The only difference is that Anvirzel is way more expensive and, actually, Sutherlandia OPC has the very same effect on cancer. With this, follow Tony's protocol the best you can. I am so very glad that your mom is back home after a five week stay in the hospital. Please do keep us informed as to how she does. You do have the exact instructions on the Sutherlandia OPC dosage and how to administer it? Just in case, here it is: Sutherlandia OPC ( 60 Capsules) Start off by taking 1 capsule with breakfast for 2 days. Increase dosage to 1 capsule twice per day (2 caps total) with breakfast and lunch for a further 2 days. For more serious ailments increase dosage to 2 capsules twice per day (4 caps total) with breakfast and lunch for 1 month. If no improvement, increase dosage to 3 capsules twice per day (6 caps total) with breakfast and lunch for 2 months. When in remission, the dosage can be reduced to 2 capsules per day for at least a further 3 - 6 months. Natalie, I wish you my very best. Hugs, oleander soup , Natalie Cella <nataliecella wrote:>> HI ,> thank you for your prayers they are very much appreciated> Mum was only just released from hospital after 5 weeks, so we haven't been able to get her on the oleander, she is eating reasonably well but it is difficult for her to stomach a lot of fluids, I am trying to find somewhere I can buy the Anvirzel supplements instead but have had no luck..any suggestions?> thank you > Natalie> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 , Thank you for following that up! I hope that you don't think I was teling her that that is the route that she needed to go! I will be ordering the sutherlandia opc as soon as I have access to my computer! Do you offhand know how much it costs? I know the dosing for the anvirzel (thank goodness I found this group and you all) was going to run me 1500 for a two month supply! Yikes. Also I wanted to ask (remember I'm on my crackberry not a computer) what does NAC mean. Have any of you done or read the research on the effects of melatonin on cancer? My son has been taking it for two years as a sleeping aid because that boy would never sleep otherwise. Aside from the melatonin right now he tales boswellia, green tea extract and blueberry extract also as much of the vit C supplement he wants! They are 100mg tasty tablets that they love so unless they get diarrhea from it I let them all have at it!!!!!!!! He is a good eater loves veggies and eats tomatoes like they were apples. There are certain things in the protocol that we absolutely could not follow as my poor stubborn boy woulld die of starvation! We don't have a microwave, we use natural spring water, and try very hard to minimize packaged foods but our budget is limited! Regardess I truly believe that he will be healed and in 5 years I will be able to happily tell you all that my son is in remission!!!!!!! With love and blessings to all Rhonda On 5/15/09, May <luellamay129 wrote: > > Hi Natalie, > > Sutherlandia OPC and Anvirzel have the very same ingredient (oleander). > The only difference is that Anvirzel is way more expensive and, > actually, Sutherlandia OPC has the very same effect on cancer. With > this, follow Tony's protocol the best you can. > > I am so very glad that your mom is back home after a five week stay in > the hospital. Please do keep us informed as to how she does. You do > have the exact instructions on the Sutherlandia OPC dosage and how to > administer it? Just in case, here it is: > > Sutherlandia OPC ( 60 Capsules) > > Start off by taking 1 capsule with breakfast for 2 days. > > Increase dosage to 1 capsule twice per day (2 caps total) with breakfast > and lunch for a further 2 days. > > For more serious ailments increase dosage to 2 capsules twice per day (4 > caps total) with breakfast and lunch for 1 month. > > If no improvement, increase dosage to 3 capsules twice per day (6 caps > total) with breakfast and lunch for 2 months. > > When in remission, the dosage can be reduced to 2 capsules per day for > at least a further 3 - 6 months. > > Natalie, I wish you my very best. > > Hugs, > > > > > > oleander soup , Natalie Cella <nataliecella > wrote: >> >> HI , >> thank you for your prayers they are very much appreciated >> Mum was only just released from hospital after 5 weeks, so we haven't > been able to get her on the oleander, she is eating reasonably well but > it is difficult for her to stomach a lot of fluids, I am trying to find > somewhere I can buy the Anvirzel supplements instead but have had no > luck..any suggestions? >> thank you >> Natalie >> >> > > -- Sent from my mobile device Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Oh thank you you are a lovebug for sure!!! You are amazing...truly. Tammatha - May oleander soup Thursday, May 14, 2009 9:38 AM Re: Mom has cancer yet again.... Ooooooooh Tammatha! I know how very hard this is for you. Please know that we are here for you. Hopefully, there will be an answer and she will be okay. Love and Hugs, oleander soup , "Tammatha" <tammatha wrote:>> Thank you....we'll have results on Friday I think. She won't have a change of heart unfortunately about natural healing. > > Tammatha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Hi Rhonda, Of course not! I thought no such thing and I'm sure no one else did either. This forum is for everyone to share their experiences. The Sutherlandia OPC capsules cost $45 and the Liquid is $60. The liquid is more expensive because of weight. Keep in mind, both these prices include shipping. NAC I believe stands for N-Acetylcysteine and, frankly, I do not know if melatonin has any effect on cancer. Maybe someone can pop in with this information. Hope this answers, well at least some of your questions. And by the way...... I am looking forward to when you announce that your son's cancer is healed. Forget about remission. Lots of hugs, oleander soup , rhonda ebrom <dipghater wrote:>> ,> Thank you for following that up! I hope that you don't think I> was teling her that that is the route that she needed to go! I will> be ordering the sutherlandia opc as soon as I have access to my> computer! Do you offhand know how much it costs? I know the dosing> for the anvirzel (thank goodness I found this group and you all) was> going to run me 1500 for a two month supply! Yikes.> Also I wanted to ask (remember I'm on my crackberry not a> computer) what does NAC mean.> Have any of you done or read the research on the effects of> melatonin on cancer? My son has been taking it for two years as a> sleeping aid because that boy would never sleep otherwise. Aside from> the melatonin right now he tales boswellia, green tea extract and> blueberry extract also as much of the vit C supplement he wants! They> are 100mg tasty tablets that they love so unless they get diarrhea> from it I let them all have at it!!!!!!!!> He is a good eater loves veggies and eats tomatoes like they were> apples. There are certain things in the protocol that we absolutely> could not follow as my poor stubborn boy woulld die of starvation! We> don't have a microwave, we use natural spring water, and try very hard> to minimize packaged foods but our budget is limited!> Regardess I truly believe that he will be healed and in 5 years I> will be able to happily tell you all that my son is in> remission!!!!!!!> With love and blessings to all> Rhonda> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Yes, I take melatonin everyday (the life extension brand) excellent products. It is good for breast cancer and prostate cancer as it helps balance the hormones it is benefical for hormone driven cancers. On another note...also my dog takes it, is was recommended by the University of Tennessee for dogs with Cushings. Tammatha - May oleander soup Friday, May 15, 2009 12:01 PM Re: Mom has cancer yet again.... Hi Rhonda, Of course not! I thought no such thing and I'm sure no one else did either. This forum is for everyone to share their experiences. The Sutherlandia OPC capsules cost $45 and the Liquid is $60. The liquid is more expensive because of weight. Keep in mind, both these prices include shipping. NAC I believe stands for N-Acetylcysteine and, frankly, I do not know if melatonin has any effect on cancer. Maybe someone can pop in with this information. Hope this answers, well at least some of your questions. And by the way...... I am looking forward to when you announce that your son's cancer is healed. Forget about remission. Lots of hugs, oleander soup , rhonda ebrom <dipghater wrote:>> ,> Thank you for following that up! I hope that you don't think I> was teling her that that is the route that she needed to go! I will> be ordering the sutherlandia opc as soon as I have access to my> computer! Do you offhand know how much it costs? I know the dosing> for the anvirzel (thank goodness I found this group and you all) was> going to run me 1500 for a two month supply! Yikes.> Also I wanted to ask (remember I'm on my crackberry not a> computer) what does NAC mean.> Have any of you done or read the research on the effects of> melatonin on cancer? My son has been taking it for two years as a> sleeping aid because that boy would never sleep otherwise. Aside from> the melatonin right now he tales boswellia, green tea extract and> blueberry extract also as much ! of the vit C supplement he wants! They> are 100mg tasty tablets that they love so unless they get diarrhea> from it I let them all have at it!!!!!!!!> He is a good eater loves veggies and eats tomatoes like they were> apples. There are certain things in the protocol that we absolutely> could not follow as my poor stubborn boy woulld die of starvation! We> don't have a microwave, we use natural spring water, and try very hard> to minimize packaged foods but our budget is limited!> Regardess I truly believe that he will be healed and in 5 years I> will be able to happily tell you all that my son is in> remission!!!!!!!> With love and blessings to all> Rhonda> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Hi ,thank you so much for the heads up on the Sutherlandia OPC, I have just placed an order for a few bottles, In the capsules im sure mum will be able to take them they were quite in-expensive $45USD a bottle compared to the anvirzel supplements...As you are aware, mums cancer has progressed quite a lot, i just hope and pray the Sutherlandia will have a positive effect on her, the order wont arrive for about a week but as soon as they do Ill get her onto them and let you know of her progress, as far as possible we are following tony's protocol - it is much easier she is out of hospital, though she can't walk outside and is quite weak she is still getting tons of fresh air and sunlight and only drinks filtered water, trying to keep her diet as healthy as possible- but its hard as she isn''t eating a great deal.anyway thank you again for your advice and prayers :)speak soonNatalie --- On Fri, 5/15/09, rhonda ebrom <dipghater wrote:rhonda ebrom <dipghaterRe: Re: Mom has cancer yet again....oleander soup Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 5:50 PM , Thank you for following that up! I hope that you don't think I was teling her that that is the route that she needed to go! I will be ordering the sutherlandia opc as soon as I have access to my computer! Do you offhand know how much it costs? I know the dosing for the anvirzel (thank goodness I found this group and you all) was going to run me 1500 for a two month supply! Yikes. Also I wanted to ask (remember I'm on my crackberry not a computer) what does NAC mean. Have any of you done or read the research on the effects of melatonin on cancer? My son has been taking it for two years as a sleeping aid because that boy would never sleep otherwise. Aside from the melatonin right now he tales boswellia, green tea extract and blueberry extract also as much of the vit C supplement he wants! They are 100mg tasty tablets that they love so unless they get diarrhea from it I let them all have at it!!!!!!!! He is a good eater loves veggies and eats tomatoes like they were apples. There are certain things in the protocol that we absolutely could not follow as my poor stubborn boy woulld die of starvation! We don't have a microwave, we use natural spring water, and try very hard to minimize packaged foods but our budget is limited! Regardess I truly believe that he will be healed and in 5 years I will be able to happily tell you all that my son is in remission!!! !!!! With love and blessings to all Rhonda On 5/15/09, May <luellamay129@ > wrote: > > Hi Natalie, > > Sutherlandia OPC and Anvirzel have the very same ingredient (oleander). > The only difference is that Anvirzel is way more expensive and, > actually, Sutherlandia OPC has the very same effect on cancer. With > this, follow Tony's protocol the best you can. > > I am so very glad that your mom is back home after a five week stay in > the hospital. Please do keep us informed as to how she does. You do > have the exact instructions on the Sutherlandia OPC dosage and how to > administer it? Just in case, here it is: > > Sutherlandia OPC ( 60 Capsules) > > Start off by taking 1 capsule with breakfast for 2 days. > > Increase dosage to 1 capsule twice per day (2 caps total) with breakfast > and lunch for a further 2 days. > > For more serious ailments increase dosage to 2 capsules twice per day (4 > caps total) with breakfast and lunch for 1 month. > > If no improvement, increase dosage to 3 capsules twice per day (6 caps > total) with breakfast and lunch for 2 months. > > When in remission, the dosage can be reduced to 2 capsules per day for > at least a further 3 - 6 months. > > Natalie, I wish you my very best. > > Hugs, > > > > > > oleander soup, Natalie Cella <nataliecella@ ...> > wrote: >> >> HI , >> thank you for your prayers they are very much appreciated >> Mum was only just released from hospital after 5 weeks, so we haven't > been able to get her on the oleander, she is eating reasonably well but > it is difficult for her to stomach a lot of fluids, I am trying to find > somewhere I can buy the Anvirzel supplements instead but have had no > luck..any suggestions? >> thank you >> Natalie >> >> > > -- Sent from my mobile device Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 Hi Natalie, I am so glad your mother is back home. Do the best you can with the Protocol. Remember, we are here for you. Hugs, oleander soup , Natalie Cella <nataliecella wrote:>> Hi ,> thank you so much for the heads up on the Sutherlandia OPC, I have just placed an order for a few bottles, In the capsules im sure mum will be able to take them they were quite in-expensive $45USD a bottle compared to the anvirzel supplements...As you are aware, mums cancer has progressed quite a lot, i just hope and pray the Sutherlandia will have a positive effect on her, the order wont arrive for about a week but as soon as they do Ill get her onto them and let you know of her progress, as far as possible we are following tony's protocol - it is much easier she is out of hospital, though she can't walk outside and is quite weak she is still getting tons of fresh air and sunlight and only drinks filtered water, trying to keep her diet as healthy as possible- but its hard as she isn''t eating a great deal.anyway thank you again for your advice and prayers > speak soon> Natalie > > --- On Fri, 5/15/09, rhonda ebrom dipghater wrote:> > rhonda ebrom dipghater Re: Re: Mom has cancer yet again....> oleander soup > Friday, May 15, 2009, 5:50 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ,> > Thank you for following that up! I hope that you don't think I> > was teling her that that is the route that she needed to go! I will> > be ordering the sutherlandia opc as soon as I have access to my> > computer! Do you offhand know how much it costs? I know the dosing> > for the anvirzel (thank goodness I found this group and you all) was> > going to run me 1500 for a two month supply! Yikes.> > Also I wanted to ask (remember I'm on my crackberry not a> > computer) what does NAC mean.> > Have any of you done or read the research on the effects of> > melatonin on cancer? My son has been taking it for two years as a> > sleeping aid because that boy would never sleep otherwise. Aside from> > the melatonin right now he tales boswellia, green tea extract and> > blueberry extract also as much of the vit C supplement he wants! They> > are 100mg tasty tablets that they love so unless they get diarrhea> > from it I let them all have at it!!!!!!!!> > He is a good eater loves veggies and eats tomatoes like they were> > apples. There are certain things in the protocol that we absolutely> > could not follow as my poor stubborn boy woulld die of starvation! We> > don't have a microwave, we use natural spring water, and try very hard> > to minimize packaged foods but our budget is limited!> > Regardess I truly believe that he will be healed and in 5 years I> > will be able to happily tell you all that my son is in> > remission!!! !!!!> > With love and blessings to all> > Rhonda> > > > On 5/15/09, May <luellamay129@ > wrote:> > >> > > Hi Natalie,> > >> > > Sutherlandia OPC and Anvirzel have the very same ingredient (oleander)..> > > The only difference is that Anvirzel is way more expensive and,> > > actually, Sutherlandia OPC has the very same effect on cancer. With> > > this, follow Tony's protocol the best you can.> > >> > > I am so very glad that your mom is back home after a five week stay in> > > the hospital. Please do keep us informed as to how she does. You do> > > have the exact instructions on the Sutherlandia OPC dosage and how to> > > administer it? Just in case, here it is:> > >> > > Sutherlandia OPC ( 60 Capsules)> > >> > > Start off by taking 1 capsule with breakfast for 2 days.> > >> > > Increase dosage to 1 capsule twice per day (2 caps total) with breakfast> > > and lunch for a further 2 days.> > >> > > For more serious ailments increase dosage to 2 capsules twice per day (4> > > caps total) with breakfast and lunch for 1 month.> > >> > > If no improvement, increase dosage to 3 capsules twice per day (6 caps> > > total) with breakfast and lunch for 2 months.> > >> > > When in remission, the dosage can be reduced to 2 capsules per day for> > > at least a further 3 - 6 months.> > >> > > Natalie, I wish you my very best.> > >> > > Hugs,> > >> > > > > >> > >> > >> > > oleander soup, Natalie Cella <nataliecella@ ....>> > > wrote:> > >>> > >> HI ,> > >> thank you for your prayers they are very much appreciated> > >> Mum was only just released from hospital after 5 weeks, so we haven't> > > been able to get her on the oleander, she is eating reasonably well but> > > it is difficult for her to stomach a lot of fluids, I am trying to find> > > somewhere I can buy the Anvirzel supplements instead but have had no> > > luck..any suggestions?> > >> thank you > > >> Natalie> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > -- > > Sent from my mobile device> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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