Benefits of Oleander and a question

[Guest guest]

Hi, I joined the group over a month ago. At the time, I was awaiting a shipment

of Oleander. I wanted to report that since taking the Oleander, I have felt an

amazing change in my energy levels. I will be doing another Navarro test in the

near future to check my numbers, but the improvement in my energy alone is a

great benefit.

 

I had one question tho----I take Cell Forte Max 3 also, and wondered if there is

any danger in taking too many immune boosters at once. Can you run a risk of

OVERstimulating the immune system?? Any input would be appreciated....Thanks to

everyone who posts on this site with advice and personal stories, it is helpful

to read what others are going thru.

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for posting, and welcome to the group! I am so glad you are already starting to see the difference in how you feel, and this where it starts. Please be sure and share the results of the Navarro Test. Keep in mind, you have just started to take Oleander, so don't be disappointed if the numbers don't drop right away. Although some people do get quick results. On an average it takes about two to three months to start seeing results. However, the fact that you are feeling so much better shows that something is going on!

Oh! I almost forgot your other question. The only supplement that would interfere with Oleander is Protocel. Otherwise, no, you cannot take too many immune boosting supplements. In fact, Inositol/IP6 is included in Tony's Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol, together with many others. Here is the link. Actually, I would suggest that you implement as many of these as possible.

/anticancer.htm

And........... Congratulations!

My very best to you,

 

oleander soup , "jlane12664" <jlane12664 wrote:>> Hi, I joined the group over a month ago. At the time, I was awaiting a shipment of Oleander. I wanted to report that since taking the Oleander, I have felt an amazing change in my energy levels. I will be doing another Navarro test in the near future to check my numbers, but the improvement in my energy alone is a great benefit.> > I had one question tho----I take Cell Forte Max 3 also, and wondered if there is any danger in taking too many immune boosters at once. Can you run a risk of OVERstimulating the immune system?? Any input would be appreciated....Thanks to everyone who posts on this site with advice and personal stories, it is helpful to read what others are going thru.>

[Guest guest]

a shipment of oleander from where? do you mean the sutherlandia OPC or

oleander made into soup from someone more affordably, or a bush?

 

i don't know where to find live oleander around here (maryland) in the wild

that i can trust isn't full of chem spray if it even grows around here at

all. can't afford the OPC product. would love to hook up with some soup

made by someone who does a good job where the bush is plentiful.

 

meanwhile my hep-C cruises along, not bad but not good if i back off on my

CSilver (which i'm trying to find an affordable way to do).

 

 

bobL

 

>

> oleander soup

> oleander soup On Behalf Of jlane12664

> Wednesday, May 13, 2009 6:29 PM

> oleander soup

> Benefits of Oleander and a question

>

> Hi, I joined the group over a month ago. At the time, I was

> awaiting a shipment of Oleander. I wanted to report that

> since taking the Oleander, I have felt an amazing change in

> my energy levels. I will be doing another Navarro test in the

> near future to check my numbers, but the improvement in my

> energy alone is a great benefit.

>

> I had one question tho----I take Cell Forte Max 3 also, and

> wondered if there is any danger in taking too many immune

> boosters at once. Can you run a risk of OVERstimulating the

> immune system?? Any input would be appreciated....Thanks to

> everyone who posts on this site with advice and personal

> stories, it is helpful to read what others are going thru.

>

>

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Hi Bob,

Try looking for an oleander plant through organic nurseries. This may be your best bet. I believe Tony is against mailing Oleander Soup between members because of the FDA ramifications.

Even when getting the plant from an organic nursery, make sure that it has not been sprayed with insecticides.

Hope this helps.

Warm regards,

 

oleander soup , "bob Larson" <bobList wrote:>> a shipment of oleander from where? do you mean the sutherlandia OPC or> oleander made into soup from someone more affordably, or a bush?> > i don't know where to find live oleander around here (maryland) in the wild> that i can trust isn't full of chem spray if it even grows around here at> all. can't afford the OPC product. would love to hook up with some soup> made by someone who does a good job where the bush is plentiful.> > meanwhile my hep-C cruises along, not bad but not good if i back off on my> CSilver (which i'm trying to find an affordable way to do).> > > bobL >

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Hi Bob,

 

Try looking for an oleander plant through organic nurseries. This

may be your best bet.

 

....i don't know of an organic nursery around here, and doubt there are any

that would have anything but vege starts.

 

I believe Tony is against mailing Oleander Soup between members because of

the FDA ramifications.

 

....of course, he must be. however i'm not averse to hooking up. if i do

i'll not be advertising it.

 

 

Even when getting the plant from an organic nursery, make sure that

it has not been sprayed with insecticides.

 

....and how could that be done? i have read that it would show in the taste

of the soup, but that's a lot of trouble to find it all a waste.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Warm regards,

 

 

....thanks,

bobL

[Guest guest]

Hi Bob,

Whereabouts do you live? Another option would be to check for organic nurseries online. To make sure that it has not been sprayed with pesticides, just ask them.

The problem with mailing the soup among members is twofold. First, it would have to be packaged properly to avoid leakage and breakage. Liquids are actually very difficult to mail. Secondly, how would you describe it at the post office? One must be extremely careful. The ramifications could be severe, actually affecting the entire group. I am going to wait until Tony comes online and maybe he will have some suggestions as how to handle this matter.

Don't despair, there is a solution here somewhere.

Warm regards,

 

oleander soup , "bob Larson" <bobList wrote:>> > > Hi Bob,> > Try looking for an oleander plant through organic nurseries. This> may be your best bet.> > ...i don't know of an organic nursery around here, and doubt there are any> that would have anything but vege starts.> > I believe Tony is against mailing Oleander Soup between members because of> the FDA ramifications.> > ...of course, he must be. however i'm not averse to hooking up. if i do> i'll not be advertising it.> > > Even when getting the plant from an organic nursery, make sure that> it has not been sprayed with insecticides.> > ...and how could that be done? i have read that it would show in the taste> of the soup, but that's a lot of trouble to find it all a waste.> > Hope this helps.> > Warm regards,> > > > ...thanks,> bobL>

[Guest guest]

maryland. gets too cold in winter.

i've just been looking for info on growing here or live plants for sale and

having a hard time finding anything that isn't a convoluted click-thru maze.

i haven't physically looked locally, or called around, yet. i need a plant

big enough to harvest by fall... i'd prefer on big enough to harvest next

week. maybe craig's list. somebody may have one they've had in a big pot

for a few years. ebay has a couple starters 2' high, gallon pot size root

ball, but don't know if one or two would make a serious batch of soup in a

few months.

 

i don't know about asking nurseries around here re chem exposure, as so many

people will tell you anything for money... depends on the whole feel of the

situation if found.

 

in the mail i just call it home-made soup. or herbal extract. people mail

MMS which is caustic if leaked, and the dried sodium chlorite is dangerously

flammable in contact with anything organic (burnable, carbon containing).

i've mailed jelly and mason jars of CSilver, lid taped, sealed into a zip

lock bag and bubble wrapped, with no problems. i tell the post office it's

mineral water (true).

 

i guess if someone has extra to share/trade i'll hear from them... ? i

know there's OSoup enthusiasts in texas on this list as that's how i ended

up here. one of them had me going on back-channel explaining about torn

paper wall and floor treatments for hours a couple years ago ;-)

 

bobL

 

 

 

 

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Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:09 PM

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Re: Benefits of Oleander and a question

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Bob,

 

Whereabouts do you live? Another option would be to check for

organic nurseries online. To make sure that it has not been sprayed with

pesticides, just ask them.

 

The problem with mailing the soup among members is twofold. First,

it would have to be packaged properly to avoid leakage and breakage.

Liquids are actually very difficult to mail. Secondly, how would you

describe it at the post office? One must be extremely careful. The

ramifications could be severe, actually affecting the entire group. I am

going to wait until Tony comes online and maybe he will have some

suggestions as how to handle this matter.

 

Don't despair, there is a solution here somewhere.

 

Warm regards,

 

[Guest guest]

,

 

I've been reading here for a couple of weeks and am planning to get started on oleander as soon as I do some cleansing. I have been taking a product called Zynergy, which I am now uncertain is compatible with oleander. My understanding of Zynergy is that it was developed to help people that were/are not getting results with Protocel. But I honestly don't know if it works the same way as Protocel and would be incompatible with the same things as Protocel. I had emailed Marc and he said I could take Zynergy with the Sutherlandia OPC. But reading your post about Protocel made me uncertain. Are you aware of Zynergy and its compatibility with oleander? Zynergy is composed of Monatomic Gold and Diatomic Indium. I believe Protocel's ingredients include: Tetrahydroxyquinone, Rhodizonic Acid, Sodium, Potassium, Croconic Acid, Triquinoyl, Pyrocatechol, Leuconic Acid, mineral and trace elements including Copper.

 

Thank you for any insight you may have on compatibility of Zynegy and oleander.

 

Lori

 

--- On Wed, 5/13/09, May <luellamay129 wrote:

May <luellamay129 Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionoleander soup Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 10:55 PM

 

 

 

Oh! I almost forgot your other question. The only supplement that would interfere with Oleander is Protocel. My very best to you,

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Lori,

Marc is extremely knowledgeable in matters as these. If he says it's okay to take it, then you can count on it without a doubt.oleander soup , Lori Warner <loriwarner wrote:>> ,> > I've been reading here for a couple of weeks and am planning to get started on oleander as soon as I do some cleansing. I have been taking a product called Zynergy, which I am now uncertain is compatible with oleander. My understanding of Zynergy is that it was developed to help people that were/are not getting results with Protocel. But I honestly don't know if it works the same way as Protocel and would be incompatible with the same things as Protocel. I had emailed Marc and he said I could take Zynergy with the Sutherlandia OPC. But reading your post about Protocel made me uncertain. Are you aware of Zynergy and its compatibility with oleander? Zynergy is composed of Monatomic Gold and Diatomic Indium. I believe Protocel's ingredients include: Tetrahydroxyquinone, Rhodizonic Acid, Sodium, Potassium, Croconic Acid, Triquinoyl, Pyrocatechol, Leuconic Acid, mineral and trace elements including Copper.> > Thank you for any insight you may have on compatibility of Zynegy and oleander.> > Lori> > --- On Wed, 5/13/09, May luellamay129 wrote:> > > May luellamay129 Re: Benefits of Oleander and a question> oleander soup > Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 10:55 PM> > > > > > > > > > Oh! I almost forgot your other question. The only supplement that would interfere with Oleander is Protocel. My very best to you,> > > > > > > Recent Activity> > > 19> New MembersVisit Your Group > > > > Share Photos> Put your favorite> photos and> more online.> > New web site?> Drive traffic now.> Get your business> on search.> > Weight Management Group> on > Join the challenge> and lose weight.> ..>

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Bob,

Good luck on your quest. You will find it. In the winter time you can keep the potted oleander plant inside. To make a good batch of soup you would need enough leaves to fill a shopping bag, so you can gauge the plant you are looking for by that. If you want to make the soup right away, then I would suggest getting a sizable plant.

Please let me know how you do.

Hmmmm....... "Home made soup." I like it.

Warm regards,

 

 

oleander soup , "bob Larson" <bobList wrote:>> maryland. gets too cold in winter.> i've just been looking for info on growing here or live plants for sale and> having a hard time finding anything that isn't a convoluted click-thru maze.> i haven't physically looked locally, or called around, yet. i need a plant> big enough to harvest by fall... i'd prefer on big enough to harvest next> week. maybe craig's list. somebody may have one they've had in a big pot> for a few years. ebay has a couple starters 2' high, gallon pot size root> ball, but don't know if one or two would make a serious batch of soup in a> few months.> > i don't know about asking nurseries around here re chem exposure, as so many> people will tell you anything for money... depends on the whole feel of the> situation if found.> > in the mail i just call it home-made soup. or herbal extract. people mail> MMS which is caustic if leaked, and the dried sodium chlorite is dangerously> flammable in contact with anything organic (burnable, carbon containing).> i've mailed jelly and mason jars of CSilver, lid taped, sealed into a zip> lock bag and bubble wrapped, with no problems. i tell the post office it's> mineral water (true).> > i guess if someone has extra to share/trade i'll hear from them... ? i> know there's OSoup enthusiasts in texas on this list as that's how i ended> up here. one of them had me going on back-channel explaining about torn> paper wall and floor treatments for hours a couple years ago ;-)> > bobL > > >

[Guest guest]

Zynergy is compatible with oleander, in fact, it's compatible with just about anything.

Even though it has replaced Cantron as the focus of interest of some of the citizen's groups in Mighigan, it does not work via the same mechanism as Cantron and Protocel.

The mechanism of Zynergy is not well understood and may be novel. If what is said about it is true, the outer shell electrons are at too high a spin rate to interact with, or interfere with other substances.

I have personally had several long converasations with people who have had amazing success with Zynergy (combining it with Megahydrate). I'm confidant these people are telling the truth.

 

Mike--- On Thu, 5/14/09, Lori Warner <loriwarner wrote:

Lori Warner <loriwarnerRe: Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionoleander soup Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 1:55 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

,

 

I've been reading here for a couple of weeks and am planning to get started on oleander as soon as I do some cleansing. I have been taking a product called Zynergy, which I am now uncertain is compatible with oleander. My understanding of Zynergy is that it was developed to help people that were/are not getting results with Protocel. But I honestly don't know if it works the same way as Protocel and would be incompatible with the same things as Protocel. I had emailed Marc and he said I could take Zynergy with the Sutherlandia OPC. But reading your post about Protocel made me uncertain. Are you aware of Zynergy and its compatibility with oleander? Zynergy is composed of Monatomic Gold and Diatomic Indium. I believe Protocel's ingredients include: Tetrahydroxyquinone , Rhodizonic Acid, Sodium, Potassium, Croconic Acid, Triquinoyl, Pyrocatechol, Leuconic Acid, mineral and trace elements including Copper.

 

Thank you for any insight you may have on compatibility of Zynegy and oleander.

 

Lori

 

--- On Wed, 5/13/09, May <luellamay129@ > wrote:

May <luellamay129@ > Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionoleander soupWednesday, May 13, 2009, 10:55 PM

 

 

 

Oh! I almost forgot your other question. The only supplement that would interfere with Oleander is Protocel. My very best to you,

 

 

 

 

 

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Hello Bob,, I was looking into buying one of the plants on ebay...I live in Michigan. Temps here run from 105 F to -40 F.. was gojng to make it a house plant.. Can be trimed to a small size, from what I have read.. Hope this helps..Cindy--- On Wed, 5/13/09, bob Larson <bobList wrote:

bob Larson <bobListRE: Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionoleander soup Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 9:54 PM

 

 

maryland. gets too cold in winter.i've just been looking for info on growing here or live plants for sale andhaving a hard time finding anything that isn't a convoluted click-thru maze.i haven't physically looked locally, or called around, yet. i need a plantbig enough to harvest by fall... i'd prefer on big enough to harvest nextweek. maybe craig's list. somebody may have one they've had in a big potfor a few years. ebay has a couple starters 2' high, gallon pot size rootball, but don't know if one or two would make a serious batch of soup in afew months.i don't know about asking nurseries around here re chem exposure, as so manypeople will tell you anything for money... depends on the whole feel of thesituation if found.in the mail i just call it home-made soup. or herbal extract. people mailMMS which is caustic if leaked, and the dried sodium chlorite is dangerouslyflammable in

contact with anything organic (burnable, carbon containing).i've mailed jelly and mason jars of CSilver, lid taped, sealed into a ziplock bag and bubble wrapped, with no problems. i tell the post office it'smineral water (true).i guess if someone has extra to share/trade i'll hear from them... ? iknow there's OSoup enthusiasts in texas on this list as that's how i endedup here. one of them had me going on back-channel explaining about tornpaper wall and floor treatments for hours a couple years ago ;-)bobL ____________ _________ _________ __oleander soup[oleander soup] On Behalf Of MayWednesday, May 13, 2009 9:09 PMoleander soup Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionHi Bob,Whereabouts do you live? Another option would be to check fororganic nurseries online. To make sure that it has not been sprayed withpesticides, just ask them.The problem with mailing the soup among members is twofold. First,it would have to be packaged properly to avoid leakage and breakage.Liquids are actually very difficult to mail. Secondly, how would youdescribe it at the post office? One must be extremely careful. Theramifications could be severe, actually affecting the

entire group. I amgoing to wait until Tony comes online and maybe he will have somesuggestions as how to handle this matter.Don't despair, there is a solution here somewhere.Warm regards,

[Guest guest]

i was just googling around and no luck so far with local nurseries. so far it looks like buying enough 2' starters on ebay to harvest in fall, which would probably be 6 or so, and i have no place to do that. might be better off going for the s-OPC. bummer. i want to be using the stuff sooner than later.

 

growing up in L.A. as a kid there was giant plants growing up to the upstairs balcony outside my front door, and i used to use the berries in my slingshot to torment passers-by in car and on foot (neighbor kids). i'm pretty sure they were oleanders... looks like karma playing catch-up ?

 

bobL

 

 

 

 

 

 

oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of MayWednesday, May 13, 2009 10:58 PMoleander soup Subject: Re: Benefits of Oleander and a question

 

Bob,

Good luck on your quest. You will find it. In the winter time you can keep the potted oleander plant inside. To make a good batch of soup you would need enough leaves to fill a shopping bag, so you can gauge the plant you are looking for by that. If you want to make the soup right away, then I would suggest getting a sizable plant.

Please let me know how you do.

Hmmmm....... "Home made soup." I like it.

Warm regards,

 

[Guest guest]

Thank you, . I didn't mean to question Marc's knowledge. I'm just very concerned about possibly using opposing treatments, so my stomach did a flip when I read your note about Protocel.

 

Thanks again,

Lori--- On Thu, 5/14/09, May <luellamay129 wrote:

May <luellamay129 Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionoleander soup Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 2:49 AM

 

 

 

Hi Lori,

Marc is extremely knowledgeable in matters as these. If he says it's okay to take it, then you can count on it without a doubt.oleander soup, Lori Warner <loriwarner@. ..> wrote:>> ,> > I've been reading here for a couple of weeks and am planning to get started on oleander as soon as I do some cleansing. I have been taking a product called Zynergy, which I am now uncertain is compatible with oleander. My understanding of Zynergy is that it was developed to help people that were/are not getting results with Protocel. But I honestly don't know if it works the same way as Protocel and would be incompatible with the same things as Protocel. I had emailed Marc and he said I could take Zynergy with the Sutherlandia OPC. But reading your post about Protocel made me uncertain. Are you aware of Zynergy and its compatibility with oleander?

Zynergy is composed of Monatomic Gold and Diatomic Indium. I believe Protocel's ingredients include: Tetrahydroxyquinone , Rhodizonic Acid, Sodium, Potassium, Croconic Acid, Triquinoyl, Pyrocatechol, Leuconic Acid, mineral and trace elements including Copper.> > Thank you for any insight you may have on compatibility of Zynegy and oleander.> > Lori> > --- On Wed, 5/13/09, May luellamay129@ ... wrote:> > > May luellamay129@ ...> Re: Benefits of Oleander and a question> oleander soup> Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 10:55 PM> > > > > > > > > > Oh! I almost forgot your other question. The only supplement that would interfere with Oleander is Protocel. My very best to you,> > >

> > > > Recent Activity> > > 19> New MembersVisit Your Group > > > > Share Photos> Put your favorite> photos and> more online.> > New web site?> Drive traffic now.> Get your business> on search.> > Weight Management Group> on > Join the challenge> and lose weight.> ..>

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Oh no Lori, I perfectly understand and I understand how you would want to exercise the utmost caution. I just wanted you to know that if Marc said it was okay, it surely was.

There are three people I have the highest regard for and trust implicitly. The first is Tony (of course), the second is Marc Swanepoel, and the third is Ben Taylor, the Owner of Utopia Silver. If any of these advise you on any subject, you can "take it to the bank."

Hugs,

oleander soup , Lori Warner <loriwarner wrote:>> Thank you, . I didn't mean to question Marc's knowledge. I'm just very concerned about possibly using opposing treatments, so my stomach did a flip when I read your note about Protocel. > > Thanks again,> Lori>

[Guest guest]

Mike, thank you! This is exactly what I have needed to hear for so many weeks now. I have been concerned about using both Zynergy and Budwig, too, since Protocel users are told not to use the FOCC mixture. I appreciate the information very much!

 

Lori--- On Thu, 5/14/09, Mike Golden <goldenmike86 wrote:

Mike Golden <goldenmike86Re: Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionoleander soup Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 3:21 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Zynergy is compatible with oleander, in fact, it's compatible with just about anything.

Even though it has replaced Cantron as the focus of interest of some of the citizen's groups in Mighigan, it does not work via the same mechanism as Cantron and Protocel.

The mechanism of Zynergy is not well understood and may be novel. If what is said about it is true, the outer shell electrons are at too high a spin rate to interact with, or interfere with other substances.

I have personally had several long converasations with people who have had amazing success with Zynergy (combining it with Megahydrate) . I'm confidant these people are telling the truth.

 

Mike--- On Thu, 5/14/09, Lori Warner <loriwarner (AT) ymail (DOT) com> wrote:

Lori Warner <loriwarner (AT) ymail (DOT) com>Re: Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionoleander soupThursday, May 14, 2009, 1:55 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

,

 

I've been reading here for a couple of weeks and am planning to get started on oleander as soon as I do some cleansing. I have been taking a product called Zynergy, which I am now uncertain is compatible with oleander. My understanding of Zynergy is that it was developed to help people that were/are not getting results with Protocel. But I honestly don't know if it works the same way as Protocel and would be incompatible with the same things as Protocel. I had emailed Marc and he said I could take Zynergy with the Sutherlandia OPC. But reading your post about Protocel made me uncertain. Are you aware of Zynergy and its compatibility with oleander? Zynergy is composed of Monatomic Gold and Diatomic Indium. I believe Protocel's ingredients include: Tetrahydroxyquinone , Rhodizonic Acid, Sodium, Potassium, Croconic Acid, Triquinoyl, Pyrocatechol, Leuconic Acid, mineral and trace elements including Copper.

 

Thank you for any insight you may have on compatibility of Zynegy and oleander.

 

Lori

 

--- On Wed, 5/13/09, May <luellamay129@ > wrote:

May <luellamay129@ > Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionoleander soupWednesday, May 13, 2009, 10:55 PM

 

 

 

Oh! I almost forgot your other question. The only supplement that would interfere with Oleander is Protocel. My very best to you,

 

 

 

 

 

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Bob,

Do you have cancer? If you do, it might be prudent to start on OPC until you can get a plant.

Get this.......... Many years ago I lived right outside Riverside County in a town named Perris and I had a couple of acres out in the dessert. I had Oleander bushes growing everywhere and had no clue. I never sprayed or did anything to them. They just thrived on their own. oleander soup , "bob Larson" <bobList wrote:>> i was just googling around and no luck so far with local nurseries. so far> it looks like buying enough 2' starters on ebay to harvest in fall, which> would probably be 6 or so, and i have no place to do that. might be better> off going for the s-OPC. bummer. i want to be using the stuff sooner than> later. > > growing up in L.A. as a kid there was giant plants growing up to the> upstairs balcony outside my front door, and i used to use the berries in my> slingshot to torment passers-by in car and on foot (neighbor kids). i'm> pretty sure they were oleanders... looks like karma playing catch-up ?> > bobL> > > > > _____ > > oleander soup oleander soup On> Behalf Of May> Wednesday, May 13, 2009 10:58 PM> oleander soup > Re: Benefits of Oleander and a question> > > > > > Bob,> > Good luck on your quest. You will find it. In the winter time you can keep> the potted oleander plant inside. To make a good batch of soup you would> need enough leaves to fill a shopping bag, so you can gauge the plant you> are looking for by that. If you want to make the soup right away, then I> would suggest getting a sizable plant. > > Please let me know how you do.> > Hmmmm....... "Home made soup." I like it.> > Warm regards,> > >

[Guest guest]

Mike, how does zynergy work as far as cancer cells go? Is this an upgrade of Protocel? Is protocel compatible with Oleander? What is your opinion of Protocel, esp. as opposed to Zynergy?

 

Your response will be greatly appreciated.

 

Lisa T.--- On Wed, 5/13/09, Mike Golden <goldenmike86 wrote:

Mike Golden <goldenmike86Re: Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionoleander soup Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 8:21 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Zynergy is compatible with oleander, in fact, it's compatible with just about anything.

Even though it has replaced Cantron as the focus of interest of some of the citizen's groups in Mighigan, it does not work via the same mechanism as Cantron and Protocel.

The mechanism of Zynergy is not well understood and may be novel. If what is said about it is true, the outer shell electrons are at too high a spin rate to interact with, or interfere with other substances.

I have personally had several long converasations with people who have had amazing success with Zynergy (combining it with Megahydrate) . I'm confidant these people are telling the truth.

 

Mike--- On Thu, 5/14/09, Lori Warner <loriwarner (AT) ymail (DOT) com> wrote:

Lori Warner <loriwarner (AT) ymail (DOT) com>Re: Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionoleander soupThursday, May 14, 2009, 1:55 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I've been reading here for a couple of weeks and am planning to get started on oleander as soon as I do some cleansing. I have been taking a product called Zynergy, which I am now uncertain is compatible with oleander. My understanding of Zynergy is that it was developed to help people that were/are not getting results with Protocel. But I honestly don't know if it works the same way as Protocel and would be incompatible with the same things as Protocel. I had emailed Marc and he said I could take Zynergy with the Sutherlandia OPC. But reading your post about Protocel made me uncertain. Are you aware of Zynergy and its compatibility with oleander? Zynergy is composed of Monatomic Gold and Diatomic Indium. I believe Protocel's ingredients include: Tetrahydroxyquinone , Rhodizonic Acid, Sodium, Potassium, Croconic Acid, Triquinoyl, Pyrocatechol, Leuconic Acid, mineral and trace elements including Copper.

 

Thank you for any insight you may have on compatibility of Zynegy and oleander.

 

Lori

 

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Oh! I almost forgot your other question. The only supplement that would interfere with Oleander is Protocel. My very best to you,

 

 

 

 

 

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yeah, me too... but i have no room for it, and to get a shopping bag of

leaves (what's needed) would strip two 6' plants naked probably.

 

 

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Hello Bob,, I was looking into buying one of the plants on ebay...I

live in Michigan. Temps here run from 105 F to -40 F.. was gojng to make it

a house plant.. Can be trimed to a small size, from what I have read.. Hope

this helps..Cindy

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Lori,

 

Have you noticed any results using the zynergy? Do you use megahydrate as

well? I was using them but did not continue because off the lack of research

that I could find regarding these products. I switched to oleander and iscador

because i needed to know more about the products i was using to save my life.

Charles Miller is a nice man but he was the only one who knew anything about it.

I am very curious as to your experience with these products. I suppose if they

are compatible with oleander i could still use them as I have alot left.

 

Thank you,

 

Nicole

 

 

 

 

 

 

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> I've been reading here for a couple of weeks and am planning to get started

on oleander as soon as I do some cleansing. I have been taking a product called

Zynergy, which I am now uncertain is compatible with oleander. My understanding

of Zynergy is that it was developed to help people that were/are not getting

results with Protocel. But I honestly don't know if it works the same way as

Protocel and would be incompatible with the same things as Protocel. I had

emailed Marc and he said I could take Zynergy with the Sutherlandia OPC. But

reading your post about Protocel made me uncertain. Are you aware of Zynergy and

its compatibility with oleander? Zynergy is composed of Monatomic Gold and

Diatomic Indium. I believe Protocel's ingredients include: Tetrahydroxyquinone,

Rhodizonic Acid, Sodium, Potassium, Croconic Acid, Triquinoyl, Pyrocatechol,

Leuconic Acid, mineral and trace elements including Copper.

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> Thank you for any insight you may have on compatibility of Zynegy and

oleander.

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> Lori

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Bob,

Oleander and Tony's Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol will help you. But you must follow it "religiously." This includes diet.

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Do as much of the protocol as you can. Frankly, I would not wait until fall to start taking Oleander. I would do it now. If you cannot find a suitable plant, I would definitely start taking OPC until a plant became available. Here is the link:

http://www.sutherlandiaopc.com.

Bless your heart Bob, what sort of stressors do you have in your life that are affecting you to this extent? And no....... I do not expect an answer to this in the forum. I do realize that life can be very difficult at times, to the point that sometimes we think it is unfair and I have had my own bouts with extreme anxiety and depression. I will say though that Sutherlandia OPC does relieve anxiety. This is one of the wonderful side effects that I discovered on starting to take this supplement for preventative measures.

I wish you my very best.

 

oleander soup , "bob Larson" <bobList wrote:>> cancer - probably, coming and going, symptoms depending on my cigar> consumption... probably lymphoma and throat. yeah, i know, gotta quit the> only thing i get any big sensory relief and pleasure in life from. but> quitting is supported by my environment/situation, which rails up with> increased stressors whenever i do, to the point of near homicide/suicide.> but i smoke lots less than i'd prefer, and keep symptoms low, at least. > > i'm looking to use the OS or OPC for both that and hep-C. i have a number> of protocols to use all together whenever i get the tobacco demon exorcised.>

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Hi Nicole,

I started Zynergy and Mega Hydrate (and the other products supplied by Charles: NAC, enzymes, minerals, Squalamax, Shark Liver Oil) on March 1. At this point I don't know how the products are working for me. I do have more pain/discomfort now but I have energy and feel otherwise fine. Maybe the discomfort is from tumors being dealt with by the Zynergy or from scar tissue from the 2 surgeries I've had. But it is possible that the cancer is progressing. This Monday I sent in my 3rd HCG urine test and also had blood work done (no results yet). I guess I will need a scan of some sort to really know what's going on in there, but I haven't decided on the timing. I'm waiting for the HCG first.

 

Just like Mike, I have spoken with people who have done well on Zynergy/MH. They are friends of friends, so I completely trust them and believe their testimonials. One of my local friends started using the products in January (or early February) and her bone pain has gone away. So she seems to be doing well.

 

The bottom line is that I am not sure whether or not Zynergy/MH are working for me. But at this point I am not giving up on them. Even so, I am going to add the oleander as soon as I have done some cleanses (colon, parasite, liver/gb), since folks here are confirming that oleander is compatible with Z/MH.

 

I'm not sure if this helps, but it is my experience so far.

 

Take care,

Lori

 

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ngilbert4787 <ngilbert4787 Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionoleander soup Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 6:01 PM

 

 

Lori,Have you noticed any results using the zynergy? Do you use megahydrate as well? I was using them but did not continue because off the lack of research that I could find regarding these products. I switched to oleander and iscador because i needed to know more about the products i was using to save my life. Charles Miller is a nice man but he was the only one who knew anything about it. I am very curious as to your experience with these products. I suppose if they are compatible with oleander i could still use them as I have alot left.Thank you,Nicoleoleander soup, Lori Warner <loriwarner@ ...> wrote:>> ,> > I've been reading here for a couple of weeks and am planning to get started on oleander as soon as I do some cleansing..

I have been taking a product called Zynergy, which I am now uncertain is compatible with oleander. My understanding of Zynergy is that it was developed to help people that were/are not getting results with Protocel. But I honestly don't know if it works the same way as Protocel and would be incompatible with the same things as Protocel. I had emailed Marc and he said I could take Zynergy with the Sutherlandia OPC. But reading your post about Protocel made me uncertain. Are you aware of Zynergy and its compatibility with oleander? Zynergy is composed of Monatomic Gold and Diatomic Indium. I believe Protocel's ingredients include: Tetrahydroxyquinone , Rhodizonic Acid, Sodium, Potassium, Croconic Acid, Triquinoyl, Pyrocatechol, Leuconic Acid, mineral and trace elements including Copper.> > Thank you for any insight you may have on compatibility of Zynegy and oleander.> > Lori> > --- On Wed,

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No one knows how Zynergy works, although there are various hypothetical explanations. It's use for cancer is based on observation. Zynergy was originally a product of the consciousness movement and was based on modern ideas about alchemy. It's connection with Protocel and Cantron is merely that a lot of the people that used to promote these two products are shifting their emphasis to Zynergy. Cantron like products are effective for, perhaps, half the people who use them. It is thought, by some, that Zynergy has higher rates of effectiveness. Some say that it is nearly 100% effective for brain tumors and about 85% effective for other types of cancers. All of this is based on testimony alone.

I, myself, don't think Protocel is incompatible with oleander. I've seen others with a different opinion.

I have no way to evaluate Protocel vs. Zynergy. They are like apples and oranges as far as I can see. Personally, I believe that people are getting well with Zynergy. I've talked to some of them. It's use in cancer is too new to say much more.

 

Mike--- On Thu, 5/14/09, Lisa Tovar <tov_legsec wrote:

Lisa Tovar <tov_legsecRe: Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionoleander soup Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 4:52 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mike, how does zynergy work as far as cancer cells go? Is this an upgrade of Protocel? Is protocel compatible with Oleander? What is your opinion of Protocel, esp. as opposed to Zynergy?

 

Your response will be greatly appreciated.

 

Lisa T.--- On Wed, 5/13/09, Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ > wrote:

Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ >Re: Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionoleander soupWednesday, May 13, 2009, 8:21 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Zynergy is compatible with oleander, in fact, it's compatible with just about anything.

Even though it has replaced Cantron as the focus of interest of some of the citizen's groups in Mighigan, it does not work via the same mechanism as Cantron and Protocel.

The mechanism of Zynergy is not well understood and may be novel. If what is said about it is true, the outer shell electrons are at too high a spin rate to interact with, or interfere with other substances.

I have personally had several long converasations with people who have had amazing success with Zynergy (combining it with Megahydrate) . I'm confidant these people are telling the truth.

 

Mike--- On Thu, 5/14/09, Lori Warner <loriwarner (AT) ymail (DOT) com> wrote:

Lori Warner <loriwarner (AT) ymail (DOT) com>Re: Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionoleander soupThursday, May 14, 2009, 1:55 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

,

 

I've been reading here for a couple of weeks and am planning to get started on oleander as soon as I do some cleansing. I have been taking a product called Zynergy, which I am now uncertain is compatible with oleander. My understanding of Zynergy is that it was developed to help people that were/are not getting results with Protocel. But I honestly don't know if it works the same way as Protocel and would be incompatible with the same things as Protocel. I had emailed Marc and he said I could take Zynergy with the Sutherlandia OPC. But reading your post about Protocel made me uncertain. Are you aware of Zynergy and its compatibility with oleander? Zynergy is composed of Monatomic Gold and Diatomic Indium. I believe Protocel's ingredients include: Tetrahydroxyquinone , Rhodizonic Acid, Sodium, Potassium, Croconic Acid, Triquinoyl, Pyrocatechol, Leuconic Acid, mineral and trace elements including Copper.

 

Thank you for any insight you may have on compatibility of Zynegy and oleander.

 

Lori

 

--- On Wed, 5/13/09, May <luellamay129@ > wrote:

May <luellamay129@ > Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionoleander soupWednesday, May 13, 2009, 10:55 PM

 

 

 

Oh! I almost forgot your other question. The only supplement that would interfere with Oleander is Protocel. My very best to you,

 

 

 

 

 

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The one caveat is that the Megahydrate is not compatible with Budwig due to it being a powerful (claimed) antioxidant.

 

Mike--- On Thu, 5/14/09, Lori Warner <loriwarner wrote:

Lori Warner <loriwarnerRe: Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionoleander soup Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 3:05 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mike, thank you! This is exactly what I have needed to hear for so many weeks now. I have been concerned about using both Zynergy and Budwig, too, since Protocel users are told not to use the FOCC mixture. I appreciate the information very much!

 

Lori--- On Thu, 5/14/09, Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ > wrote:

Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ >Re: Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionoleander soupThursday, May 14, 2009, 3:21 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Zynergy is compatible with oleander, in fact, it's compatible with just about anything.

Even though it has replaced Cantron as the focus of interest of some of the citizen's groups in Mighigan, it does not work via the same mechanism as Cantron and Protocel.

The mechanism of Zynergy is not well understood and may be novel. If what is said about it is true, the outer shell electrons are at too high a spin rate to interact with, or interfere with other substances.

I have personally had several long converasations with people who have had amazing success with Zynergy (combining it with Megahydrate) . I'm confidant these people are telling the truth.

 

Mike--- On Thu, 5/14/09, Lori Warner <loriwarner (AT) ymail (DOT) com> wrote:

Lori Warner <loriwarner (AT) ymail (DOT) com>Re: Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionoleander soupThursday, May 14, 2009, 1:55 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

,

 

I've been reading here for a couple of weeks and am planning to get started on oleander as soon as I do some cleansing. I have been taking a product called Zynergy, which I am now uncertain is compatible with oleander. My understanding of Zynergy is that it was developed to help people that were/are not getting results with Protocel. But I honestly don't know if it works the same way as Protocel and would be incompatible with the same things as Protocel. I had emailed Marc and he said I could take Zynergy with the Sutherlandia OPC. But reading your post about Protocel made me uncertain. Are you aware of Zynergy and its compatibility with oleander? Zynergy is composed of Monatomic Gold and Diatomic Indium. I believe Protocel's ingredients include: Tetrahydroxyquinone , Rhodizonic Acid, Sodium, Potassium, Croconic Acid, Triquinoyl, Pyrocatechol, Leuconic Acid, mineral and trace elements including Copper.

 

Thank you for any insight you may have on compatibility of Zynegy and oleander.

 

Lori

 

--- On Wed, 5/13/09, May <luellamay129@ > wrote:

May <luellamay129@ > Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionoleander soupWednesday, May 13, 2009, 10:55 PM

 

 

 

Oh! I almost forgot your other question. The only supplement that would interfere with Oleander is Protocel. My very best to you,

 

 

 

 

 

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Lori,

 

I appreciate your response and I did find it helpful. Based on what you and

Mike said, I am seriously thinking of adding the zynergy back to my protocol.

At the time, Icould find no one to give me info on it. Did he speak to you at

all about MMS. He sent that to me too but I have been scared to use it. Does

anyone have any experience using this product?