Benefits of Oleander and a question

May 15, 2009

Hi there,

Yes, I did use the MMS for 14 days as suggested ... increasing by 1 drop each day. I have also taken a 6-drop maintenance dose a couple of times but need to get another bottle of the "First Elements" (same as Mega Hydrate, but without vitamin C) from Charles in order to keep using MMS 2X per week. According to Charles, vitamin C stops the action of the MMS, so I also skip my multi and other vitamin C's when I use the MMS. My friend also takes MMS, as does her family. She reports a significant decrease in seasonal allergies. I felt absolutely no reaction to it, so once again I don't know if it is doing anything for me. But I don't feel that it has hurt, so will probably continue once I get the First Elements.

Lori--- On Fri, 5/15/09, ngilbert4787 <ngilbert4787 wrote:

ngilbert4787 <ngilbert4787 Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionoleander soup Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 1:18 PM

Lori,I appreciate your response and I did find it helpful. Based on what you and Mike said, I am seriously thinking of adding the zynergy back to my protocol. At the time, Icould find no one to give me info on it. Did he speak to you at all about MMS. He sent that to me too but I have been scared to use it. Does anyone have any experience using this product?

May 15, 2009

I just wanted to add that unless it was shipped via UPS, it will be exposed to radiation. The USPS x-rays their packages and any medicines traveling this way will have "interference".Lyne May <luellamay129oleander soup Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 7:39:16 PM Re: Benefits of Oleander and a question

Hi Bob,

Try looking for an oleander plant through organic nurseries. This may be your best bet. I believe Tony is against mailing Oleander Soup between members because of the FDA ramifications.

Even when getting the plant from an organic nursery, make sure that it has not been sprayed with insecticides.

Hope this helps.

Warm regards,

oleander soup, "bob Larson" <bobList wrote:>> a shipment of oleander from where? do you mean the sutherlandia OPC or> oleander made into soup from someone more affordably, or a bush?> > i don't know where to find live oleander around here (maryland) in the wild> that i can trust isn't full of chem spray if it even grows around here at> all. can't afford the OPC product. would love to hook up with some soup> made by someone who does a good job where the bush is plentiful.> > meanwhile my hep-C cruises along, not bad but not good if i back off on my> CSilver (which i'm trying to find an affordable way to do).> > > bobL >

May 15, 2009

is there a good link to order the zynergy? Please!!--- On Fri, 5/15/09, Lori Warner <loriwarner wrote:

Lori Warner <loriwarnerRe: Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionoleander soup Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 7:49 AM

Hi there,

Yes, I did use the MMS for 14 days as suggested ... increasing by 1 drop each day. I have also taken a 6-drop maintenance dose a couple of times but need to get another bottle of the "First Elements" (same as Mega Hydrate, but without vitamin C) from Charles in order to keep using MMS 2X per week. According to Charles, vitamin C stops the action of the MMS, so I also skip my multi and other vitamin C's when I use the MMS. My friend also takes MMS, as does her family. She reports a significant decrease in seasonal allergies. I felt absolutely no reaction to it, so once again I don't know if it is doing anything for me. But I don't feel that it has hurt, so will probably continue once I get the First Elements.

Lori--- On Fri, 5/15/09, ngilbert4787 <ngilbert4787@ > wrote:

ngilbert4787 <ngilbert4787@ > Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionoleander soupFriday, May 15, 2009, 1:18 PM

Lori,I appreciate your response and I did find it helpful. Based on what you and Mike said, I am seriously thinking of adding the zynergy back to my protocol. At the time, Icould find no one to give me info on it. Did he speak to you at all about MMS. He sent that to me too but I have been scared to use it. Does anyone have any experience using this product?

May 15, 2009

I believe there is a website that sells Zynergy but all of the folks I know get it through Charles Miller for a better price (and the other supplements that are recommended). Below is the information that was originally sent to me. Note that although it says that the items listed will last for 2 months, I have found that 1 bottle of Zynergy lasts for 6 weeks. You may already be taking a NAC product and/or enzymes as part of your oleander protocol, so you can order just the items that you need. If you plan to take MMS (which Charles also supplies), you'll want "First elements" instead of MegaHydrate. I would recommend calling Charles before sending in your order.

Charles Miller

517-676-9152

Zynergy and Mega Hydrate work together to help the immune system shut down cancer cells. Enzyme Formula removes the protective protein cover of cancer cells which enables the immune system to recognize the cancer cells as an enemy to be attacked. NAC helps shut down the side effects of chemotherapy and radiation treatments. Trace Minerals enhance the effectiveness of Zynergy and Mega Hydrate and assist in rebuilding the immune system. In my seven years experience working with various alternative cancer treatments, the following five supplements have the highest success in assisting a person's immune system in defeating cancer.

The supplements listed will last two months.

$ 75 Zynergy - 2 oz. bottle

$100 Mega Hydrate - 4 bottles

$ 15 Enzyme Formula - 1 bottle

$ 14 NAC - 2 bottles

$ 20 Trace Minerals - 1 Jar of powder mixed with a gallon of water

$ 12 Shipping and handling.

$236 TOTAL

If you decide to order some of these supplements send a check or money order to:

Charles Miller

2805 Rolfe Rd.

Mason, MI 48854

--- On Fri, 5/15/09, Lisa Tovar <tov_legsec wrote:

Lisa Tovar <tov_legsecRe: Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionoleander soup Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 3:57 PM

is there a good link to order the zynergy? Please!!--- On Fri, 5/15/09, Lori Warner <loriwarner (AT) ymail (DOT) com> wrote:

Lori Warner <loriwarner (AT) ymail (DOT) com>Re: Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionoleander soupFriday, May 15, 2009, 7:49 AM

Hi there,

Yes, I did use the MMS for 14 days as suggested ... increasing by 1 drop each day. I have also taken a 6-drop maintenance dose a couple of times but need to get another bottle of the "First Elements" (same as Mega Hydrate, but without vitamin C) from Charles in order to keep using MMS 2X per week. According to Charles, vitamin C stops the action of the MMS, so I also skip my multi and other vitamin C's when I use the MMS. My friend also takes MMS, as does her family. She reports a significant decrease in seasonal allergies. I felt absolutely no reaction to it, so once again I don't know if it is doing anything for me. But I don't feel that it has hurt, so will probably continue once I get the First Elements.

Lori

May 15, 2009

Mike can you pls tell me the reason of taking Zynergy with Megahydrate??Thanks a lotEfi--- Óôéò Ðáñ., 15/05/09, ï/ç Mike Golden <goldenmike86 Ýãñáøå:Áðü: Mike Golden <goldenmike86ÈÝìá: Re: Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionÐñïò: oleander soup Çìåñïìçíßá: ÐáñáóêåõÞ, 15 ÌÜéïò 2009, 10:02

No one knows how Zynergy works, although there are various hypothetical explanations. It's use for cancer is based on observation. Zynergy was originally a product of the consciousness movement and was based on modern ideas about alchemy. It's connection with Protocel and Cantron is merely that a lot of the people that used to promote these two products are shifting their emphasis to Zynergy. Cantron like products are effective for, perhaps, half the people who use them. It is thought, by some, that Zynergy has higher rates of effectiveness. Some say that it is nearly 100% effective for brain tumors and about 85% effective

for other types of cancers. All of this is based on testimony alone.

I, myself, don't think Protocel is incompatible with oleander. I've seen others with a different opinion.

I have no way to evaluate Protocel vs. Zynergy. They are like apples and oranges as far as I can see. Personally, I believe that people are getting well with Zynergy. I've talked to some of them. It's use in cancer is too new to say much more.

Mike--- On Thu, 5/14/09, Lisa Tovar <tov_legsec > wrote:

Lisa Tovar <tov_legsec >Re: Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionoleander soupThursday, May 14, 2009, 4:52 PM

Mike, how does zynergy work as far as cancer cells go? Is this an upgrade of Protocel? Is protocel compatible with Oleander? What is your opinion of Protocel, esp. as opposed to Zynergy?

Your response will be greatly appreciated.

Lisa T.--- On Wed, 5/13/09, Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ > wrote:

Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ >Re: Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionoleander soupWednesday, May 13, 2009, 8:21 PM

Zynergy is compatible with oleander, in fact, it's compatible with just about anything.

Even though it has replaced Cantron as the focus of interest of some of the citizen's groups in Mighigan, it does not work via the same mechanism as Cantron and Protocel.

The mechanism of Zynergy is not well understood and may be novel. If what is said about it is true, the outer shell electrons are at too high a spin rate to interact with, or interfere with other substances.

I have personally had several long converasations with people who have had amazing success with Zynergy (combining it with Megahydrate) . I'm confidant these people are telling the truth.

Mike--- On Thu, 5/14/09, Lori Warner <loriwarner (AT) ymail (DOT) com> wrote:

Lori Warner <loriwarner (AT) ymail (DOT) com>Re: Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionoleander soupThursday, May 14, 2009, 1:55 AM

,

I've been reading here for a couple of weeks and am planning to get started on oleander as soon as I do some cleansing. I have been taking a product called Zynergy, which I am now uncertain is compatible with oleander. My understanding of Zynergy is that it was developed to help people that were/are not getting results with Protocel. But I honestly don't know if it works the same way as Protocel and would be incompatible with the same things as Protocel. I had emailed Marc and he said I could take Zynergy with the Sutherlandia OPC. But reading your post about Protocel made me uncertain. Are you aware of Zynergy and its compatibility with oleander? Zynergy is composed of Monatomic Gold and Diatomic Indium. I believe Protocel's ingredients include: Tetrahydroxyquinone , Rhodizonic Acid, Sodium, Potassium, Croconic Acid, Triquinoyl, Pyrocatechol, Leuconic Acid, mineral and trace elements including Copper.

Thank you for any insight you may have on compatibility of Zynegy and oleander.

Lori

--- On Wed, 5/13/09, May <luellamay129@ > wrote:

May <luellamay129@ > Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionoleander soupWednesday, May 13, 2009, 10:55 PM

Oh! I almost forgot your other question. The only supplement that would interfere with Oleander is Protocel. My very best to you,

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Keep in mind that neither product was intended to be a cancer remedy, As I pointed out, Zynergy was intended to raise consciousness, Megahydrate is the latest incarnation of Patrick Flannagan's rehydration supplement. It seems that people using both started to observe results against cancer.

Megahydrate is supposed to decrease the surface tension of water and allow it to penetrate into physiological spaces more easily helping to distribute Zynergy. It has also been claimed that the silica crytal in Megahydrate picks up the vibrational energy of the M-state metals in Zynergy and keeps the influence on the cells going longer. Megahydrate has a longer half-life than Zynergy. This, they say, allows the user to be able to sleep through the night without having to wake up and take Zynergy. That was one of the problems with Cantron and Protocel, waking up at night.

I'd like to point out that the science behind these products is definately not mainstream. They are a bit of a leap of faith for someone like myself. However, they seem to be working for people. They are easy to take and are unlikely to cause side effects or to interfere with most other approaches.

Mike--- On Fri, 5/15/09, efi noname <empasi_home wrote:

efi noname <empasi_homeRe: Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionoleander soup Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 6:30 PM

Mike can you pls tell me the reason of taking Zynergy with Megahydrate? ?Thanks a lotEfi--- Î£Ï„Î¹Ï‚ Î Î±Ï., 15/05/09, Î¿/Î· Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ > ÎÎ³ÏÎ±ÏˆÎµ:

Î‘Ï€ÏŒ: Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ >Î˜ÎÎ¼Î±: Re: Re: Benefits of Oleander and a questionÎ ÏÎ¿Ï‚: oleander soupÎ—Î¼ÎµÏÎ¿Î¼Î·Î½Î¯Î±: Î Î±ÏÎ±ÏƒÎºÎµÏ…Î®, 15 ÎœÎ¬Î¹Î¿Ï‚ 2009, 10:02

No one knows how Zynergy works, although there are various hypothetical explanations. It's use for cancer is based on observation. Zynergy was originally a product of the consciousness movement and was based on modern ideas about alchemy. It's connection with Protocel and Cantron is merely that a lot of the people that used to promote these two products are shifting their emphasis to Zynergy. Cantron like products are effective for, perhaps, half the people who use them. It is thought, by some, that Zynergy has higher rates of effectiveness. Some say that it is nearly 100% effective for brain tumors and about 85% effective for other types of cancers. All of this is based on testimony alone.