Guest guest Posted April 4, 2004 Report Share Posted April 4, 2004 Hi Karen, I am sorry I could not write this sooner, but I have been/am having major computer problems (borrowing one today to write). I wanted to be sure to mention to you that to get the benefit of cherry juice it is probably necessary to use a product which is not shelf stable. The products I am using are concentrates which must be refrigerated for shorter term storage or frozen for longer term storage. I mentioned this in a note to Victoria, but felt I should repeat it here in case you did not see it in this prior discussion. I found the cherry juice in a circuitous route via Dr. Mercola's web site. He was touting the use of blueberry juice from this company. Finding the name of the company there I then got on that company's web site and found the cherry juice as well. I am very happy so far with the results of using it. I think over time it will be very cleansing, if not a total cure. I expect you can find the company in the same way (I hesitate to put it down here for fear someone might think I am selling this juice (I am not). Still if you have trouble locating it I would e-mail you privately. I have not found anyone else who sells this type of cherry juice. Supposedly their process retains more of the vital nutrients found in these juices because they are not subjected to the higher prolonged heat of canning. Most stores sell the shelf stable products. There are many other ways of treating cold syndromes besides using T4 (or even thyroid medication as many have adrenal imbalances or both problems at the same time). As I can say from personal experience using T3 alone for my initial thyroid problems over ten years ago (this is yet another protocol, the Wilson's thyroid syndrome protocol--also on the Internet at http:www.wilsonsthyroidsyndrome.com) elevated my temperatures from the basement. I do not buy Wilson's assertion that just resetting body temperatures will make the patient healthy and free of the need for further thyroid medication. Maybe that works for some, but probably not all. Still Wilson (who was my doctor before getting into a mess with the FL medical board) started the current medical discussion of the need for some patients to use T3 alone or in combinationwith T4. Not everyone can use the same thyroid medication to the greatest effect. What is interesting and which I neglected to mention before is that Dr. St. Amand equates body cold and excessive fatigue to the build up of minerals in the body, so perhaps cleaning out some of this stuff will help elevate body temperatures by freeing the endocrine organs to function better. Who knows? In my own case T3 seemed to clear up many of my symptoms. I still wonder if for the simple reason I do not convert T4 to T3 efficiently in my body tissues that I still may not get enough active T3 in my system, at least at times. Also if the body is too cold enzyme systems in the body do not work at optimal levels. St. Amand says that patients lack an enzyme in the kidneys to excrete the proper amount of phosphates. Well, maybe if the body temperature is elevated to more normal levels the enzymes will function as they should. Certainly I found when I was on straight T3 many of the small lumps I have here and there under the skin disappeared. The questions raised by the different theories warrant further investigation IMO. I think that maybe I am not on quite enough T3 (maybe I should add a small amount of the T3 to the natural thyroid medication which also has some T3) and yet in many ways I feel better on the natural thyroid hormone I take now rather than the straight T3 medication I used to take. Still there are times my body does not maintain an adequate body temperature and this is when I become most fatigued and of course cold. The body is such a delicate balancing act, as TCM shows us in depth. Best wishes, Sarah In a message dated 4/2/04 7:26:07 AM, Chinese Traditional Medicine writes: > Thu, 01 Apr 2004 14:31:29 -0800 > Karen Peterson <kpeterha > Re: Re: Immune System Imbalance? > > Sarah, > > Thank you for all the information. I had heard of the St. Amand book > before and will look for it on Amazon. I was > also going to look for the cherry juice at Henry's, my local health food > store. > > I currently take levoxyl for thyroid replacement therapy and usually > fall asleep with the electric blanket on, mostly > because I cannot regulate my body temperature and cannot fall asleep if > I am cold or hungry. I will check out the > Dr Lowe's web site. I had heard about it on the interstitial cystitis > group that I belong to on . > > Karen P. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 Sarah, I did come across the web site that sells the cherry and blueberry juice. They also sell it in capsule form, so it is very easy to take with you anywhere. I am not very confident that my hypothyroidism is being treated fully. I only take 0.075 mg of Levoxyl. I've read of other FMS people taking 50 and 60 mg. My mother has no thyroid function and takes one grain, which equates to approximately 600 mg. I've had blood tests for thyroid, but don't know exactly what they are testing. I've heard that there are several different tests that should be done, but most physicians only do the standard tests. I will ask my practitioner about the cherry juice. I started drinking some from Henry's. It's made by L & A, has no added sugar, preservatives, etc. It makes my bladder feel better and seems to be a good antioxidant. I am currently using a TENS unit for the knots in my shoulder. It is a rental that my insurance is paying for for one month. It really is great to be able to use this at home. When the rental is up I think I might buy one to continue this kind of therapy. Karen P. bonmotSarah wrote: > Hi Karen, > > I am sorry I could not write this sooner, but I have been/am having major > computer problems (borrowing one today to write). I wanted to be > sure to > mention to you that to get the benefit of cherry juice it is probably > necessary to > use a product which is not shelf stable. The products I am using are > concentrates which must be refrigerated for shorter term storage or > frozen for longer > term storage. I mentioned this in a note to Victoria, but felt I should > repeat it here in case you did not see it in this prior > discussion. I found > the cherry juice in a circuitous route via Dr. Mercola's web site. > He was > touting the use of blueberry juice from this company. Finding the > name of the > company there I then got on that company's web site and found the > cherry juice > as well. I am very happy so far with the results of using it. I > think over > time it will be very cleansing, if not a total cure. I expect you > can find > the company in the same way (I hesitate to put it down here for fear > someone > might think I am selling this juice (I am not). Still if you have > trouble > locating it I would e-mail you privately. I have not found anyone > else who > sells this type of cherry juice. Supposedly their process retains > more of the > vital nutrients found in these juices because they are not subjected > to the > higher prolonged heat of canning. Most stores sell the shelf stable > products. > > There are many other ways of treating cold syndromes besides using T4 (or > even thyroid medication as many have adrenal imbalances or both > problems at the > same time). As I can say from personal experience using T3 alone for my > initial thyroid problems over ten years ago (this is yet another > protocol, the > Wilson's thyroid syndrome protocol--also on the Internet at > http:www.wilsonsthyroidsyndrome.com) elevated my temperatures from the > basement. I do not buy Wilson's assertion that just resetting body > temperatures > will make the patient healthy and free of the need for further thyroid > medication. Maybe that works for some, but probably not all. Still > Wilson (who was > my doctor before getting into a mess with the FL medical board) > started the > current medical discussion of the need for some patients to use T3 > alone or in > combinationwith T4. Not everyone can use the same thyroid > medication to the > greatest effect. What is interesting and which I neglected to mention > before is that Dr. St. Amand equates body cold and excessive fatigue > to the build > up of minerals in the body, so perhaps cleaning out some of this stuff > will > help elevate body temperatures by freeing the endocrine organs to > function > better. Who knows? > > In my own case T3 seemed to clear up many of my symptoms. I still > wonder if > for the simple reason I do not convert T4 to T3 efficiently in my body > tissues that I still may not get enough active T3 in my system, at > least at times. > Also if the body is too cold enzyme systems in the body do not work at > optimal levels. St. Amand says that patients lack an enzyme in the > kidneys to > excrete the proper amount of phosphates. Well, maybe if the body > temperature is > elevated to more normal levels the enzymes will function as they > should. > Certainly I found when I was on straight T3 many of the small lumps I > have here > and there under the skin disappeared. The questions raised by the > different > theories warrant further investigation IMO. I think that maybe I am > not on > quite enough T3 (maybe I should add a small amount of the T3 to the > natural > thyroid medication which also has some T3) and yet in many ways I feel > better on > the natural thyroid hormone I take now rather than the straight T3 > medication > I used to take. Still there are times my body does not maintain an > adequate > body temperature and this is when I become most fatigued and of course > cold. > The body is such a delicate balancing act, as TCM shows us in depth. > > Best wishes, > > Sarah > > In a message dated 4/2/04 7:26:07 AM, Chinese Traditional Medicine > writes: > > > > Thu, 01 Apr 2004 14:31:29 -0800 > > Karen Peterson <kpeterha > > Re: Re: Immune System Imbalance? > > > > Sarah, > > > > Thank you for all the information. I had heard of the St. Amand book > > before and will look for it on Amazon. I was > > also going to look for the cherry juice at Henry's, my local health food > > store. > > > > I currently take levoxyl for thyroid replacement therapy and usually > > fall asleep with the electric blanket on, mostly > > because I cannot regulate my body temperature and cannot fall asleep if > > I am cold or hungry. I will check out the > > Dr Lowe's web site. I had heard about it on the interstitial cystitis > > group that I belong to on . > > > > Karen P. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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