Magnesium Deficiency Causes?

[Guest guest]

Anyone under stress might need extra magnesium and potassium to help

to relax the muscles and give a little relief from the constant

assult on the sympathetic nervous system. Aspartates are a good form

for both minerals. In these cases calcium is probably not as

important as mag/pot. There are many common formulas that have

magnesium potassium in combination - if there are anxiety or heart

symptoms then take a formula with mag/pot aspartates and Taurine will

be helpful. Mag/pot - taurine combinations are widely used in many

disease processes involving the nervous system (SNS)and the heart.

 

Anyone suffering from FM should read Bob Flaws' paper at his site

www.bluepoppy.com on the subject. He has a book on the subject but

you can read several very interesting papers for free at his site as

well. In ancient theory these types of diseases are caused by 'cold

damage' and 'yin fire'. Both of these concepts are not well

understood by many western practioners but in my opinion this is the

real answer to many complicated disease syndromes - like CFS and FM.

For years I have been trying to encourage people to look at their CFS

and FM as hypometabolic disorers.

 

Li Dong-yuan of the Jin-yuan dynasty - first described the concept of

yin fire - this is not the same as yang vacuity or heat vacuity - and

he was not refering to digestive disorders per se - he was refering

to a whole catagory of allergic and autoimmune diseases that have

mixed hot and cold symptoms. These type of complicated disease

patterns are very common in modern people.

 

There are several medicines that are very useful for these types of

cases. Master Li himself developed many formulas for dealing with

these mixed symptom pictures. Some of these medicines are among the

most popular medicines in the world today - for obvious reasons. In

Asia millions of people take these medicines daily to help them deal

with the modern society which naturally creates mixed hot and cold

symptoms.

 

Three of these medicines should be understood by we modern people.

Since the most common pattern seen in these cases is spleen/liver

disharmony - most medicines dealing with yin fire disease harmonize

the spleen and liver. Bob Flaws says that these patterns are the most

important in yin fire - " These are spleen qi vacuity, liver

depression/depressive heat, damp heat, yin and blood vacuity with

vacuity heat, and stirring of ministerial fire. "

 

The three medicines are -

 

Xiao Chai Hu Tang - Minor Bupleurum

 

Bu Zhong Yi Qi Tang - Central Qi Pill

 

Ban Xia Xie Xin Tang - Pinellia drain the Heart Decoction

 

Used singly or in combination according to the case these are

powerful medicines for balancing the spleen/liver disharmony.

 

One has seen many cases tremendously benefited by these medicines.

The combination of thyroid supplementation, mild diet, and yin fire

controling medicines will begin resolution of many hypometabolic

diseases. Thyroid of course can only be prescribed by an expert in

endocrine functioning. Dr. Denis Wilson (Wilson Syndrome)has a simple

Thyroid support formula that will work synergestically with

spleen/liver harmonizing herbs. The link for his site and that

formula (based on Guggul)- is -

 

http://www.wilsonssyndrome.com/Products/ThyroCare.htm

 

Many cases of CFS and FM are suffering from the syndrome that doctor

Wilson described that is now called Wilson Syndrome. This syndrome is

hypometabolism with chronic low temperature - in the absence of

abnormal thyroid tests. Understanding chronic low body temperature

and yin fire disease will give great insight into ones cold damage

disorder. If one is not sure if they have chronic low temps - then

take it - for three days and average the result - if early morning

temps average below 97.7 and if they average below 98.2 in the

afternoon - then one has hypometabolism. In CFS and FM patients the

temps can average as low as the mid 95's - but temps that average in

the mid 96's will have a multitude of complicated life limiting

symptoms.

 

 

 

 

Chinese Traditional Medicine , Karen Peterson <kpeterha@p...>

wrote:

>

> Victoria,

>

> I take an extra 300 mg per day of Magnesium Asporotates for my

> fibromyalgia and migraine prevention. I have the insomnia, muscle

> spasms and muscles that stay too contracted (tense) and am very

> sensitive to pain. I used to sweat a lot before starting

acupuncture

> and chinese herbs, but I still have much pelvic pain ( interstitial

> cystitis, endometriosis, and pelvic floor disorder ), and neck,

> shoulder, rib, low back, mid-back, and hip pain.

>

[Guest guest]

Chinese Traditional Medicine , vinod3x3 wrote:

> Many cases of CFS and FM are suffering from the syndrome that

doctor

> Wilson described that is now called Wilson Syndrome. This syndrome

is

> hypometabolism with chronic low temperature - in the absence of

> abnormal thyroid tests. Understanding chronic low body temperature

> and yin fire disease will give great insight into ones cold damage

> disorder. If one is not sure if they have chronic low temps - then

> take it - for three days and average the result - if early morning

> temps average below 97.7 and if they average below 98.2 in the

> afternoon - then one has hypometabolism. In CFS and FM patients

the

> temps can average as low as the mid 95's - but temps that average

in

> the mid 96's will have a multitude of complicated life limiting

> symptoms.

 

In my case (don't know about others) the lower my body temperature

was, the sicker I was. The two happened together. I'm purposely

avoiding language that one caused the other because I don't know

that there is a cause-effect influence of one on the other. I just

know they happened at the same time.

 

When I was very sick, I was getting readings in the 96 F range. I

also came to dread pains in my left side because that too signaled

that I was getting sicker. My making that comment to my doctor was

what caused her to order a monospot test. It came back " exposure

within the past 6 months. " It continued to show that result for the

next two years. The Epstein Barr titer test revealed the pattern for

chronic mononucleosis. (The mono test that reveals " exposure within

the past 6 months " is more instructive than the ones that give a

straight " positive " or " negative " .)

 

Back when this was happening, I didn't know anything about TCM. What

helped was a lot of rest and some very high dosages of vitamins and

minerals. Digestive enzymes also helped a lot. I also meditated and

used visualization. Echinacea helped. It took a couple of years, but

I did improve to the point where I felt considerably better. After

this point was reached, the monospot tests started coming back

negative.

 

I improved as much as I could with the supplements. I took another

big step up when I saw a TCM herbalist. I was hoping for just some

slight improvement. I got a whole lot more, and it started showing

up in 3 weeks. I'm not cured, but the more I learn and the longer I

stay on TCM treatment, the more I improve. Every time I slack off

treatment, I start to have problems. And treatment needs change over

time.

 

I came down with CFIDS in the early 1970s 6 months after gall

bladder surgery. (It's now known that histamine-releasing

anesthesias can trigger CFIDS in susceptible individuals. The CFIDS

Association of America has a list of which anesthesias are safer and

which are apt to trigger problems in people at risk for developing

CFIDS or who already have it.) Back then it didn't have a name. That

was still 10 years in the future. I lucked up in that I had an old

country doctor who even though he didn't know what I had used his

training and his powers of analysis to figure out things that would

help. Some of what he tried me on and which helped (like the B12

injections) are recognized today as helping many people with CFIDS.

 

I am one of a subset of PWCs (People With CFIDS)who does have a

history of recurring bouts of mononucleosis. (I suspect that there

may be more but doctors haven't thought to check for it. Part of

the reason is because at least as late as the late 1980s it was

widely believed that children didn't get mono, once you had it you

never got it again, and people over a certain age didn't get it.

The reason I got diagnosed as often as I did probably was because

for a large part of my life I have either been in school or using

military medicine. The two environments where doctors see a lot of

cases of mono and where monospot tests are ordered more routinely

than in other settings.

 

I have a history of on-again, off-again thyroid problems.

Hypothyroidism in every case except one time when I was

hyperthyroid. Here's another interesting correlation. Every time

that I have had mono or a mono-like illiness in my life, I have also

had thyroid problems. I'm not talking about just the sumptoms of

hypothyroidism but verifiable lab tests that thyroid function was

low. Thyroid supplementation helped many of the symptoms, but still

left a lot to be desired. TCM helped what thyroid supplementation

couldn't.

 

Over the years I repeatedly have noticed another pattern. Often

after I start to improve (and am more active), I reach a crisis

point. I start to have more problems with allergies and allergy-

like reactions, and I start a downward spiral again. What has

stopped this every time has been the combination of thyroid

supplementation and prednisone. After so many times I discovered

that lower than normal dosages of both for a very short period of

time is enough to reverse the downward spiral. A few years ago I

read about some doctors starting to consider this combination in

treating some CFIDS patients, so evidently I'm not the only person

to have noticed this over the years.

 

From a TCM standpoint I have a lot of problems with cold and with

wind. Though I'm greatly improved from what I was, I still am

vulnerable to cold and wind in the environment. I do worse in winter

than in summer. As temperatures rise, so does my energy. (At least

until it gets too hot in the summer.) As temperatures rise, my

muscles also get more flexable. (For readers new to TCM, the concept

of Wind includes not only the wind but changes in barometric

pressure and changes in ion concentrations.)

[Guest guest]

Hi,Victoria,

This is exactly what I have be diagnosed with, and have. My morning body

temp is 95.7.

It took 1 year for western medicial doctors to finally find it. And

total cost for me missing work

and sickness and doctor costs about $6000.00.

Now getting treated with both western and eastern medication ie Vitamin

IV drip and Herbs plus acupuncture.

Thanks,

Tedd

PS this hit me so bad I almost took my life to end it.

 

victoria_dragon wrote:

 

>

>

> Chinese Traditional Medicine , vinod3x3 wrote:

> > Many cases of CFS and FM are suffering from the syndrome that

> doctor

> > Wilson described that is now called Wilson Syndrome. This syndrome

> is

> > hypometabolism with chronic low temperature - in the absence of

> > abnormal thyroid tests. Understanding chronic low body temperature

> > and yin fire disease will give great insight into ones cold damage

> > disorder. If one is not sure if they have chronic low temps - then

> > take it - for three days and average the result - if early morning

> > temps average below 97.7 and if they average below 98.2 in the

> > afternoon - then one has hypometabolism. In CFS and FM patients

> the

> > temps can average as low as the mid 95's - but temps that average

> in

> > the mid 96's will have a multitude of complicated life limiting

> > symptoms.

>

> In my case (don't know about others) the lower my body temperature

> was, the sicker I was. The two happened together. I'm purposely

> avoiding language that one caused the other because I don't know

> that there is a cause-effect influence of one on the other. I just

> know they happened at the same time.

>

> When I was very sick, I was getting readings in the 96 F range. I

> also came to dread pains in my left side because that too signaled

> that I was getting sicker. My making that comment to my doctor was

> what caused her to order a monospot test. It came back " exposure

> within the past 6 months. " It continued to show that result for the

> next two years. The Epstein Barr titer test revealed the pattern for

> chronic mononucleosis. (The mono test that reveals " exposure within

> the past 6 months " is more instructive than the ones that give a

> straight " positive " or " negative " .)

>

> Back when this was happening, I didn't know anything about TCM. What

> helped was a lot of rest and some very high dosages of vitamins and

> minerals. Digestive enzymes also helped a lot. I also meditated and

> used visualization. Echinacea helped. It took a couple of years, but

> I did improve to the point where I felt considerably better. After

> this point was reached, the monospot tests started coming back

> negative.

>

> I improved as much as I could with the supplements. I took another

> big step up when I saw a TCM herbalist. I was hoping for just some

> slight improvement. I got a whole lot more, and it started showing

> up in 3 weeks. I'm not cured, but the more I learn and the longer I

> stay on TCM treatment, the more I improve. Every time I slack off

> treatment, I start to have problems. And treatment needs change over

> time.

>

> I came down with CFIDS in the early 1970s 6 months after gall

> bladder surgery. (It's now known that histamine-releasing

> anesthesias can trigger CFIDS in susceptible individuals. The CFIDS

> Association of America has a list of which anesthesias are safer and

> which are apt to trigger problems in people at risk for developing

> CFIDS or who already have it.) Back then it didn't have a name. That

> was still 10 years in the future. I lucked up in that I had an old

> country doctor who even though he didn't know what I had used his

> training and his powers of analysis to figure out things that would

> help. Some of what he tried me on and which helped (like the B12

> injections) are recognized today as helping many people with CFIDS.

>

> I am one of a subset of PWCs (People With CFIDS)who does have a

> history of recurring bouts of mononucleosis. (I suspect that there

> may be more but doctors haven't thought to check for it. Part of

> the reason is because at least as late as the late 1980s it was

> widely believed that children didn't get mono, once you had it you

> never got it again, and people over a certain age didn't get it.

> The reason I got diagnosed as often as I did probably was because

> for a large part of my life I have either been in school or using

> military medicine. The two environments where doctors see a lot of

> cases of mono and where monospot tests are ordered more routinely

> than in other settings.

>

> I have a history of on-again, off-again thyroid problems.

> Hypothyroidism in every case except one time when I was

> hyperthyroid. Here's another interesting correlation. Every time

> that I have had mono or a mono-like illiness in my life, I have also

> had thyroid problems. I'm not talking about just the sumptoms of

> hypothyroidism but verifiable lab tests that thyroid function was

> low. Thyroid supplementation helped many of the symptoms, but still

> left a lot to be desired. TCM helped what thyroid supplementation

> couldn't.

>

> Over the years I repeatedly have noticed another pattern. Often

> after I start to improve (and am more active), I reach a crisis

> point. I start to have more problems with allergies and allergy-

> like reactions, and I start a downward spiral again. What has

> stopped this every time has been the combination of thyroid

> supplementation and prednisone. After so many times I discovered

> that lower than normal dosages of both for a very short period of

> time is enough to reverse the downward spiral. A few years ago I

> read about some doctors starting to consider this combination in

> treating some CFIDS patients, so evidently I'm not the only person

> to have noticed this over the years.

>

> >From a TCM standpoint I have a lot of problems with cold and with

> wind. Though I'm greatly improved from what I was, I still am

> vulnerable to cold and wind in the environment. I do worse in winter

> than in summer. As temperatures rise, so does my energy. (At least

> until it gets too hot in the summer.) As temperatures rise, my

> muscles also get more flexable. (For readers new to TCM, the concept

> of Wind includes not only the wind but changes in barometric

> pressure and changes in ion concentrations.)

>

>

>

 

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[Guest guest]

I'm glad you're getting the help you need.

 

Complicating things is that one effect of certain viruses like

Epstein Barr is that they can cause one to be incredibly depressed.

It's a side effect of the increased cytokline production by the

body. No amount of talk therapy or antidepressants is going to lift

a viral-mediated depression. Only putting the infection into

remission.

 

Like fever (if it doesn't go too high), like the pain from a broken

ankle that keeps one off it until a cast is applied and keeps more

damage from being done to the ankle, etc., the depression from

certain viral infections can aid the healing process. As long as it

doesn't get too bad, and as long as the person realizes what is

happening. A necessary part of treating some viral infections is

rest, and a viral-mediated depression does cause one to not exert

oneself too much.

 

Chinese Traditional Medicine , tedd <tguenzel@c...> wrote:

>

> Hi,Victoria,

> This is exactly what I have be diagnosed with, and have. My

morning body

> temp is 95.7.

> It took 1 year for western medicial doctors to finally find it.

And

> total cost for me missing work

> and sickness and doctor costs about $6000.00.

> Now getting treated with both western and eastern medication ie

Vitamin

> IV drip and Herbs plus acupuncture.

> Thanks,

> Tedd

> PS this hit me so bad I almost took my life to end it.

>

[Guest guest]

How good is Dr. Wilson's formula for yin and yang

deficiency? Like Shilajit will it cause blood pressure

rise and also damage kidney yin and yang?

 

--- vinod3x3 wrote:

 

>

>

> Anyone under stress might need extra magnesium and

> potassium to help

> to relax the muscles and give a little relief from

> the constant

> assult on the sympathetic nervous system. Aspartates

> are a good form

> for both minerals. In these cases calcium is

> probably not as

> important as mag/pot. There are many common formulas

> that have

> magnesium potassium in combination - if there are

> anxiety or heart

> symptoms then take a formula with mag/pot aspartates

> and Taurine will

> be helpful. Mag/pot - taurine combinations are

> widely used in many

> disease processes involving the nervous system

> (SNS)and the heart.

>

> Anyone suffering from FM should read Bob Flaws'

> paper at his site

> www.bluepoppy.com on the subject. He has a book on

> the subject but

> you can read several very interesting papers for

> free at his site as

> well. In ancient theory these types of diseases are

> caused by 'cold

> damage' and 'yin fire'. Both of these concepts are

> not well

> understood by many western practioners but in my

> opinion this is the

> real answer to many complicated disease syndromes -

> like CFS and FM.

> For years I have been trying to encourage people to

> look at their CFS

> and FM as hypometabolic disorers.

>

> Li Dong-yuan of the Jin-yuan dynasty - first

> described the concept of

> yin fire - this is not the same as yang vacuity or

> heat vacuity - and

> he was not refering to digestive disorders per se -

> he was refering

> to a whole catagory of allergic and autoimmune

> diseases that have

> mixed hot and cold symptoms. These type of

> complicated disease

> patterns are very common in modern people.

>

> There are several medicines that are very useful for

> these types of

> cases. Master Li himself developed many formulas for

> dealing with

> these mixed symptom pictures. Some of these

> medicines are among the

> most popular medicines in the world today - for

> obvious reasons. In

> Asia millions of people take these medicines daily

> to help them deal

> with the modern society which naturally creates

> mixed hot and cold

> symptoms.

>

> Three of these medicines should be understood by we

> modern people.

> Since the most common pattern seen in these cases is

> spleen/liver

> disharmony - most medicines dealing with yin fire

> disease harmonize

> the spleen and liver. Bob Flaws says that these

> patterns are the most

> important in yin fire - " These are spleen qi

> vacuity, liver

> depression/depressive heat, damp heat, yin and blood

> vacuity with

> vacuity heat, and stirring of ministerial fire. "

>

> The three medicines are -

>

> Xiao Chai Hu Tang - Minor Bupleurum

>

> Bu Zhong Yi Qi Tang - Central Qi Pill

>

> Ban Xia Xie Xin Tang - Pinellia drain the Heart

> Decoction

>

> Used singly or in combination according to the case

> these are

> powerful medicines for balancing the spleen/liver

> disharmony.

>

> One has seen many cases tremendously benefited by

> these medicines.

> The combination of thyroid supplementation, mild

> diet, and yin fire

> controling medicines will begin resolution of many

> hypometabolic

> diseases. Thyroid of course can only be prescribed

> by an expert in

> endocrine functioning. Dr. Denis Wilson (Wilson

> Syndrome)has a simple

> Thyroid support formula that will work

> synergestically with

> spleen/liver harmonizing herbs. The link for his

> site and that

> formula (based on Guggul)- is -

>

>

>

http://www.wilsonssyndrome.com/Products/ThyroCare.htm

>

> Many cases of CFS and FM are suffering from the

> syndrome that doctor

> Wilson described that is now called Wilson Syndrome.

> This syndrome is

> hypometabolism with chronic low temperature - in the

> absence of

> abnormal thyroid tests. Understanding chronic low

> body temperature

> and yin fire disease will give great insight into

> ones cold damage

> disorder. If one is not sure if they have chronic

> low temps - then

> take it - for three days and average the result - if

> early morning

> temps average below 97.7 and if they average below

> 98.2 in the

> afternoon - then one has hypometabolism. In CFS and

> FM patients the

> temps can average as low as the mid 95's - but temps

> that average in

> the mid 96's will have a multitude of complicated

> life limiting

> symptoms.

>

>

>

>

> Chinese Traditional Medicine , Karen

> Peterson <kpeterha@p...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Victoria,

> >

> > I take an extra 300 mg per day of Magnesium

> Asporotates for my

> > fibromyalgia and migraine prevention. I have the

> insomnia, muscle

> > spasms and muscles that stay too contracted

> (tense) and am very

> > sensitive to pain. I used to sweat a lot before

> starting

> acupuncture

> > and chinese herbs, but I still have much pelvic

> pain ( interstitial

> > cystitis, endometriosis, and pelvic floor disorder

> ), and neck,

> > shoulder, rib, low back, mid-back, and hip pain.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I wonder myself about Wilson's thyroid herbal formula. For one thing

it has iodine which in some cases of hypothyroid (mainly Hashimoto's)

causes some people to have more autoimmune symptoms. Not desirable at

all if this is a problem. Also seaweeds are cooling in general, as

already pointed out. As well I believe the blue flag is cooling and

also is more often used with those who are hyperthyroid. So it's hard

to understand what it is doing in a formula for those who are leaning

more towards hypothyroid. This leaves the gugglu, a warming herb, but

can it make up for the two cold herbs plus the fact the seaweed might

trigger autoimmune responses in some people? Using herbs to stimulate

the thyroid is tricky at best, especially if the patient is on thyroid

medication. Perhaps because SRT3 (used in the WTS protocol) may be

strongly stimulating to the thyroid this formula has been made to

enhance and tone down the undesirable compenents of SRT3's effects.

When I saw Wilson no such options were available to his patients. In

my experience sometimes the side effects of SRT3 were quite powerful

and uncomfortable, and I realize now that the long term use of it

unbalanced my body. It took TCM and a change to prescription natural

thyroid hormone to bring about better health (the problem I had was

finding a doctor willing to do this).

 

 

Chinese Traditional Medicine , tulu 489 <tulu489> wrote:

>

> How good is Dr. Wilson's formula for yin and yang

> deficiency? Like Shilajit will it cause blood pressure

> rise and also damage kidne

[Guest guest]

Guggul is warming and extremely drying. The beauty of

TCM and Ayurvedic formulae is that they are balanced.

That means dryness created by Guggul would be

neutralized by another herb that would be

moisturising.

I doubt that Wilson's formula has any blancing in

mind.

By the way Guggul is sold as Myrrh and is an excellent

remedy for arthritis.

 

Atul Tiwari

--- baidanwu34 <bonmotSarah wrote:

>

>

> I wonder myself about Wilson's thyroid herbal

> formula. For one thing

> it has iodine which in some cases of hypothyroid

> (mainly Hashimoto's)

> causes some people to have more autoimmune symptoms.

> Not desirable at

> all if this is a problem. Also seaweeds are cooling

> in general, as

> already pointed out. As well I believe the blue

> flag is cooling and

> also is more often used with those who are

> hyperthyroid. So it's hard

> to understand what it is doing in a formula for

> those who are leaning

> more towards hypothyroid. This leaves the gugglu, a

> warming herb, but

> can it make up for the two cold herbs plus the fact

> the seaweed might

> trigger autoimmune responses in some people? Using

> herbs to stimulate

> the thyroid is tricky at best, especially if the

> patient is on thyroid

> medication. Perhaps because SRT3 (used in the WTS

> protocol) may be

> strongly stimulating to the thyroid this formula has

> been made to

> enhance and tone down the undesirable compenents of

> SRT3's effects.

> When I saw Wilson no such options were available to

> his patients. In

> my experience sometimes the side effects of SRT3

> were quite powerful

> and uncomfortable, and I realize now that the long

> term use of it

> unbalanced my body. It took TCM and a change to

> prescription natural

> thyroid hormone to bring about better health (the

> problem I had was

> finding a doctor willing to do this).

>

>

> Chinese Traditional Medicine , tulu 489

> <tulu489> wrote:

> >

> > How good is Dr. Wilson's formula for yin and yang

> > deficiency? Like Shilajit will it cause blood

> pressure

> > rise and also damage kidne

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Chinese Traditional Medicine , tulu 489 <tulu489> wrote:

 

> Guggul is warming and extremely drying. The beauty of

> TCM and Ayurvedic formulae is that they are balanced.

> That means dryness created by Guggul would be

> neutralized by another herb that would be

> moisturising.

> I doubt that Wilson's formula has any blancing in

> mind.

> By the way Guggul is sold as Myrrh and is an excellent

> remedy for arthritis.

>

 

Hey, guys I found a local acupuncturist who is doing acudetox and

practicing part time. Perhaps he will be a good mentor por moi! I

don't want to beset him with too many questions, less he think I am

trying to get treatment for free, though.

 

It is really interesting and encouraging to see how conventional

western medicine and TCM can compliment one another. For instance, I

found out that guggul can lower lipids, support thyroid, etc. And as

it turns out it WOULD be indicated for some of my symptoms from a TCM

point of view as well.

 

My question is this . . . one reason that I never have really gotten

into herbal remedies in the past is that there is really no way to

tell how much you are getting and therefore you don't know if you are

getting enough to have a therapeutic benefit. My ob/gyn grudgingly

admitted that herbal therapies can be helpful, but she was quick to

point this out.

 

So how are Chinese Herbs that you would get from an acupuncturist

different? Are there any brands that you guys find consistently good?

As I said once before, I was surprised to find that practicioners

offer herbs in a pill form. Of course, I am willing to drink yucky

teas, but not everyone is.