Some questions

[Guest guest]

Hello!

First, I want to say I really enjoy reading all the posts! Now to

my questions:

 

I recently visited Master Hong Liu in LA. One of the pieces

of " homework " he gave me, was to purchase a back extension table. I

have been a cardiac patient all my life and have a crooked back from

the heart surgeries. He suggested the table to get my back straight

again. It's been almost two months and it's working! ANd, I have

another effect from the back table which I find unusual. It makes

me " poop " a LOT!! Why is this?

 

My second question is about the diaphram. Are there any specific

qigong exercises for this? Because of my bad posture and my

previous stroke, my diapragm is very weak. Actually, when I visited

Dr. Effie Chow, she said my diaphragm was attrophied.

 

Thanks for any suggestions!

 

Elizabeth

[Guest guest]

Hi Elizabeth,

Opening the chest area allows you to breath in more easily in from a TCM

point of view strengths your Lung. Since the Lung and the Large Intestine

are Yin-Yang related, i.e they both are considered to belong to the same

element, metal. So by boosting your Lung Qi you are also improving your

Large Intestine Qi and this restores normal peristaltic activity.

 

Guy

 

 

On 5/26/06, Elizabeth <tazzyviolin wrote:

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> again. It's been almost two months and it's working! ANd, I have

> another effect from the back table which I find unusual. It makes

> me " poop " a LOT!! Why is this?

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[Guest guest]

Elizabeth:

What is a back extension table? I am specifically interested regarding

scoliosis patients.

Joyce

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Elizabeth

Chinese Traditional Medicine

Friday, May 26, 2006 3:58 AM

[Chinese Traditional Medicine] Some questions

 

 

Hello!

First, I want to say I really enjoy reading all the posts! Now to

my questions:

 

I recently visited Master Hong Liu in LA. One of the pieces

of " homework " he gave me, was to purchase a back extension table. I

have been a cardiac patient all my life and have a crooked back from

the heart surgeries. He suggested the table to get my back straight

again. It's been almost two months and it's working! ANd, I have

another effect from the back table which I find unusual. It makes

me " poop " a LOT!! Why is this?

 

My second question is about the diaphram. Are there any specific

qigong exercises for this? Because of my bad posture and my

previous stroke, my diapragm is very weak. Actually, when I visited

Dr. Effie Chow, she said my diaphragm was attrophied.

 

Thanks for any suggestions!

 

Elizabeth

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Guy Sedan " <guysedan

wrote:

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> Hi Elizabeth,

> Opening the chest area allows you to breath in more easily in

from a TCM

> point of view strengths your Lung. Since the Lung and the Large

Intestine

> are Yin-Yang related, i.e they both are considered to belong to

the same

> element, metal. So by boosting your Lung Qi you are also

improving your

> Large Intestine Qi and this restores normal peristaltic activity.

 

I want to emphasize this and add a little more information for the

beginning TCM students on the list.

 

In TCM physiology, one of the functions of the Lungs is that they

control Dispersing and Descending.

 

" As we have seen, Lung-Qi must descend to communicate with the

Kidneys and these respond by 'holding' Qi. The descending function

applies not only to Qi but also to body fluids, because the Lungs

also direct fluids down to the Kidneys and Bladder. If this

descending movement of Qi is impaired, Lung-Qi does not flow down

and Qi will accumulate in the chest causing cough, breathlessness

and oppression of the chest. In some case, it may affect the

function of the Large Intestine. If the Large Intestine does not

receive Qi from the Lungs, it will not have the power necessary for

defecation (this happens particularly to old people). In certain

cases, the impairment of the Lung descending function may also cause

retention of urine (again, particularly in old people). " (Giovanni

Maciocia, The Foundations of , p. 85.)

 

The important thing to remember at this point is that the Lungs

control the Descending of Qi (and fluids). If for any reason the

Lungs can not perform this Descending function, Qi can accumulate in

the chest, causing a number of problems like " cough, breathlessness

and oppression of the chest " .

 

There is a special relationship between the Lungs and the Large

Intestine. In 5 Element Theory they are both classified as " Metal " ,

with the Lungs being Yin Metal and the Large Intestine being Yang

Metal. Don't worry about what " Metal " or " 5 Element Theory " means at

this point. Just remember that there is a special relationship

between the Lungs and the Large Intestine.

 

Because of that special relationship between the Lungs and the Large

Intestine, some cases (not all) of " constipation " / colonic inertia

(lack of peritalsis that moves the fecal matter through the

intestine) will be due to the Lung's function of Descending the Qi

being messed up. The Large Intestine simply is not receiving the Qi

it needs for peritalsis (wave-like motions) to move the fecal matter.

 

Knowledge of that special relationship between the Lungs and the

Large Intestine also can be used in other ways. For example, when

Heat builds up in the Lungs, one way to get rid of it is to purge

the Large Intestine. The relationship between the Lungs and the

Large Intestine can be a two-way street. If the Lung-Qi fails to

Descend properly, " constipation " / colonic inertia can result. BUT

if the intestines are packed with fecal matter, this can interfere

with the Lungs' Descending function in that it can interfere with

the full expansion of the lungs. Proper breathing is done with the

abdominal muscles, not just with the chest muscles.

 

Note: You'll want to be very, very careful using purging in clients

who are Qi Deficient as this dissipates Qi. You'll learn about this

later in your studies.

 

Also keep in mind that the Lungs control not only the Descending of

Qi but that of fluids as well. The Lungs often will play a role in

cases of edema and sometimes will play a role in retention of urine.

 

I want to mention something here which is not TCM but which can

impact a person's ability to breathe correctly and thus impact how

much Qi the person has as well as that Descending function of the

Lungs. Breathing is accomplished because of the relaxation and

contraction of muscles. If something interferes with the ability of

muscles to relax and contract in turn, the Lungs will not be able to

take in enough " good " Qi and air and expel the " bad " Qi and air.

Muscles need magnesium in order to relax. If a person is Mg

deficient, the muscles will tend to overly contract and stay too

contracted. If the abdominal (and chest) muscles aren't able to

relax in turn after contracting, this interferes with breathing.

(Too much Mg can result in muscles staying too relaxed and not being

able to contract in turn. Too much Mg like too little can be fatal.)

[Guest guest]

Chinese Traditional Medicine , " victoria_dragon "

<victoria_dragon wrote:

 

>

> Note: You'll want to be very, very careful using purging in clients

> who are Qi Deficient as this dissipates Qi. You'll learn about this

> later in your studies.

 

I was reading an article by an acupuncture doctor who recommended

oxygen-type (oxypowder? oxycleanse? something like that) purgers for

constipation for deficient people as these don't dissipate chi. They

do contain Mg but apparently it is not the Mg alone that does the

trick. Something to do with ozonation.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Joyce,

Go to comfortchannel.com and type in back extension table. It's an

arc shaped table which is padded. This table goes into three

different levels! I am very pleased with the quality.

 

Elizabeth

 

 

 

 

Chinese Traditional Medicine , Joyce Schwartz <joyces

wrote:

>

> Elizabeth:

> What is a back extension table? I am specifically interested

regarding scoliosis patients.

> Joyce

> -

> Elizabeth

> Chinese Traditional Medicine

> Friday, May 26, 2006 3:58 AM

> [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Some questions

>

>

> Hello!

> First, I want to say I really enjoy reading all the posts! Now

to

> my questions:

>

> I recently visited Master Hong Liu in LA. One of the pieces

> of " homework " he gave me, was to purchase a back extension

table. I

> have been a cardiac patient all my life and have a crooked back

from

> the heart surgeries. He suggested the table to get my back

straight

> again. It's been almost two months and it's working! ANd, I

have

> another effect from the back table which I find unusual. It

makes

> me " poop " a LOT!! Why is this?

>

> My second question is about the diaphram. Are there any

specific

> qigong exercises for this? Because of my bad posture and my

> previous stroke, my diapragm is very weak. Actually, when I

visited

> Dr. Effie Chow, she said my diaphragm was attrophied.

>

> Thanks for any suggestions!

>

> Elizabeth

>

>

>

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