fallen arches - flat feet

June 1, 2006

It has just been brought to my attention that my 11 year old daughter has NO

arches in her feet............I kinda feel bad for not noticing this

earlier.....or did it just happen, I don't know.

Anyway, I'm curious as to what TCM's perspective would be on fallen arches and

how or why this occurs.........any ideas or thoughts would be greatly

appreciated.

much thanks,

Marlene

June 10, 2006

> It has just been brought to my attention that my 11 year

> old daughter has NO arches in her feet............

<snip>

> Anyway, I'm curious as to what TCM's perspective would

> be on fallen arches and how or why this occurs

Check out the Meridians impacted and assess the pulses, hara et cetera to see if

there's a

correlation.

Btw, we aren't born with the 12 Meridians. They develope after birth just as the

arches in

our feet and the curvatures in our spine do.

Genetics has a role here but so does lifestyle modification (DIET and exercize).

We're walking billboards of our Qi balances.

The past day I've been chatting with a fellow shiatsu therapist about the

relationship of the

placement of one's teeth and how it relates to chronic excesses and

deficiencies.

Interesting concepts!

June 11, 2006

Chinese Traditional Medicine , " hyldemoer " <hyldemoer wrote:

>

> The past day I've been chatting with a fellow shiatsu therapist

about the relationship of the

> placement of one's teeth and how it relates to chronic excesses and

deficiencies.

> Interesting concepts!

>

This thing about tooth placement is of interest to me. Where can I

find some further detail on this? I do recall some fellow saying that

artificial straightening of the teeth (which may involve pulling

healthy teeth) was not good for one's health, that it amounted to

un-natural force on the organs that correlate. It is common sense

that braces cannot be good for a growing child's brain, with all the

pressure that is being placed. I am old enough to remember when most

people's teeth were naturally straight, or only slightly crooked.

Now, the children have really crooked teeth, and all adults who have a

dental plan are walking around with a package of Chiclets passing for

teeth...

June 11, 2006

> This thing about tooth placement is of interest to me.

> Where can I find some further detail on this?

Here's an address that was shared to me.

http://www.cnri.edu/drwilson/Dentalinfo/toothorganchart.htm

In my own ABT practice I don't arbitrarily assume Points and Meridians to always

be where

a traditional Chinese theory might place them in relationship to physical

anatomy. I'm

familiar enough to how the various Qi feels to identify where and how they are.

This

means I wouldn't necessarily use such a chart as an exact science, just a

possible

neighborhood of interpretation.

June 11, 2006

Hi everybody , i am new to this list , and this is my

first post.

i am as well very interested about the teeth and their

relation to organs and emotions.

may i ask a few questions :

would it mean according to the charts you posted that

affected teeth are a sign of related affected organs

? or vice versa ?

what are the treatments ( herbal and acunpunctural )

that TCM recommands for teeth health ?

where coulld one find more detailled information on

the matter ?

for example what could be the relations between

specific teeth afflictions like gengivitis or cavities

and afflictions with related organs ?

thanks and have a good day .

in peace , karl

--- hyldemoer <hyldemoer wrote:

> > This thing about tooth placement is of interest to

> me.

> > Where can I find some further detail on this?

>

> Here's an address that was shared to me.

>

http://www.cnri.edu/drwilson/Dentalinfo/toothorganchart.htm

>

> In my own ABT practice I don't arbitrarily assume

> Points and Meridians to always be where

> a traditional Chinese theory might place them in

> relationship to physical anatomy. I'm

> familiar enough to how the various Qi feels to

> identify where and how they are. This

> means I wouldn't necessarily use such a chart as an

> exact science, just a possible

> neighborhood of interpretation.

>

June 12, 2006

Hi Karl,

Welcome to Chinese Traditional Medicine.

I hope someone with more info than I have responds to your post.

This is just some bare basics general info for the list members who

are new to TCM so they can follow the discussion too.

In general the state of the teeth can reflect the state of the

Kidneys. The word Kidneys is capitalized because I'm referring to

the TCM Kidneys and not the anatomical kidneys. TCM Organs are

collections of functions. The Kidneys not only contain many of the

functions of the kidneys but also the adrenal glands. The health of

the bones and teeth are related strongly to the Kidneys. In

addition, the Kidneys are said to " open into the ears " . You'll be

surprised how often people with ear/ hearing problems also have

Kidney imbalance and vice versa.

Some of the general symptoms that cause TCM healers to suspect

possible Kidney imbalance are back pain (especially lower back

pain), painful knees, urination problems, bone problems, problems

with the teeth, and problems with the ears or hearing. These are

general symptoms and won't tell the healer what the specific Kidney

imbalance is, only that there is a likelihood of some kind of Kidney

imbalance. Other possible causes of some of these symptoms also have

to be ruled out.

Since there are people on the list who are new to TCM, I'm going to

go into some basic details on this next part. Qi, pronounced " chee " ,

is roughly though inadequately translated as " energy " . There are

pathways of Qi flow throughout the body. These are called meridians

or channels. There can be an effect on the body wherever these

meridians are located. A number of these meridians course where the

teeth are or nearby.

Any time there is something unusual along the course of a meridian,

suspect that there is a problem in that meridian. By " unusual " I

mean pain, coldness, heat, numbness, tingling, or weird sensations.

In addition, there also can be imbalances in certain Organs.

However, this is only part of what can happen. In addition there are

certain points that can relieve a toothache or at least lessen it.

Some of these points like Large Intestine 4 and Triple Warmer 13

aren't even located on the head. Others like Stomach 3 and Stomach

6 are. BTW, the Stomach meridian can have a powerful impact on the

teeth because of its location.

I want to caution readers that working some acupoints is NO

substitution for seeing a dentist. (Voice of experience here.)

Bacteria can enter the blood stream via cavities. Among other

things, some of this bacteria can weaken and damage the heart.

Having untreated dental problems also can impact the health of the

adrenal glands, wearing them down and eventually leading to adrenal

fatigue or worsening adrenal fatigue that already exists.

There are two main reasons for using acupoints to reduce or get rid

of a toothache. One is to lessen the pain while you're waiting to

see the dentist. The other is that there may not be anything wrong

with the teeth. There are no cavities or malformed teeth or other

dental problems; the pain is coming strictly from a problem in a

meridian.

I also want to caution readers that sometimes a toothache when there

is nothing wrong with the teeth can be a sign of a serious heart

problem, and the person needs to see a MD or DO immediately.

But most of these cases of pain in the teeth (or jaw) when there are

no dental problems will be due to meridian problems. So what can go

wrong in a meridian? They can be " invaded " by " Pernicious Evils " in

the environment. The Pernicious Evils are Cold, Heat, Damp, Dryness,

and Wind (also " Fire " ).

Most of these cases of pain in the teeth or jaws without dental

problems (or a certain heart problem) fall under the category of

Painful Obstruction Syndrome, aka Bi Syndrome. That's arthritis/

rheumatism. The 3 culprits to watch out for are Wind, Cold, and

Damp. They can invade the meridians from the environment and cause a

lot of pain. Treatment is aimed at expelling the Wind, Cold, and/or

Damp from the body.

In other cases Pernicious Evils can arise in the body because of

something in the Interior (Organs) of the body. For example, Blood

Deficiency can trigger Interior Wind.

Chinese Traditional Medicine , karl-otto von <karrrlo

wrote:

>

> Hi everybody , i am new to this list , and this is my

> first post.

> i am as well very interested about the teeth and their

> relation to organs and emotions.

> may i ask a few questions :

>

> would it mean according to the charts you posted that

> affected teeth are a sign of related affected organs

> ? or vice versa ?

> what are the treatments ( herbal and acunpunctural )

> that TCM recommands for teeth health ?

> where coulld one find more detailled information on

> the matter ?

> for example what could be the relations between

> specific teeth afflictions like gengivitis or cavities

> and afflictions with related organs ?

>

> thanks and have a good day .

> in peace , karl

>

> --- hyldemoer <hyldemoer wrote:

>

> > > This thing about tooth placement is of interest to

> > me.

> > > Where can I find some further detail on this?

> >

> > Here's an address that was shared to me.

> >

> http://www.cnri.edu/drwilson/Dentalinfo/toothorganchart.htm

> >

> > In my own ABT practice I don't arbitrarily assume

> > Points and Meridians to always be where

> > a traditional Chinese theory might place them in

> > relationship to physical anatomy. I'm

> > familiar enough to how the various Qi feels to

> > identify where and how they are. This

> > means I wouldn't necessarily use such a chart as an

> > exact science, just a possible

> > neighborhood of interpretation.

June 12, 2006

<snip>

> would it mean according to the charts you

> posted that affected teeth are a sign of

> related affected organs

> ? or vice versa ?

Hi Karl,

I think the chart was meant as you first ask,

as tool of assessment. Things regarding the

teeth tend to be a slow process so I imagine

they would reflect a long term state of Qi

balance.

However if they reflect Qi balance, were something

to happen to one or more of them suddenly I imagine

there could be an influence on the corresponding

Organ networks.

Please note I said " I imagine " . In this case my

imagination is influenced by my understanding

of Asian medical theory.

> what are the treatments ( herbal and acunpunctural )

> that TCM recommands for teeth health ?

Is this a question of general hygiene and nutrition?

or are you suggesting manupulating one's balance of

Qi specifically by focusing on just the teeth by their

relationship to Meridians of Organ networks?

> where coulld one find more detailled information on

> the matter ?

search engines?

Check the credentials of anyone publishing on the internet.

> for example what could be the relations between

> specific teeth afflictions like gengivitis or cavities

> and afflictions with related organs ?

Western medicine approaches this subject but not in

relationship to how the position of the tooth affected

is in relationship to an Organ network.

You didn't mention how much of an understanding of

general Asian medical theories you know.

June 12, 2006