atrial fibrillation

[Guest guest]

I am wondering if any of the practitioners out there have had any

success with atrial fibrillation - I imagine that acupuncture would

have some affect on this condition, but there is not alot of

information on this. There is quite a bit of information on

nutritional supplements so I am fine in that regards. Could I ask for

your personal experiences positive or negative.

 

thanks,

Christine

[Guest guest]

I too, would love to hear some responses as I have chronic afib.

The cardiologist wants to put an internal defibrillator into me.

 

Any acupuncturists in LA area have experience with this concition?

 

Elizabeth

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chinese Traditional Medicine , " christine_wnm "

<christine_wnm wrote:

>

> I am wondering if any of the practitioners out there have had any

> success with atrial fibrillation - I imagine that acupuncture

would

> have some affect on this condition, but there is not alot of

> information on this. There is quite a bit of information on

> nutritional supplements so I am fine in that regards. Could I ask

for

> your personal experiences positive or negative.

>

> thanks,

> Christine

>

[Guest guest]

How is the persons pulse, irregular?

 

 

 

--- christine_wnm <christine_wnm escreveu:

 

> I am wondering if any of the practitioners out there have had

> any

> success with atrial fibrillation - I imagine that acupuncture

> would

> have some affect on this condition, but there is not alot of

> information on this. There is quite a bit of information on

> nutritional supplements so I am fine in that regards. Could I

> ask for

> your personal experiences positive or negative.

>

> thanks,

> Christine

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

There are several causes of a-fib - some of the etiology is of an

opposite nature - some being Yin some Yang.

 

Some examples -

 

Heart defeciency - when the Qi of the Heart is weak or blocked then

the Heart is unable to keep it's patency and can go into fibrilaation.

Meaning the electrical field has become imbalanced and is either

misfiring (arrthymic) or the electrical field is flowing on the

surface and is no longer able to cause contractions.

 

Liver (Liver is parent of the Heart) disease can be a source of these

problems because the Qi (sugar metabolism) is being distrubuted

insuffecintly to keep the Heart properly nourished - this is

hypoglycemia - this happens most often in older people who have other

Heart problems although for a young person with SNS problems these

problems may arise easily when the Liver is stagnant.

 

Low blood PH - acid conditions aggravate all existing symptons.

 

Hypometabolism can trigger these problems as we age - this is related

to both of the above conditions.

 

When potassium and sodium become imbalanced in relationship to each

other the electrical charge switches. Example when potassium is low

and sodium is high then this will be the number one marker of

arrythmias of many types. Most cases of a-fib and Tachacardia will

have this component.

 

High carbon dioxide levels can cause arrthymias with or without low

oxygen levels because it stresses the oxygen pathways creating toxic

conditions of the blood - this is a type of poisoning of the cells.

 

Many types of toxins can interfer with electrical functions.

 

Sclerosis - this stiffens the mitral valves and sinus node making the

electrical pathways fire erraticaly.

 

SNS imbalance - over reactivity of the SNS is the true model of this

disease - this is more of a nervous system disease than a heart

disease - but this disease can cause heart disease if it is not

already there.

 

High levels of circulating catecholomines - high levels of adrenaline -

norapanephrine - angiotensin - etc. can be powerful triggers for

arrthymias - and are a major cause of these problems.

 

All hyper conditions can have this complication in those who are

susceptable - hypercortisol - hyperthyroid - etc.

 

Autoimmune conditions can cause these electrical problems directly by

attacking the heart itself or by attacking glands and organs that are

responsible for proper heart functioning.

 

Blood stasis and other stagnant toxic conditions of the blood

obviously cause electrical conduction problems.

 

There is a condition called 'phlegm mist blocking the orifices of the

Heart' - this is simply phlegm accumulations which are blocking

contractions and electrical flow - thinning the blood is the answer to

this - everyone with phlegm should do everything possible to correct

it as it causes not just Heart problems but can potentially interfere

with functioning in every cell and organ.

 

Malnutrition (in the modern western sense and in traditional

understandings) can be the source. Potassium was mentioned but just as

omportant is magnesium - many nutrients are being used for these

conditions - like COQ 10, taurine, etc.

 

As we can see electrical patency of the heart is a potentialy weak

point as we age or when suffering chronic defeciency and or excessive

states.

 

Ordinary arrythmias are very common and become even more common as we

age - true A-fib is less common but is an ordinary pathology

nevertheless. Some people have had arrythmias since childhood and it

does not cause much problem until one starts aging. Mild a-fib can be

lived with but moderate to severe a-fib should be treated as soon as

possible as the stress to the heart can be overwhelming and stroke is

the most dangerous complication.

 

This can be a dangerous disease and one should be under the care of a

knowlelgable proffesional. Since the etiology can be complicated it is

not helpful to make specific comments without knowing more about the

individual case. Accupuncture - herbs - dietary therapy - theraputic

exercise can correct this problem but naturally it will take total

commitment and knowledge.

 

Correcting the PH - calming the SNS - thinning the blood (resolving

the phlehm) - balancing the potassium/sodium metabolism - reducing the

CO2 levels will resolve a large percentage of these cases without

further intervention. Since most of these things can be achieved on

one's own then this is the obvious place to start. After that one will

need a professional to discover the underlying factors that are

tending one toward diseases of electrical conductivity. Remember that

many such diseases have a genetic component and therefore can not be

cured only managed. These symptoms will get worse as one ages if not

treated.

 

In my model of disease this is a disease of further deterioration of

the SNS balance - it has hormonal and mineral components that are

overwhelming the general balance of the SNS - in my opinion there is

almost always a Liver and Kidney defeciency that is the basic source

of the SNS issues - a disease of defecient Qi - either local or

generalized.

 

A few comments about pace-makers. One should avoid pacemakers if

possible - although for many this will not be an option. Those with

severe a-fib often must have a pacemaker to survive. The number one

problem with pacemakers is the fact of the many supporting drugs one

must take with them. All of these drugs have many (often severe or

dangerous) complications - such drugs as Digoxin, Coumadin, Beta-

lockers - Lasix - to take these medicines safely it is necessary to

have the drugs reevaluated and tested periodicaly - as an example

those with pacemakers must have regular blood tests to measure the

Coumadin(Wrafarin) levels since to high or to low a level can cause

strokes. One will be tied to these limitations for life. If possible

try to resolve the problem naturally. If one must have a pacemaker

then learn as much as possible about your pacemaker and make sure that

your drugs are regularaly checked - I have known cases where the

physician only checked the digoxin and coumadin levels every six

months (or longer)- this is very wrong.