Guest guest Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Parsley is listed as having oxalates.Oxalates combine(bind) with calcium and can possibly form kidney stones in those prone to getting them.That might be why there's conflicting information as to whats better for your kidneys.I also read somewhere where cranberries also contain oxalates but not enough info was available to decide one way or another for sure.I take cranberry capusules when needed to help prevent UTI's but.... remember cranberries are acidic and in certain individuals can aggravate aching or arthritic joints.Cranberry juice used to upset my tummy so I stopped drinking it. The capsules worked better.The thing about certain foods and medicines is that although they'll help cure one conditionthey can sometimes aggravate another one.Best to try something for a while and see how you react to it. My old acupuncture doc used to tell me to eats lots of watermelon to cleanse the kidneys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 > My old acupuncture doc used to tell me to eats lots of watermelon to > cleanse the kidneys. Yes! I read about it too but they say not recommended for people with diabetic tendency. marilyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Chinese Traditional Medicine , " emailme_marilyn " <emailme_marilyn wrote: > > > My old acupuncture doc used to tell me to eats lots of watermelon to > > cleanse the kidneys. > > > Yes! I read about it too but they say not recommended for people with > diabetic tendency. > > marilyn > Sheesh, lol, ya just can't win sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 One good herb for kidneys is Cherokee Rose, or Jin Ying Zi in Chinese. This is actually a part of the Chinese materia medica. Not sure whether this is available in North America, although the name suggests so. In China, this comes in different grades, the best having the qualities of good French red wine, such as a Beaujoulais. --- emailme_marilyn <emailme_marilyn wrote: > > My old acupuncture doc used to tell me to eats > lots of watermelon to > > cleanse the kidneys. > > > Yes! I read about it too but they say not > recommended for people with > diabetic tendency. > > marilyn > > > ______________________________\ ____ Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music./unlimited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 > Chinese Traditional Medicine , " emailme_marilyn " > <emailme_marilyn@> wrote: > > My old acupuncture doc used to tell me to eats lots of watermelon to > cleanse the kidneys. I have heard this also, but a bit differently. The way my TCM Dr explained it to me is that the seeds in the watermelon are what have the stone disolving properties. So what you do is you take watermelon seeds (fresh is probably better), and crack the shell. One way that works is to take a pan with a lip and put a cutting board or something else to hit on (the lip is so when you hit the seeds that they don't fly all over everywhere. Then take a meat tenderizer or something and smash the seeds (you don't want to pulverize them, just enough to break the shell in a few places). You could also probably use a sharp food processor. A blender does not work because the seeds are so small and slippery that a blender never actually cuts the seeds. Anyways after you are done with that, take the seeds and put them in a pan on the stove. Just cover them with a bit of water, and boil for about 30 to 60 min (decotion is what I think it's called). Cool and drink around room tempurature (maybe even a little warmer) 2 times per day. That is how he described it to me. I asked him to compare it to cranberries for kidney health, and he said they are much better (I think he was refering to their power to disolve mineral deposits within the kidneys or gall bladder. Anyways it wouldn't hurt to try it out. If you do, write back and say how things went =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 I've wondered what this means " diabetic tendency " or as is often said, " pre-diabetic " . I had an energy healer once tell me I was " pre-diabetic " , yet a friend of mine who has Type I diabetes, says that is not a real term. You either are, or you aren't diabetic according to her. emailme_marilyn <emailme_marilyn wrote: > My old acupuncture doc used to tell me to eats lots of watermelon to > cleanse the kidneys. Yes! I read about it too but they say not recommended for people with diabetic tendency. marilyn Tamara " You, yourself, as much as anybody in the universe, deserve your love and affection. " -- Buddha No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Mail for Mobile. Get started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 haha i didnt even know if " diabetic tendency " is a correct term. but because my husband's family have diabetes and his insulin resistance (most likely precursor to diabetes) is high, the doctor said he have " diabetic tendency) marilyn Chinese Traditional Medicine , Tamara <savepawsfurever wrote: > > I've wondered what this means " diabetic tendency " or as is often said, " pre-diabetic " . I had an energy healer once tell me I was " pre- diabetic " , yet a friend of mine who has Type I diabetes, says that is not a real term. You either are, or you aren't diabetic according to her. > > emailme_marilyn <emailme_marilyn wrote: > My old acupuncture doc used to tell me to eats lots of watermelon to > > cleanse the kidneys. > > Yes! I read about it too but they say not recommended for people with > diabetic tendency. > > marilyn Tamara > > " You, yourself, as much as anybody in the universe, deserve your love and affection. " > -- Buddha > > > > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > with Mail for Mobile. Get started. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Of course you're right--I thought of that the minute I sent the email. So the terms are really not the same, though I'm curious as to the use of " pre-diabetic " , which I've heard used as referring to being " on the verge of going into diabetes " , unless some sort of lifestyle change is not made. Is pre-diabetic a true state of the body? emailme_marilyn <emailme_marilyn wrote: haha i didnt even know if " diabetic tendency " is a correct term. but because my husband's family have diabetes and his insulin resistance (most likely precursor to diabetes) is high, the doctor said he have " diabetic tendency) marilyn Chinese Traditional Medicine , Tamara <savepawsfurever wrote: > > I've wondered what this means " diabetic tendency " or as is often said, " pre-diabetic " . I had an energy healer once tell me I was " pre- diabetic " , yet a friend of mine who has Type I diabetes, says that is not a real term. You either are, or you aren't diabetic according to her. > > emailme_marilyn <emailme_marilyn wrote: > My old acupuncture doc used to tell me to eats lots of watermelon to > > cleanse the kidneys. > > Yes! I read about it too but they say not recommended for people with > diabetic tendency. > > marilyn Tamara > > " You, yourself, as much as anybody in the universe, deserve your love and affection. " > -- Buddha > > > > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > with Mail for Mobile. Get started. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Chinese Traditional Medicine <Chinese Traditional Medicine > , Tamara <savepawsfurever wrote: > > Of course you're right--I thought of that the minute I sent the email. So the terms are really not the same, though I'm curious as to the use of " pre-diabetic " , which I've heard used as referring to being " on the verge of going into diabetes " , unless some sort of lifestyle change is not made. Is pre-diabetic a true state of the body? > Pre diabetes is an actual medical term. I know some people don't agree with the terminology, and the term really does not fit all that well. I think that's why so many people say pre diabetes does not exist. I'll just explain what I know of the western medical term, and maybe that can clear some things up. Diabetes is when you have average blood sugars above 126 units per mg/dL. Pre diabetes is when you have between 100 and 125 mg/dL (average). Basically pre diabetes means you don't have diebetes yet, but if you don't do something about it soon, you will get diabetes. I view it as western medicines attempt at preventative medicine. www.clevelandclinic.org/health/health-info/docs/3900/3959.asp?index=1271\ 0 <http://www.clevelandclinic.org/health/health-info/docs/3900/3959.asp?in\ dex=12710> is the link that references this info (it's a little off topic because it's focus is more towards medication) People in western medicine do realize that this term pre diabetes is not all that helpful, especially as a preventative medicine. " The abnormality of glucose is a very late development. If you wait for the glucose to become abnormal, you've already lost most of the horse. You're closing the stable door after it's escaped. What we need to do is start looking at people first from their family history. " - Dr. Mehta That sounds promising to me, atleast some parts of western medicine are heading in the right direction (hopefully more will follow). I watched an interesting show on aids the other day (called " and the band played on " ) that shows how there are many good people out there that want to make a difference. The problem is that sometimes the most effective medicine is preventative medicine, and it doesn't make any money. In fact you might loose money on it (in the situation of R & D for vaccines or something like that), and the fact that it can be unpopular. It's hard to get medical corporations to invest in something that is going to make them loose money, even if it is for the good of the people. Such as in this movie closing down the bathhouses in the 80's was considered discrimination, and at that time the government was trying to pull back and minimize it's control, but in the long run, if they were shut down, there is a good chance it could have saved millions and millions of people from suffering an aids death. All in all, for western medicine to better serve people, the system needs some changes, so when people are willing to make a difference, they can; instead of being caught up in lack of funding because what they have to offer is not profitable. I hope I didn't stray too much from the topic here =) I just saw that movie and thought it had a good message (I had to watch it for school). I hope maybe that clears up some of the confusion on prediabetes. As to more directly answer your question, the way chinese medicine looks at it is all the same disease, just how strong is it, and how much damage has it done, ect. It's like colors, if you have a color pallet and one side is white and the other is blue, and inbetween is a slow gradient from white to blue. Only the first square is actually white, all the other squares are blue. It just depends on how much blue. So there are diabetic (western term) conditions or tendancies that are not diseased enough to ever lead to diabetes. This is what you hope for (and do your best with diet and lifestyle) if diabetes runs in your family, and you don't want to get it. Chinese medicine is also good because it can suppliment the weakness or help trim down the excess to make your chances (of staying away from diebetes) much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Chinese Traditional Medicine , Tamara <savepawsfurever wrote:dear. iam trating one friend ,suffering from ankilosing spondlisis guasa treatment is in continuation. slight dffernce in the spine is notice . you can advace any additional treamentin TCM, whether EMU oli is application is advisible. sat.. > > I've wondered what this means " diabetic tendency " or as is often said, " pre-diabetic " . I had an energy healer once tell me I was " pre-diabetic " , yet a friend of mine who has Type I diabetes, says that is not a real term. You either are, or you aren't diabetic according to her. > > emailme_marilyn <emailme_marilyn wrote: > My old acupuncture doc used to tell me to eats lots of watermelon to > > cleanse the kidneys. > > Yes! I read about it too but they say not recommended for people with > diabetic tendency. > > marilyn Tamara > > " You, yourself, as much as anybody in the universe, deserve your love and affection. " > -- Buddha > > > > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > with Mail for Mobile. Get started. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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