Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Does anyone have experience using smokeless mini moxa? How long is it safe to leave on the skin (assuming the use of a moxa shield underneath it), e.g. on ST36 for immune support? The moxa burns down to the base exceedingly fast, and it seems as though it should be left on for some amount of time beyond that. I realize that every patient will have different sensitivities to heat, but is there a minimum time for effectiveness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Hi, Betty: Not sure if we use the same type of mini moxa, (mine has a cardboard tube with a round base with glue applied to the bottom for sticking to the skin). It's manufactured in Suzhou, China, and perhaps covers an area of 1 cm. In any event, I don't use a shield but depend on the round base as a shield. I often do ST 36 with my wife, and generally, leave it on for as long as she can take the pain. At first that was only prior to when all the heat had dissipated, but now she can take the moxa even after that final bit of burn. IMO that final little burn near the skin is most efficacious, but if the person can't take that pain, you shouldn't force them to. Just like acupuncture, the rule is how much pain the individual can stand. My wife has only experienced very slight tissue burn, so the mini moxa really doesn't cause much damage. It might be the case that the person grows resilient after several applications on the same area. I've moxa'ed others and they have never complained about the pain. Kind regards, Jack Advanced Medical Qi Men Dun Jia --- bettybrainerd <betty1905 wrote: > Does anyone have experience using smokeless mini > moxa? How long is it > safe to leave on the skin (assuming the use of a > moxa shield > underneath it), e.g. on ST36 for immune support? The > moxa burns down > to the base exceedingly fast, and it seems as though > it should be left > on for some amount of time beyond that. I realize > that every patient > will have different sensitivities to heat, but is > there a minimum time > for effectiveness? > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Games. http://videogames./platform?platform=120121 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 I've used what you describe on St-36, and got very good results. Chinese Traditional Medicine , Jack Sweeney <mojavecowboy wrote: > > Not sure if we use the same type of mini moxa, (mine > has a cardboard tube with a round base with glue > applied to the bottom for sticking to the skin). It's > manufactured in Suzhou, China, and perhaps covers an > area of 1 cm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 The times for heating a point with moxa may vary cosiderably, depending upon the point in question(CV4, in Japanese moxa style may be heated for a long time, in case of necessity), the problem treated, the constitution of the person, etc. A general measure would be three times each point(moxa repetitions being traditionally recommended to be odd in number -yang!), and not getting the point wet for two hours afterwards for the heat to penetrate effectively. It is said that the sensitiveness of the point is a measure of its 'sickness'; more sensitive more 'sick' it is. One has to have care not to exagerate and burn excessively, in 'yonder' days the japanese masters recommended blisters on the points as that guaranteed stronger stimulation(if the point started to heal, burn again, until problem resolved!), Today that is a bit out of fashion, as people do not want to be marked or feel any pain(are qe getting too soft?). regards, Marcos --- bettybrainerd <betty1905 escreveu: > Does anyone have experience using smokeless mini moxa? How > long is it > safe to leave on the skin (assuming the use of a moxa shield > underneath it), e.g. on ST36 for immune support? The moxa burns > down > to the base exceedingly fast, and it seems as though it should > be left > on for some amount of time beyond that. I realize that every > patient > will have different sensitivities to heat, but is there a > minimum time > for effectiveness? > > > > _____ Novo Messenger com voz: Instale agora e faça ligações de graça. http://br.messenger./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Chinese Traditional Medicine , " bettybrainerd " <betty1905 wrote: > > Does anyone have experience using smokeless mini moxa? Hi Betty, I have found that most of the direct smokeless moxa from China does get very hot very suddenly, and most find it very unpleasant. So I have started using a Korean smokeless moxa, which is a little bit more expensive, but works better clinically for me. It is contained in a cardboad cylinder through which the moxa is pushed so it is sitting about a centimeter over the skin, and gives a longer more steady heat. The writing on the package is all in Korean but I believe the brand in Kamaya- or something similar. Hope this helps. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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