Guest guest Posted February 10, 2007 Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 Hi, I have high blood pressure from depleted yin. I have had it for 11 years. I am very exhausted after caretaking my dying husband (died 11/11/2005)and various other major crises in the past ten years. I have no motivation to do anything and little desire to be on the planet. My spleen and uterus have been removed. I have benign liver disease (spots on the liver). At one time I had a ruptured spleen for four years that 'crawled around' trying to seal itself on various organs: diaphram, stomach etc. I have a feeling that there are tonics that could help. Thanks, Michelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2007 Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 There seems to be a lot going on here TCM is based on Wholism Need more information like the tongue color and BM, Fluid intake and expulsion, any edema? Constipation? SOB or shallow breathing? Any other pain or headaches? Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: Hi, I have high blood pressure from depleted yin. I have had it for 11 years. I am very exhausted after caretaking my dying husband (died 11/11/2005)and various other major crises in the past ten years. I have no motivation to do anything and little desire to be on the planet. My spleen and uterus have been removed. I have benign liver disease (spots on the liver). At one time I had a ruptured spleen for four years that 'crawled around' trying to seal itself on various organs: diaphram, stomach etc. I have a feeling that there are tonics that could help. Thanks, Michelle Where there is pain there is stagnation of qi and if there is no pain then there is no qi stagnation Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2007 Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 >normal tongue color and generally not a lot of coating. Scalloped tongue. Shallow breathing. Usually feel dehydrated and no matter how much I drink can't hydrate, but drink coffee, I know that contributes to the dehydration a lot. I drink a lot of tea and some just warm water. I drink a lot of water too. If it is chilled I can get chills. I am damp and on the cold side. I live in the cold damp Pacific Northwest of US. No edema or constipation. Digestive troubles. Take enzymes. Magnesium. Sometimes get headaches. I take Gan Mao Ling on a regular basis or I get out of body spells with weakness and strange dreamlike fragmented images. Michelle There seems to be a lot going on here TCM is based on Wholism Need more > information like the tongue color and BM, Fluid intake and expulsion, > any edema? Constipation? SOB or shallow breathing? Any other pain or > headaches? > > Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: Hi, > I have high blood pressure from depleted yin. I have had it for 11 > years. I am very exhausted after caretaking my dying husband (died > 11/11/2005)and various other major crises in the past ten years. I have > no motivation to do anything and little desire to be on the planet. My > spleen and uterus have been removed. I have benign liver disease (spots > on the liver). At one time I had a ruptured spleen for four years that > 'crawled around' trying to seal itself on various organs: diaphram, > stomach etc. > I have a feeling that there are tonics that could help. > Thanks, > Michelle Where there is pain there is stagnation of qi and if there is no pain > then there is no qi stagnation > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > Try the free Mail Beta. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2007 Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 >Am experiencig an out of body feeling now. Have felt it before. sometimes, like now it is with a hot flush after the strange rising feeling. Very spacy in the eyes. Gonna go lie down. ugh. Michelle >normal tongue color and generally not a lot of coating. Scalloped >> tongue. > Shallow breathing. Usually feel dehydrated and no matter how much I > drink can't hydrate, but drink coffee, I know that contributes to the > dehydration a lot. I drink a lot of tea and some just warm water. I > drink a lot of water too. If it is chilled I can get chills. I am damp > and on the cold side. I live in the cold damp Pacific Northwest of US. > No edema or constipation. Digestive troubles. Take enzymes. Magnesium. > Sometimes get headaches. I take Gan Mao Ling on a regular basis or I > get out of body spells with weakness and strange dreamlike fragmented > images. > Michelle > > There seems to be a lot going on here TCM is based on Wholism Need more >> information like the tongue color and BM, Fluid intake and expulsion, >> any edema? Constipation? SOB or shallow breathing? Any other pain or >> headaches? >> >> Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: Hi, >> I have high blood pressure from depleted yin. I have had it for 11 >> years. I am very exhausted after caretaking my dying husband (died >> 11/11/2005)and various other major crises in the past ten years. I >> have no motivation to do anything and little desire to be on the >> planet. My spleen and uterus have been removed. I have benign liver >> disease (spots on the liver). At one time I had a ruptured spleen for >> four years that 'crawled around' trying to seal itself on various >> organs: diaphram, stomach etc. >> I have a feeling that there are tonics that could help. >> Thanks, >> Michelle >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Where there is pain there is stagnation of qi and if there is no pain >> then there is no qi stagnation >> >> >> Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. >> Try the free Mail Beta. >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 >beef steak helps keep the out of body stuff at bay. Michelle >normal tongue color and generally not a lot of coating. Scalloped >> tongue. > Shallow breathing. Usually feel dehydrated and no matter how much I > drink can't hydrate, but drink coffee, I know that contributes to the > dehydration a lot. I drink a lot of tea and some just warm water. I > drink a lot of water too. If it is chilled I can get chills. I am damp > and on the cold side. I live in the cold damp Pacific Northwest of US. > No edema or constipation. Digestive troubles. Take enzymes. Magnesium. > Sometimes get headaches. I take Gan Mao Ling on a regular basis or I > get out of body spells with weakness and strange dreamlike fragmented > images. > Michelle > > There seems to be a lot going on here TCM is based on Wholism Need more >> information like the tongue color and BM, Fluid intake and expulsion, >> any edema? Constipation? SOB or shallow breathing? Any other pain or >> headaches? >> >> Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: Hi, >> I have high blood pressure from depleted yin. I have had it for 11 >> years. I am very exhausted after caretaking my dying husband (died >> 11/11/2005)and various other major crises in the past ten years. I >> have no motivation to do anything and little desire to be on the >> planet. My spleen and uterus have been removed. I have benign liver >> disease (spots on the liver). At one time I had a ruptured spleen for >> four years that 'crawled around' trying to seal itself on various >> organs: diaphram, stomach etc. >> I have a feeling that there are tonics that could help. >> Thanks, >> Michelle >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Where there is pain there is stagnation of qi and if there is no pain >> then there is no qi stagnation >> >> >> Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. >> Try the free Mail Beta. >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 As for tonics they are very cloying and it seems like your shen has no root, Lung yin and qi deficiency. But you need to do two things and neither are self medicate. 1. See a doctor 2. See a licensed Acupuncturist and herbalist. Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: >normal tongue color and generally not a lot of coating. Scalloped tongue. Shallow breathing. Usually feel dehydrated and no matter how much I drink can't hydrate, but drink coffee, I know that contributes to the dehydration a lot. I drink a lot of tea and some just warm water. I drink a lot of water too. If it is chilled I can get chills. I am damp and on the cold side. I live in the cold damp Pacific Northwest of US. No edema or constipation. Digestive troubles. Take enzymes. Magnesium. Sometimes get headaches. I take Gan Mao Ling on a regular basis or I get out of body spells with weakness and strange dreamlike fragmented images. Michelle There seems to be a lot going on here TCM is based on Wholism Need more > information like the tongue color and BM, Fluid intake and expulsion, > any edema? Constipation? SOB or shallow breathing? Any other pain or > headaches? > > Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: Hi, > I have high blood pressure from depleted yin. I have had it for 11 > years. I am very exhausted after caretaking my dying husband (died > 11/11/2005)and various other major crises in the past ten years. I have > no motivation to do anything and little desire to be on the planet. My > spleen and uterus have been removed. I have benign liver disease (spots > on the liver). At one time I had a ruptured spleen for four years that > 'crawled around' trying to seal itself on various organs: diaphram, > stomach etc. > I have a feeling that there are tonics that could help. > Thanks, > Michelle Where there is pain there is stagnation of qi and if there is no pain > then there is no qi stagnation > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > Try the free Mail Beta. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 because beef is a hot food and you have internal cold, it is also very grounding Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: >beef steak helps keep the out of body stuff at bay. Michelle >normal tongue color and generally not a lot of coating. Scalloped >> tongue. > Shallow breathing. Usually feel dehydrated and no matter how much I > drink can't hydrate, but drink coffee, I know that contributes to the > dehydration a lot. I drink a lot of tea and some just warm water. I > drink a lot of water too. If it is chilled I can get chills. I am damp > and on the cold side. I live in the cold damp Pacific Northwest of US. > No edema or constipation. Digestive troubles. Take enzymes. Magnesium. > Sometimes get headaches. I take Gan Mao Ling on a regular basis or I > get out of body spells with weakness and strange dreamlike fragmented > images. > Michelle > > There seems to be a lot going on here TCM is based on Wholism Need more >> information like the tongue color and BM, Fluid intake and expulsion, >> any edema? Constipation? SOB or shallow breathing? Any other pain or >> headaches? >> >> Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: Hi, >> I have high blood pressure from depleted yin. I have had it for 11 >> years. I am very exhausted after caretaking my dying husband (died >> 11/11/2005)and various other major crises in the past ten years. I >> have no motivation to do anything and little desire to be on the >> planet. My spleen and uterus have been removed. I have benign liver >> disease (spots on the liver). At one time I had a ruptured spleen for >> four years that 'crawled around' trying to seal itself on various >> organs: diaphram, stomach etc. >> I have a feeling that there are tonics that could help. >> Thanks, >> Michelle >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Where there is pain there is stagnation of qi and if there is no pain >> then there is no qi stagnation >> >> >> Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. >> Try the free Mail Beta. >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 >Doctors have found nothing, I am seeing a licensed accupumcturist and herbalist. Accupuncture did something for me during my husband's illness but isn't worth the cost now as I experience nothing. I want more input than my (wonderful) accu/herbalist provides. I wonder why some people on the list get helpful hints and I always get " see a doctor'. it is frustrating. Michelle As for tonics they are very cloying and it seems like your shen has no > root, Lung yin and qi deficiency. But you need to do two things and > neither are self medicate. > 1. See a doctor > 2. See a licensed Acupuncturist and herbalist. > > > Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: > >normal tongue color and generally not a lot of coating. > Scalloped tongue. > Shallow breathing. Usually feel dehydrated and no matter how much I > drink can't hydrate, but drink coffee, I know that contributes to the > dehydration a lot. I drink a lot of tea and some just warm water. I > drink a lot of water too. If it is chilled I can get chills. I am damp > and on the cold side. I live in the cold damp Pacific Northwest of US. > No edema or constipation. Digestive troubles. Take enzymes. Magnesium. > Sometimes get headaches. I take Gan Mao Ling on a regular basis or I get > out of body spells with weakness and strange dreamlike fragmented > images. > Michelle > > There seems to be a lot going on here TCM is based on Wholism Need more >> information like the tongue color and BM, Fluid intake and expulsion, >> any edema? Constipation? SOB or shallow breathing? Any other pain or >> headaches? >> >> Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: Hi, >> I have high blood pressure from depleted yin. I have had it for 11 >> years. I am very exhausted after caretaking my dying husband (died >> 11/11/2005)and various other major crises in the past ten years. I >> have no motivation to do anything and little desire to be on the >> planet. My spleen and uterus have been removed. I have benign liver >> disease (spots on the liver). At one time I had a ruptured spleen for >> four years that 'crawled around' trying to seal itself on various >> organs: diaphram, stomach etc. >> I have a feeling that there are tonics that could help. >> Thanks, >> Michelle >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Where there is pain there is stagnation of qi and if there is no pain >> then there is no qi stagnation >> >> >> Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. >> Try the free Mail Beta. >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 > Thanks, I didn't realize it was considered " hot " . My accu/herbalist did mention it being grounding. I have read that pork and beef are good for the depleted person. Michelle because beef is a hot food and you have internal cold, it is also very > grounding > > Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: >beef steak > helps keep the out of body stuff at bay. Michelle > >>normal tongue color and generally not a lot of coating. Scalloped >>> tongue. >> Shallow breathing. Usually feel dehydrated and no matter how much I >> drink can't hydrate, but drink coffee, I know that contributes to the >> dehydration a lot. I drink a lot of tea and some just warm water. I >> drink a lot of water too. If it is chilled I can get chills. I am damp >> and on the cold side. I live in the cold damp Pacific Northwest of US. >> No edema or constipation. Digestive troubles. Take enzymes. Magnesium. >> Sometimes get headaches. I take Gan Mao Ling on a regular basis or I >> get out of body spells with weakness and strange dreamlike fragmented >> images. >> Michelle >> >> There seems to be a lot going on here TCM is based on Wholism Need >> more >>> information like the tongue color and BM, Fluid intake and expulsion, >>> any edema? Constipation? SOB or shallow breathing? Any other pain or >>> headaches? >>> >>> Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: Hi, >>> I have high blood pressure from depleted yin. I have had it for 11 >>> years. I am very exhausted after caretaking my dying husband (died >>> 11/11/2005)and various other major crises in the past ten years. I >>> have no motivation to do anything and little desire to be on the >>> planet. My spleen and uterus have been removed. I have benign liver >>> disease (spots on the liver). At one time I had a ruptured spleen for >>> four years that 'crawled around' trying to seal itself on various >>> organs: diaphram, stomach etc. >>> I have a feeling that there are tonics that could help. >>> Thanks, >>> Michelle >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Where there is pain there is stagnation of qi and if there is no pain >>> then there is no qi stagnation >>> >>> >>> Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. >>> Try the free Mail Beta. >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 that depends on what you are tonifying, Chicken and duck is yin. There is a website for Kamwo with different recipes for soups that are nourishing www.kamwo.com go to the section for soups. When was the last time you saw your Oriental medicine practitioner? You need to go on a regular basis to resolve this situation. Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: > Thanks, I didn't realize it was considered " hot " . My accu/herbalist did mention it being grounding. I have read that pork and beef are good for the depleted person. Michelle because beef is a hot food and you have internal cold, it is also very > grounding > > Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: >beef steak > helps keep the out of body stuff at bay. Michelle > >>normal tongue color and generally not a lot of coating. Scalloped >>> tongue. >> Shallow breathing. Usually feel dehydrated and no matter how much I >> drink can't hydrate, but drink coffee, I know that contributes to the >> dehydration a lot. I drink a lot of tea and some just warm water. I >> drink a lot of water too. If it is chilled I can get chills. I am damp >> and on the cold side. I live in the cold damp Pacific Northwest of US. >> No edema or constipation. Digestive troubles. Take enzymes. Magnesium. >> Sometimes get headaches. I take Gan Mao Ling on a regular basis or I >> get out of body spells with weakness and strange dreamlike fragmented >> images. >> Michelle >> >> There seems to be a lot going on here TCM is based on Wholism Need >> more >>> information like the tongue color and BM, Fluid intake and expulsion, >>> any edema? Constipation? SOB or shallow breathing? Any other pain or >>> headaches? >>> >>> Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: Hi, >>> I have high blood pressure from depleted yin. I have had it for 11 >>> years. I am very exhausted after caretaking my dying husband (died >>> 11/11/2005)and various other major crises in the past ten years. I >>> have no motivation to do anything and little desire to be on the >>> planet. My spleen and uterus have been removed. I have benign liver >>> disease (spots on the liver). At one time I had a ruptured spleen for >>> four years that 'crawled around' trying to seal itself on various >>> organs: diaphram, stomach etc. >>> I have a feeling that there are tonics that could help. >>> Thanks, >>> Michelle >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Where there is pain there is stagnation of qi and if there is no pain >>> then there is no qi stagnation >>> >>> >>> Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. >>> Try the free Mail Beta. >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 Although I can empathize with your situation. It is important to have actual contact with the person giving the advice. I am actually giving you the best advice there is in any given situation. Although they are natural herbs are drugs and have reactions as well as benefits. If you are not getting what you need from that acupuncturist at this time in your life then try another one and see if their energy is better for you in this time in your life and in reference to your needs. I am more than sure if it was a long process and grief that you have kidney and lung deficiency which are affecting other parts of your body but of course I can see or observe or touch or listen to you all of which are important in chinese medicine. My apologies if you are dissatisfied with my advise I do want to help you. But I will not put you in harms way by offering advice that I can't support with diagnostic reasons. Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: >Doctors have found nothing, I am seeing a licensed accupumcturist and herbalist. Accupuncture did something for me during my husband's illness but isn't worth the cost now as I experience nothing. I want more input than my (wonderful) accu/herbalist provides. I wonder why some people on the list get helpful hints and I always get " see a doctor'. it is frustrating. Michelle As for tonics they are very cloying and it seems like your shen has no > root, Lung yin and qi deficiency. But you need to do two things and > neither are self medicate. > 1. See a doctor > 2. See a licensed Acupuncturist and herbalist. > > > Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: > >normal tongue color and generally not a lot of coating. > Scalloped tongue. > Shallow breathing. Usually feel dehydrated and no matter how much I > drink can't hydrate, but drink coffee, I know that contributes to the > dehydration a lot. I drink a lot of tea and some just warm water. I > drink a lot of water too. If it is chilled I can get chills. I am damp > and on the cold side. I live in the cold damp Pacific Northwest of US. > No edema or constipation. Digestive troubles. Take enzymes. Magnesium. > Sometimes get headaches. I take Gan Mao Ling on a regular basis or I get > out of body spells with weakness and strange dreamlike fragmented > images. > Michelle > > There seems to be a lot going on here TCM is based on Wholism Need more >> information like the tongue color and BM, Fluid intake and expulsion, >> any edema? Constipation? SOB or shallow breathing? Any other pain or >> headaches? >> >> Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: Hi, >> I have high blood pressure from depleted yin. I have had it for 11 >> years. I am very exhausted after caretaking my dying husband (died >> 11/11/2005)and various other major crises in the past ten years. I >> have no motivation to do anything and little desire to be on the >> planet. My spleen and uterus have been removed. I have benign liver >> disease (spots on the liver). At one time I had a ruptured spleen for >> four years that 'crawled around' trying to seal itself on various >> organs: diaphram, stomach etc. >> I have a feeling that there are tonics that could help. >> Thanks, >> Michelle >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Where there is pain there is stagnation of qi and if there is no pain >> then there is no qi stagnation >> >> >> Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. >> Try the free Mail Beta. >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 >Thanks. I go to her on a regular basis and the last time I saw her was a little over a week ago. I have been seeing her for over a year. It is the slowness/lack of my improvement that drives me to ask here. that depends on what you are tonifying, Chicken and duck is yin. There > is a website for Kamwo with different recipes for soups that are > nourishing > www.kamwo.com > go to the section for soups. > When was the last time you saw your Oriental medicine practitioner? > You need to go on a regular basis to resolve this situation. > > Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: > > Thanks, > I didn't realize it was considered " hot " . My accu/herbalist did mention > it being grounding. I have read that pork and beef are good for the > depleted person. > Michelle > > because beef is a hot food and you have internal cold, it is also very >> grounding >> >> Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: >beef steak >> helps keep the out of body stuff at bay. Michelle >> >>>normal tongue color and generally not a lot of coating. Scalloped >>>> tongue. >>> Shallow breathing. Usually feel dehydrated and no matter how much I >>> drink can't hydrate, but drink coffee, I know that contributes to the >>> dehydration a lot. I drink a lot of tea and some just warm water. I >>> drink a lot of water too. If it is chilled I can get chills. I am >>> damp and on the cold side. I live in the cold damp Pacific Northwest >>> of US. No edema or constipation. Digestive troubles. Take enzymes. >>> Magnesium. Sometimes get headaches. I take Gan Mao Ling on a regular >>> basis or I get out of body spells with weakness and strange dreamlike >>> fragmented images. >>> Michelle >>> >>> There seems to be a lot going on here TCM is based on Wholism Need >>> more >>>> information like the tongue color and BM, Fluid intake and >>>> expulsion, any edema? Constipation? SOB or shallow breathing? Any >>>> other pain or headaches? >>>> >>>> Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: Hi, >>>> I have high blood pressure from depleted yin. I have had it for 11 >>>> years. I am very exhausted after caretaking my dying husband (died >>>> 11/11/2005)and various other major crises in the past ten years. I >>>> have no motivation to do anything and little desire to be on the >>>> planet. My spleen and uterus have been removed. I have benign liver >>>> disease (spots on the liver). At one time I had a ruptured spleen >>>> for four years that 'crawled around' trying to seal itself on >>>> various organs: diaphram, stomach etc. >>>> I have a feeling that there are tonics that could help. >>>> Thanks, >>>> Michelle >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Where there is pain there is stagnation of qi and if there is no >>>> pain then there is no qi stagnation >>>> >>>> >>>> Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. >>>> Try the free Mail Beta. >>>> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 >I understand, but i've been on this list a while and it seems ike every time I ask, I get either a complicated answer I can't understand or told to go to a doc. Other people actually get help. It has happened repeatedly and I just finally voiced my frustration. It isn't you. I appreciate your help. Thank you for extending yourself to help me. Michelle Although I can empathize with your situation. It is important to have > actual contact with the person giving the advice. I am actually giving > you the best advice there is in any given situation. Although they are > natural herbs are drugs and have reactions as well as benefits. If you > are not getting what you need from that acupuncturist at this time in > your life then try another one and see if their energy is better for you > in this time in your life and in reference to your needs. I am more than > sure if it was a long process and grief that you have kidney and lung > deficiency which are affecting other parts of your body but of course I > can see or observe or touch or listen to you all of which are important > in chinese medicine. My apologies if you are dissatisfied with my advise > I do want to help you. But I will not put you in harms way by offering > advice that I can't support with diagnostic reasons. > > > Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: > >Doctors have found nothing, I am seeing a licensed > accupumcturist and > herbalist. Accupuncture did something for me during my husband's illness > but isn't worth the cost now as I experience nothing. I want more input > than my (wonderful) accu/herbalist provides. I wonder why some people on > the list get helpful hints and I always get " see a doctor'. it is > frustrating. > Michelle > > As for tonics they are very cloying and it seems like your shen has no >> root, Lung yin and qi deficiency. But you need to do two things and >> neither are self medicate. >> 1. See a doctor >> 2. See a licensed Acupuncturist and herbalist. >> >> >> Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: >> >normal tongue color and generally not a lot of coating. >> Scalloped tongue. >> Shallow breathing. Usually feel dehydrated and no matter how much I >> drink can't hydrate, but drink coffee, I know that contributes to the >> dehydration a lot. I drink a lot of tea and some just warm water. I >> drink a lot of water too. If it is chilled I can get chills. I am damp >> and on the cold side. I live in the cold damp Pacific Northwest of US. >> No edema or constipation. Digestive troubles. Take enzymes. Magnesium. >> Sometimes get headaches. I take Gan Mao Ling on a regular basis or I >> get out of body spells with weakness and strange dreamlike fragmented >> images. >> Michelle >> >> There seems to be a lot going on here TCM is based on Wholism Need >> more >>> information like the tongue color and BM, Fluid intake and expulsion, >>> any edema? Constipation? SOB or shallow breathing? Any other pain or >>> headaches? >>> >>> Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: Hi, >>> I have high blood pressure from depleted yin. I have had it for 11 >>> years. I am very exhausted after caretaking my dying husband (died >>> 11/11/2005)and various other major crises in the past ten years. I >>> have no motivation to do anything and little desire to be on the >>> planet. My spleen and uterus have been removed. I have benign liver >>> disease (spots on the liver). At one time I had a ruptured spleen for >>> four years that 'crawled around' trying to seal itself on various >>> organs: diaphram, stomach etc. >>> I have a feeling that there are tonics that could help. >>> Thanks, >>> Michelle >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Where there is pain there is stagnation of qi and if there is no pain >>> then there is no qi stagnation >>> >>> >>> Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. >>> Try the free Mail Beta. >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 Chinese medicine takes time but if there is no improvement then another strategy needs to be approach confide in her your concerns and let her know that it is not working. But make sure that you follow her instructions in reference to diet, exercise, meditation and lifestyle. There are part of healing and if you consult the Taoist and Tibetan medicine theories these would be dealt with before any needle or herb was prescribed. Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: >Thanks. I go to her on a regular basis and the last time I saw her was a little over a week ago. I have been seeing her for over a year. It is the slowness/lack of my improvement that drives me to ask here. that depends on what you are tonifying, Chicken and duck is yin. There > is a website for Kamwo with different recipes for soups that are > nourishing > www.kamwo.com > go to the section for soups. > When was the last time you saw your Oriental medicine practitioner? > You need to go on a regular basis to resolve this situation. > > Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: > > Thanks, > I didn't realize it was considered " hot " . My accu/herbalist did mention > it being grounding. I have read that pork and beef are good for the > depleted person. > Michelle > > because beef is a hot food and you have internal cold, it is also very >> grounding >> >> Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: >beef steak >> helps keep the out of body stuff at bay. Michelle >> >>>normal tongue color and generally not a lot of coating. Scalloped >>>> tongue. >>> Shallow breathing. Usually feel dehydrated and no matter how much I >>> drink can't hydrate, but drink coffee, I know that contributes to the >>> dehydration a lot. I drink a lot of tea and some just warm water. I >>> drink a lot of water too. If it is chilled I can get chills. I am >>> damp and on the cold side. I live in the cold damp Pacific Northwest >>> of US. No edema or constipation. Digestive troubles. Take enzymes. >>> Magnesium. Sometimes get headaches. I take Gan Mao Ling on a regular >>> basis or I get out of body spells with weakness and strange dreamlike >>> fragmented images. >>> Michelle >>> >>> There seems to be a lot going on here TCM is based on Wholism Need >>> more >>>> information like the tongue color and BM, Fluid intake and >>>> expulsion, any edema? Constipation? SOB or shallow breathing? Any >>>> other pain or headaches? >>>> >>>> Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: Hi, >>>> I have high blood pressure from depleted yin. I have had it for 11 >>>> years. I am very exhausted after caretaking my dying husband (died >>>> 11/11/2005)and various other major crises in the past ten years. I >>>> have no motivation to do anything and little desire to be on the >>>> planet. My spleen and uterus have been removed. I have benign liver >>>> disease (spots on the liver). At one time I had a ruptured spleen >>>> for four years that 'crawled around' trying to seal itself on >>>> various organs: diaphram, stomach etc. >>>> I have a feeling that there are tonics that could help. >>>> Thanks, >>>> Michelle >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Where there is pain there is stagnation of qi and if there is no >>>> pain then there is no qi stagnation >>>> >>>> >>>> Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. >>>> Try the free Mail Beta. >>>> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 You are welcome. But remember you and your practitioner have to work as a team and communication is a big part of that teamwork success. Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: >I understand, but i've been on this list a while and it seems ike every time I ask, I get either a complicated answer I can't understand or told to go to a doc. Other people actually get help. It has happened repeatedly and I just finally voiced my frustration. It isn't you. I appreciate your help. Thank you for extending yourself to help me. Michelle Although I can empathize with your situation. It is important to have > actual contact with the person giving the advice. I am actually giving > you the best advice there is in any given situation. Although they are > natural herbs are drugs and have reactions as well as benefits. If you > are not getting what you need from that acupuncturist at this time in > your life then try another one and see if their energy is better for you > in this time in your life and in reference to your needs. I am more than > sure if it was a long process and grief that you have kidney and lung > deficiency which are affecting other parts of your body but of course I > can see or observe or touch or listen to you all of which are important > in chinese medicine. My apologies if you are dissatisfied with my advise > I do want to help you. But I will not put you in harms way by offering > advice that I can't support with diagnostic reasons. > > > Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: > >Doctors have found nothing, I am seeing a licensed > accupumcturist and > herbalist. Accupuncture did something for me during my husband's illness > but isn't worth the cost now as I experience nothing. I want more input > than my (wonderful) accu/herbalist provides. I wonder why some people on > the list get helpful hints and I always get " see a doctor'. it is > frustrating. > Michelle > > As for tonics they are very cloying and it seems like your shen has no >> root, Lung yin and qi deficiency. But you need to do two things and >> neither are self medicate. >> 1. See a doctor >> 2. See a licensed Acupuncturist and herbalist. >> >> >> Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: >> >normal tongue color and generally not a lot of coating. >> Scalloped tongue. >> Shallow breathing. Usually feel dehydrated and no matter how much I >> drink can't hydrate, but drink coffee, I know that contributes to the >> dehydration a lot. I drink a lot of tea and some just warm water. I >> drink a lot of water too. If it is chilled I can get chills. I am damp >> and on the cold side. I live in the cold damp Pacific Northwest of US. >> No edema or constipation. Digestive troubles. Take enzymes. Magnesium. >> Sometimes get headaches. I take Gan Mao Ling on a regular basis or I >> get out of body spells with weakness and strange dreamlike fragmented >> images. >> Michelle >> >> There seems to be a lot going on here TCM is based on Wholism Need >> more >>> information like the tongue color and BM, Fluid intake and expulsion, >>> any edema? Constipation? SOB or shallow breathing? Any other pain or >>> headaches? >>> >>> Michelle Clark <michellec wrote: Hi, >>> I have high blood pressure from depleted yin. I have had it for 11 >>> years. I am very exhausted after caretaking my dying husband (died >>> 11/11/2005)and various other major crises in the past ten years. I >>> have no motivation to do anything and little desire to be on the >>> planet. My spleen and uterus have been removed. I have benign liver >>> disease (spots on the liver). At one time I had a ruptured spleen for >>> four years that 'crawled around' trying to seal itself on various >>> organs: diaphram, stomach etc. >>> I have a feeling that there are tonics that could help. >>> Thanks, >>> Michelle >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Where there is pain there is stagnation of qi and if there is no pain >>> then there is no qi stagnation >>> >>> >>> Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. >>> Try the free Mail Beta. >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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