Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Donna- Kiiko has a tx done on the right side of the body for hepatitis. John Garbarini --- Donna <acupunc99 wrote: > Greetings! I've just joined this group and am > wondering if anyone > has information on treating Hepatitis C. I > understand that the > Gateway Clinic in London has done quite a bit of > work in this area, > including research. Any help would be greatly > appreciated. Thanks. > > > > _______________________________ Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Misha Cohen has a comprehensive hepatitis C certification program for those serious about learning how to treat this disorder. She learned about treating this problem in the work she has done treating AIDS as hepatitis C is such a common disorder in AIDS patients. Her web site is www.docmisha.com - Matt Bauer - John Garbarini Chinese Medicine Monday, September 13, 2004 6:03 PM Re: Hepatitis C Donna- Kiiko has a tx done on the right side of the body for hepatitis. John Garbarini --- Donna <acupunc99 wrote: > Greetings! I've just joined this group and am > wondering if anyone > has information on treating Hepatitis C. I > understand that the > Gateway Clinic in London has done quite a bit of > work in this area, > including research. Any help would be greatly > appreciated. Thanks. > > > > _______________________________ Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote. http://babel.altavista.com/ and adjust accordingly. If you , it takes a few days for the messages to stop being delivered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 The herbal treatments vary quite a bit depending on what the presenting symptoms are, how far it's progressed, which organ systems are involved, how much damp, etc. I had a patient recently wanting treatment for hep C. He had fairly mild symptoms. Palpable slightly swollen liver with costal discomfort occasionally, tenderness at UB18/19, nodule along the spine at DU9, tight at GB34. And leads a fairly healthy lifestyle. viral load was low enough the western medicine wasn't sure they could treat it, and a strain that is mostly unresponsive. He has mild spleen signs, so it looked like lr qi yu / sp qi xu. So I put him on modified xiao yao wan with sheng di, ban lan gen, and wu wei zi. Sheng di and ban lan gen both get mention in bensky to be effective against hep c virus (don't know which strain), and wu wei zi treats the swollen liver. I thought wu wei zi might also help balance out the cold dispersive nature of ban lan gen. Unfortunately he didn't stay in treatment long enough to see if it would work or not. Milk thistle gets alot of attention. From what I've read the active ingredient is not water soluble, so I didn't know that adding it as a granular would be effective or not. So I told him to take one of the supplement forms that specifically extract it. Does anyone else have any thoughts on this? I did see a study some time ago about a woman with a mild case of hep c who took a decoction of 30g of wu wei zi every day for one month (eat the herbs after decocting them and drink the tea), and all symptoms disappeared and liver function restored to normal. There wasn't a mention of the viral load afterwards. --brian > > > Greetings! I've just joined this group and am > > wondering if anyone > > has information on treating Hepatitis C. I > > understand that the > > Gateway Clinic in London has done quite a bit of > > work in this area, > > including research. Any help would be greatly > > appreciated. Thanks. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Hey Attilio, I'm not sure if this is what you want but I just came across this from a TCM practitioner. (I don't know him) http://www.alchemistlab.com/Alchemist-article1.pdf http://www.alchemistlab.com/hepatitisC5.html Elie Directory http://www.tcmdirectory.com Chinese Medicine , " Attilio D'Alberto " <attiliodalberto wrote: > > Hi all, > > Does anyone know any good quality research papers that use a Chinese herb to > treat hepatitis C? > > Kind regards, > > Attilio D'Alberto > Doctor of (Beijing, China) > BSc (Hons) TCM MBAcC > Editor > Times > +44 (0) 1189 612512 > enquiries > <http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/> www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > <http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/forum/index.php> > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/forum/index.php > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Attilio, I did a Google search and used some info that I am familiar with to give you some results. I finally got Dr. Kim Bonghan's original channel text scanned on pdf but am unable to email due to large size. Any ideas on getting this posted for all's benefit? Here are the links for hep c: http://www.itmonline.org/arts/oxymatrine.htm http://www.itmonline.org/arts/hepc2k1.htm www.docmisha.com/pdf/chinese_medicine_hcv_cohen.pdf http://www.hepatitis-c.de/herbal.htm http://www.honsousa.com/news/News_UCSD%20Liver%20Ctr.htm http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/2270.cfm?IRBNO=02-073 Hope this works. Mike W. Bowser, L Ac Chinese Medicine ; : attiliodalberto: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:52:54 +0100Hepatitis C Hi all,Does anyone know any good quality research papers that use a Chinese herb totreat hepatitis C?Kind regards,Attilio D'AlbertoDoctor of (Beijing, China)BSc (Hons) TCM MBAcCEditor Times+44 (0) 1189 612512enquiries<http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/> www.chinesemedicinetimes.com <http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/forum/index.php>www.chinesemedicinetimes.co\ m/forum/index.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 Mike, Thanks for the links, i'll check them out. Re Dr Kim: If it's a pdf document and too big for this forum (the documents folder is nearly full), then upload it to the CMT forum by attaching it to a message: www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/forum/index.php If it's a scanned image of a pdf document, then put it into a jpeg/jpg/gif format and upload it to the files section of this forum. Attilio Editor Times +44 (0) 1189 612512 enquiries www.chinesemedicinetimes.com www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/forum/index.php Chinese Medicine , mike Bowser <naturaldoc1 wrote: > > Attilio, > > I did a Google search and used some info that I am familiar with to give you some results. I finally > got Dr. Kim Bonghan's original channel text scanned on pdf but am unable to email due to large size. Any > ideas on getting this posted for all's benefit? > > Here are the links for hep c: > http://www.itmonline.org/arts/oxymatrine.htm > http://www.itmonline.org/arts/hepc2k1.htm > www.docmisha.com/pdf/chinese_medicine_hcv_cohen.pdf > http://www.hepatitis-c.de/herbal.htm > http://www.honsousa.com/news/News_UCSD%20Liver%20Ctr.htm > http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/2270.cfm?IRBNO=02-073 > Hope this works. > Mike W. Bowser, L Ac > > > Chinese Medicine ; : attiliodalberto: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:52:54 +0100Hepatitis C > > > > > Hi all,Does anyone know any good quality research papers that use a Chinese herb totreat hepatitis C?Kind regards,Attilio D'AlbertoDoctor of (Beijing, China)BSc (Hons) TCM MBAcCEditorChinese Medicine Times+44 (0) 1189 612512enquiries<http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/> www.chinesemedicinetimes.com <http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/forum/index.php>www.chinesemedici netimes.com/forum/index.php [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > _______________ > Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger > http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en- us & source=wlmailtagline > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Hello, I might start helping someone look into reversing their Hepatitis C. I would like information on the protocols that you guys use or have heard about. I don't know much at this time except he has had conventional treatments which he has chosen not to have anymore because they leave him practically dead. His enzyme levels are at 3. He is at times forgetting things. I know little about H C but have read about some treatments which look very promosing in " at the least " raising his QOL if not seriously helping him out. Thanks, Aaron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Hi Aaron, Have him look at the following protocol for Hepatitis C: /Hepatitis_Protocol.htm You will notice that the protocol includes Sutherlandia OPC. However, a new product has come out on the market which contains 100% oleander by the name of Rose Laurel OPC Plus and Utopia Silver is the sole distributor in the United States. Although Sutherlandia OPC has been very effective against Hepatitis C, the added amount of oleander in Rose Laurel OPC Plus gives this supplement an extra boost, making it more effective. Keep in mind though, that the manufacturer of this product is none other than Marc Swanepoel in South Africa. My very best, oleander soup , "amagewick" <amagewick wrote:>> Hello,> > I might start helping someone look into reversing their Hepatitis C. I would like information on the protocols that you guys use or have heard about. I don't know much at this time except he has had conventional treatments which he has chosen not to have anymore because they leave him practically dead. His enzyme levels are at 3. He is at times forgetting things. I know little about H C but have read about some treatments which look very promosing in "at the least" raising his QOL if not seriously helping him out.> > Thanks,> Aaron> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Oops! I forgot to mention...... by using coupon code LR001, he will receive a 15% discount. oleander soup , " M" <luellamay129 wrote:>> > Hi Aaron,> > Have him look at the following protocol for Hepatitis C:> > > /Hepatitis_Protocol.htm> </Hepatitis_Protocol.htm>> > You will notice that the protocol includes Sutherlandia OPC. However, a> new product has come out on the market which contains 100% oleander by> the name of Rose Laurel OPC Plus and Utopia Silver > <http://www.utopiasilver.com/affiliates/jrox.php?id=77> is the sole> distributor in the United States. Although Sutherlandia OPC has been> very effective against Hepatitis C, the added amount of oleander in Rose> Laurel OPC Plus gives this supplement an extra boost, making it more> effective. Keep in mind though, that the manufacturer of this product> is none other than Marc Swanepoel in South Africa.> > My very best,> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Oleander, colloidal silver and the herb mixture in the following article are pretty much 100% effective. Be sure to take extra measures to protect, cleanse and regenerate the liver. Beating Hepatitis Naturally - A Complete Protocol All the best, oleander soup , "amagewick" <amagewick wrote:>> Hello,> > I might start helping someone look into reversing their Hepatitis C. I would like information on the protocols that you guys use or have heard about. I don't know much at this time except he has had conventional treatments which he has chosen not to have anymore because they leave him practically dead. His enzyme levels are at 3. He is at times forgetting things. I know little about H C but have read about some treatments which look very promosing in "at the least" raising his QOL if not seriously helping him out.> > Thanks,> Aaron> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Thank you so very much for the info so far. Even if he decides not to do it (although I will insist that he read about this) I now know more about the almighty Oleander. He hasn't responded back to me so we will see if he even wants my help. He is a good friend of my dad and my dad is really worrying, so maybe I can use that as leverage too if he is skeptical . Thanks again. oleander soup , "" wrote: > > > Oleander, colloidal silver and the herb mixture in the following article > are pretty much 100% effective. Be sure to take extra measures to > protect, cleanse and regenerate the liver. > > Beating Hepatitis Naturally - A Complete Protocol > </Hepatitis_Protocol.htm> > > All the best, > > > > oleander soup , " amagewick " <amagewick@> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I might start helping someone look into reversing their Hepatitis C. I > would like information on the protocols that you guys use or have heard > about. I don't know much at this time except he has had conventional > treatments which he has chosen not to have anymore because they leave > him practically dead. His enzyme levels are at 3. He is at times > forgetting things. I know little about H C but have read about some > treatments which look very promosing in " at the least " raising his QOL > if not seriously helping him out. > > > > Thanks, > > Aaron > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Will coconut oil offer any benefits in killing the virus and supporting the liver with this treatment?? oleander soup , " amagewick " <amagewick wrote: > > Thank you so very much for the info so far. Even if he decides not to do it (although I will insist that he read about this) I now know more about the almighty Oleander. He hasn't responded back to me so we will see if he even wants my help. He is a good friend of my dad and my dad is really worrying, so maybe I can use that as leverage too if he is skeptical . Thanks again. > > oleander soup , "" @> wrote: > > > > > > Oleander, colloidal silver and the herb mixture in the following article > > are pretty much 100% effective. Be sure to take extra measures to > > protect, cleanse and regenerate the liver. > > > > Beating Hepatitis Naturally - A Complete Protocol > > </Hepatitis_Protocol.htm> > > > > All the best, > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " amagewick " <amagewick@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I might start helping someone look into reversing their Hepatitis C. I > > would like information on the protocols that you guys use or have heard > > about. I don't know much at this time except he has had conventional > > treatments which he has chosen not to have anymore because they leave > > him practically dead. His enzyme levels are at 3. He is at times > > forgetting things. I know little about H C but have read about some > > treatments which look very promosing in " at the least " raising his QOL > > if not seriously helping him out. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Aaron > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 Yes it will help and is a very healthful addition for anyone. It also helps keep the bile ducts open and flowing, which is critical for liver health and removal of toxins. I take coconut oil daily, often using it to lightly scramble brown organic free range eggs to which we add brocolli, squash, zuchinni, garlic and sometimes a bit of cayenne. Those eggs, a half a Thomasville whole wheat muffin with coconut oil instead of butter or margarine, sometimes a dab of organic honey, some sliced tomatoes with Himilayan sea salt, slice of cantaloupe or watermelon or some blueberries, glass of raw goats milk and a glass of high pulp orange juice with my daily iodine and a selenium tablet on the side, make for a healthlicious breakfast. Oink! All the best, oleander soup , "amagewick" <amagewick wrote:>> Will coconut oil offer any benefits in killing the virus and supporting the liver with this treatment??> > oleander soup , "amagewick" amagewick@ wrote:> >> > Thank you so very much for the info so far. Even if he decides not to do it (although I will insist that he read about this) I now know more about the almighty Oleander. He hasn't responded back to me so we will see if he even wants my help. He is a good friend of my dad and my dad is really worrying, so maybe I can use that as leverage too if he is skeptical . Thanks again.> > > > oleander soup , "TonyI" @> wrote:> > >> > > > > > Oleander, colloidal silver and the herb mixture in the following article> > > are pretty much 100% effective. Be sure to take extra measures to> > > protect, cleanse and regenerate the liver.> > > > > > Beating Hepatitis Naturally - A Complete Protocol> > > </Hepatitis_Protocol.htm>> > > > > > All the best,> > > > > > Tony> > > > > > oleander soup , "amagewick" <amagewick@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Hello,> > > >> > > > I might start helping someone look into reversing their Hepatitis C. I> > > would like information on the protocols that you guys use or have heard> > > about. I don't know much at this time except he has had conventional> > > treatments which he has chosen not to have anymore because they leave> > > him practically dead. His enzyme levels are at 3. He is at times> > > forgetting things. I know little about H C but have read about some> > > treatments which look very promosing in "at the least" raising his QOL> > > if not seriously helping him out.> > > >> > > > Thanks,> > > > Aaron> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 YUMMMMMMMM Where do you find raw goats milk these days? New Jersey has bought up and killed that industry here in NJ In a message dated 9/24/2009 11:21:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, writes: Yes it will help and is a very healthful addition for anyone. It also helps keep the bile ducts open and flowing, which is critical for liver health and removal of toxins. I take coconut oil daily, often using it to lightly scramble brown organic free range eggs to which we add brocolli, squash, zuchinni, garlic and sometimes a bit of cayenne. Those eggs, a half a Thomasville whole wheat muffin with coconut oil instead of butter or margarine, sometimes a dab of organic honey, some sliced tomatoes with Himilayan sea salt, slice of cantaloupe or watermelon or some blueberries, glass of raw goats milk and a glass of high pulp orange juice with my daily iodine and a selenium tablet on the side, make for a healthlicious breakfast. Oink! All the best, oleander soup , "amagewick" <amagewick wrote:>> Will coconut oil offer any benefits in killing the virus and supporting the liver with this treatment??> > oleander soup , "amagewick" amagewick@ wrote:> >> > Thank you so very much for the info so far. Even if he decides not to do it (although I will insist that he read about this) I now know more about the almighty Oleander. He hasn't responded back to me so we will see if he even wants my help. He is a good friend of my dad and my dad is really worrying, so maybe I can use that as leverage too if he is skeptical . Thanks again.> > > > oleander soup , "TonyI" @> wrote:> > >> > > > > > Oleander, colloidal silver and the herb mixture in the following article> > > are pretty much 100% effective. Be sure to take extra measures to> > > protect, cleanse and regenerate the liver.> > > > > > Beating Hepatitis Naturally - A Complete Protocol> > > </Hepatitis_Protocol.htm>> > > > > > All the best,> > > > > > Tony> > > > > > oleander soup , "amagewick" <amagewick@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Hello,> > > >> > > > I might start helping someone look into reversing their Hepatitis C. I> > > would like information on the protocols that you guys use or have heard> > > about. I don't know much at this time except he has had conventional> > > treatments which he has chosen not to have anymore because they leave> > > him practically dead. His enzyme levels are at 3. He is at times> > > forgetting things. I know little about H C but have read about some> > & g t; treatments which look very promosing in "at the least" raising his QOL> > > if not seriously helping him out.> > > >> > > > Thanks,> > > > Aaron> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 TonyI wrote: > > > Oleander, colloidal silver and the herb mixture in the following article > are pretty much 100% effective. Be sure to take extra measures to > protect, cleanse and regenerate the liver. > > *Beating Hepatitis Naturally - A Complete Protocol* > </Hepatitis_Protocol.htm> > > All the best, > > > Tony, I researched for a couple years to find successful stories and facts about CS (and oleander) working on hepatitis c and could never find definite evidence. Your link doesn't provide this either. Could you point me to anything at all that shows it is effective? Even anecdotal evidence would work for me. I took large doses of CS for a year, it did reduce the viral load but did not wipe it out. I was just starting on the oleander soup when I was put on the allopathic medicine and might still be clear. I was clear at the end of TX and am about to do a 6 month test. If this combo really works I'd like to promote it but I can't just take your word for it. What did you base your article on? Consider that I will be posting this on a hep c group that will want evidence that this protocol works. They can be a rough bunch! Even in the article you admit it may not wipe it out. " The following protocol may never result in an individual testing negative for Hep-C (even if the virus is completely cleared it may take a long time for the antibodies that will trigger a positive test to ultimately disappear from the body); however, it will result in tiny viral loads all the way down to 0 and enable a person to live as healthily as someone who does not have hep-C, if not more so. " Cyndi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Cyndi - Numerous people have used oleander to control hep-C. As a matter of fact, the person who first devised the oleander extract known as "oleander soup", used it for his mother's stomach and liver cancer AND his sister's hep-C. She is in great health, a member of this group, btw, as well as a friend of mine and she is probably the most experienced "soup maker" in the US, having put on clinics for Mexican doctors and others and given away gallons of the stuff, including quite a bit to yours truly. Since Hep-C is viral in nature, the colloidal silver should also help. Use of both oleander and colloidal silver are definitely non-mainstream and one could easily search for evidence of their success against any number of items in vain. According to Dr. Ken O'neal, the use of quality digestive enzymes increases the effectiveness of colloidal silver against viruses because the enzymes strip away the protective outer coatings of the virus. Now, the herbal mixture that is also included in the suggested hep-C protocol has been used by itself to completely beat hep-C, along with a Rife frequency machine. You might want to contact CureZone member "boatman" for more information, or take a look at these two posts he made: http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1452023#i http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1018066 He notes 3 friends of his who have been clinically tested to be completely free of hep-c, and another 500 he knows with "happy livers". Like HIV and herpes, Hep-C can be a tricky virus to completely get rid of. It hides away, is hard to reach, goes dormant in some instances, and so I hedge my bets in ever saying that any number of measures will totally eliminate such a virus. I certainly believe it is possible though and I also believe that with the right protocol, life can be essentially as normal as it would be without the virus regardless of whether it has been completely eliminated. All the best, oleander soup , cyndiann <cyndiann9 wrote:>>wrote:> > > > > > Oleander, colloidal silver and the herb mixture in the following article > > are pretty much 100% effective. Be sure to take extra measures to > > protect, cleanse and regenerate the liver.> > > > *Beating Hepatitis Naturally - A Complete Protocol* > > </Hepatitis_Protocol.htm>> > > > All the best,> > > > Tony> >> > Tony, I researched for a couple years to find successful stories and > facts about CS (and oleander) working on hepatitis c and could never > find definite evidence. Your link doesn't provide this either. Could you > point me to anything at all that shows it is effective? Even anecdotal > evidence would work for me.> > I took large doses of CS for a year, it did reduce the viral load but > did not wipe it out. I was just starting on the oleander soup when I was > put on the allopathic medicine and might still be clear. I was clear at > the end of TX and am about to do a 6 month test. If this combo really > works I'd like to promote it but I can't just take your word for it. > What did you base your article on? Consider that I will be posting this > on a hep c group that will want evidence that this protocol works. They > can be a rough bunch!> > Even in the article you admit it may not wipe it out. "The following > protocol may never result in an individual testing negative for Hep-C > (even if the virus is completely cleared it may take a long time for the > antibodies that will trigger a positive test to ultimately disappear > from the body); however, it will result in tiny viral loads all the way > down to 0 and enable a person to live as healthily as someone who does > not have hep-C, if not more so. "> > Cyndi> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 RE:<<<I researched for a couple years to find successful stories and facts about CS (and oleander) working on hepatitis c and could never find definite evidence. .... Could you point me to anything at all that shows it is effective? Even anecdotal evidence would work for me.>>> I have an anecdotal story for you - 2nd hand tho... I met someone whose friend had Hepatitis C and also Chronic Fatigue. He used the Robert Beck zapper for blood purifying - one hour a day for six weeks, and it completely cured him of both health problems. This guy said it was amazing as he had always thought his friend's eyes were brown, but after the six weeks they were blue and the sclera's nice and white too. regards Kirsty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 I have used the formula from fla, that combines the many herbs, it does go for around $22.00 per bag and its awesome. I was trying to address my out of control moods and the lady i talked to on the phone promised me it would help. Well it did and I do feel that its working for my hep-c. I also use dr shultze's green formula and collidal silver. I just put it in when i juice beets carrots and apples every morn. its really gross but its better than dying. sometimes i have bad pains in my liver certain foods will set it off i have been able to eliminate the pains entirely by using peroxide. within a half hour they always go away. I love that stuff. I also use the oleander on occasion, I wish it wasnt so costly. Tony I follow your protocol but not religiously, healing i believe is 50% lifestyle of what you put in your body with foods. i always juice in the morn and limit the sugar and red meat. Im torn on the flax though there is much controversy on the subject and I was more recently told again that it was bad. Sometimes factual information is debateable by experts. oleander soup , "" wrote: > > > Cyndi - > > Numerous people have used oleander to control hep-C. As a matter of > fact, the person who first devised the oleander extract known as > " oleander soup " , used it for his mother's stomach and liver cancer AND > his sister's hep-C. She is in great health, a member of this group, > btw, as well as a friend of mine and she is probably the most > experienced " soup maker " in the US, having put on clinics for Mexican > doctors and others and given away gallons of the stuff, including quite > a bit to yours truly. > > Since Hep-C is viral in nature, the colloidal silver should also help. > Use of both oleander and colloidal silver are definitely non-mainstream > and one could easily search for evidence of their success against any > number of items in vain. According to Dr. Ken O'neal, the use of > quality digestive enzymes increases the effectiveness of colloidal > silver against viruses because the enzymes strip away the protective > outer coatings of the virus. > > Now, the herbal mixture that is also included in the suggested hep-C > protocol has been used by itself to completely beat hep-C, along with a > Rife frequency machine. You might want to contact CureZone member > " boatman " for more information, or take a look at these two posts he > made: > > http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1452023#i > <http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1452023#i> > > http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1018066 > <http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1018066> > > He notes 3 friends of his who have been clinically tested to be > completely free of hep-c, and another 500 he knows with " happy livers " . > > Like HIV and herpes, Hep-C can be a tricky virus to completely get rid > of. It hides away, is hard to reach, goes dormant in some instances, > and so I hedge my bets in ever saying that any number of measures will > totally eliminate such a virus. I certainly believe it is possible > though and I also believe that with the right protocol, life can be > essentially as normal as it would be without the virus regardless of > whether it has been completely eliminated. > > All the best, > > > > > oleander soup , cyndiann <cyndiann9@> wrote: > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > Oleander, colloidal silver and the herb mixture in the following > article > > > are pretty much 100% effective. Be sure to take extra measures to > > > protect, cleanse and regenerate the liver. > > > > > > *Beating Hepatitis Naturally - A Complete Protocol* > > > </Hepatitis_Protocol.htm> > > > > > > All the best, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tony, I researched for a couple years to find successful stories and > > facts about CS (and oleander) working on hepatitis c and could never > > find definite evidence. Your link doesn't provide this either. Could > you > > point me to anything at all that shows it is effective? Even anecdotal > > evidence would work for me. > > > > I took large doses of CS for a year, it did reduce the viral load but > > did not wipe it out. I was just starting on the oleander soup when I > was > > put on the allopathic medicine and might still be clear. I was clear > at > > the end of TX and am about to do a 6 month test. If this combo really > > works I'd like to promote it but I can't just take your word for it. > > What did you base your article on? Consider that I will be posting > this > > on a hep c group that will want evidence that this protocol works. > They > > can be a rough bunch! > > > > Even in the article you admit it may not wipe it out. " The following > > protocol may never result in an individual testing negative for Hep-C > > (even if the virus is completely cleared it may take a long time for > the > > antibodies that will trigger a positive test to ultimately disappear > > from the body); however, it will result in tiny viral loads all the > way > > down to 0 and enable a person to live as healthily as someone who does > > not have hep-C, if not more so. " > > > > Cyndi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Hi Brenda, You mentioned in your post that you take peroxide when having liver pains. Can you please tell me how you take it and what kind and strength. I too suffer from liver pains when eating certain foods. Thanks a lot Maria oleander soup , " joreine4655 " <brenda_peterson wrote: > > I have used the formula from fla, that combines the many herbs, it does go for around $22.00 per bag and its awesome. I was trying to address my out of control moods and the lady i talked to on the phone promised me it would help. Well it did and I do feel that its working for my hep-c. I also use dr shultze's green formula and collidal silver. I just put it in when i juice beets carrots and apples every morn. its really gross but its better than dying. sometimes i have bad pains in my liver certain foods will set it off i have been able to eliminate the pains entirely by using peroxide. within a half hour they always go away. I love that stuff. I also use the oleander on occasion, I wish it wasnt so costly. Tony I follow your protocol but not religiously, healing i believe is 50% lifestyle of what you put in your body with foods. i always juice in the morn and limit the sugar and red meat. Im torn on the flax though there is much controversy on the subject and I was more recently told again that it was bad. Sometimes factual information is debateable by experts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Tony, VCO also removes protective covering of virus so with CS ingestion, it may help with Hep C. Melly oleander soup , " joreine4655 " <brenda_peterson wrote: > > I have used the formula from fla, that combines the many herbs, it does go for around $22.00 per bag and its awesome. I was trying to address my out of control moods and the lady i talked to on the phone promised me it would help. Well it did and I do feel that its working for my hep-c. I also use dr shultze's green formula and collidal silver. I just put it in when i juice beets carrots and apples every morn. its really gross but its better than dying. sometimes i have bad pains in my liver certain foods will set it off i have been able to eliminate the pains entirely by using peroxide. within a half hour they always go away. I love that stuff. I also use the oleander on occasion, I wish it wasnt so costly. Tony I follow your protocol but not religiously, healing i believe is 50% lifestyle of what you put in your body with foods. i always juice in the morn and limit the sugar and red meat. Im torn on the flax though there is much controversy on the subject and I was more recently told again that it was bad. Sometimes factual information is debateable by experts. > > oleander soup , "" @> wrote: > > > > > > Cyndi - > > > > Numerous people have used oleander to control hep-C. As a matter of > > fact, the person who first devised the oleander extract known as > > " oleander soup " , used it for his mother's stomach and liver cancer AND > > his sister's hep-C. She is in great health, a member of this group, > > btw, as well as a friend of mine and she is probably the most > > experienced " soup maker " in the US, having put on clinics for Mexican > > doctors and others and given away gallons of the stuff, including quite > > a bit to yours truly. > > > > Since Hep-C is viral in nature, the colloidal silver should also help. > > Use of both oleander and colloidal silver are definitely non-mainstream > > and one could easily search for evidence of their success against any > > number of items in vain. According to Dr. Ken O'neal, the use of > > quality digestive enzymes increases the effectiveness of colloidal > > silver against viruses because the enzymes strip away the protective > > outer coatings of the virus. > > > > Now, the herbal mixture that is also included in the suggested hep-C > > protocol has been used by itself to completely beat hep-C, along with a > > Rife frequency machine. You might want to contact CureZone member > > " boatman " for more information, or take a look at these two posts he > > made: > > > > http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1452023#i > > <http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1452023#i> > > > > http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1018066 > > <http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1018066> > > > > He notes 3 friends of his who have been clinically tested to be > > completely free of hep-c, and another 500 he knows with " happy livers " . > > > > Like HIV and herpes, Hep-C can be a tricky virus to completely get rid > > of. It hides away, is hard to reach, goes dormant in some instances, > > and so I hedge my bets in ever saying that any number of measures will > > totally eliminate such a virus. I certainly believe it is possible > > though and I also believe that with the right protocol, life can be > > essentially as normal as it would be without the virus regardless of > > whether it has been completely eliminated. > > > > All the best, > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , cyndiann <cyndiann9@> wrote: > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Oleander, colloidal silver and the herb mixture in the following > > article > > > > are pretty much 100% effective. Be sure to take extra measures to > > > > protect, cleanse and regenerate the liver. > > > > > > > > *Beating Hepatitis Naturally - A Complete Protocol* > > > > </Hepatitis_Protocol.htm> > > > > > > > > All the best, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tony, I researched for a couple years to find successful stories and > > > facts about CS (and oleander) working on hepatitis c and could never > > > find definite evidence. Your link doesn't provide this either. Could > > you > > > point me to anything at all that shows it is effective? Even anecdotal > > > evidence would work for me. > > > > > > I took large doses of CS for a year, it did reduce the viral load but > > > did not wipe it out. I was just starting on the oleander soup when I > > was > > > put on the allopathic medicine and might still be clear. I was clear > > at > > > the end of TX and am about to do a 6 month test. If this combo really > > > works I'd like to promote it but I can't just take your word for it. > > > What did you base your article on? Consider that I will be posting > > this > > > on a hep c group that will want evidence that this protocol works. > > They > > > can be a rough bunch! > > > > > > Even in the article you admit it may not wipe it out. " The following > > > protocol may never result in an individual testing negative for Hep-C > > > (even if the virus is completely cleared it may take a long time for > > the > > > antibodies that will trigger a positive test to ultimately disappear > > > from the body); however, it will result in tiny viral loads all the > > way > > > down to 0 and enable a person to live as healthily as someone who does > > > not have hep-C, if not more so. " > > > > > > Cyndi > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 I use 20 drops in purified water and drink it down. It has never failed me, and within 20 minutes the pain subsides. I dont take peroxide daily just when i feel I need it. Always afterwards it gets my kidneys working and i have to pee. I recommend you do as many drops as your comfortable with. they say you must work up to 20 drops but i have never had a problem with it. oleander soup , " rockjacks50 " <jg.hlss wrote: > > Hi Brenda, > > You mentioned in your post that you take peroxide when having liver pains. Can you please tell me how you take it and what kind and strength. I too suffer from liver pains when eating certain foods. > Thanks a lot > Maria > > oleander soup , " joreine4655 " <brenda_peterson@> wrote: > > > > I have used the formula from fla, that combines the many herbs, it does go for around $22.00 per bag and its awesome. I was trying to address my out of control moods and the lady i talked to on the phone promised me it would help. Well it did and I do feel that its working for my hep-c. I also use dr shultze's green formula and collidal silver. I just put it in when i juice beets carrots and apples every morn. its really gross but its better than dying. sometimes i have bad pains in my liver certain foods will set it off i have been able to eliminate the pains entirely by using peroxide. within a half hour they always go away. I love that stuff. I also use the oleander on occasion, I wish it wasnt so costly. Tony I follow your protocol but not religiously, healing i believe is 50% lifestyle of what you put in your body with foods. i always juice in the morn and limit the sugar and red meat. Im torn on the flax though there is much controversy on the subject and I was more recently told again that it was bad. Sometimes factual information is debateable by experts. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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