Last question : Liver flush package with pancreatic cancer?

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

My mother has pancreatic cancer(had things blocked, stent installed) and is

using blood thinning medication.

She seems to have pain at her liver, and it is bigger than usual - yet the

doctors say they dont see anything with xrays and other tests...

 

So it seems useless to simply " consult with your doctor " .

 

It may be a build up of toxins in her liver, following me giving

her good doses of a agaricus mushroom potent extract and zeolite supplement for

several weeks a bit prior to her problems..or jsut on her own

 

-Can one do the liver flush(liver flush package from baselinenutritionals for

example) if on blood thinning medication?

 

-Can she do the flush if she has pancreatic cancer, or absolutely not?

 

 

thanks!

[Guest guest]

I had an enlarged liver and a bit of pain myself. It took time, a

healthier diet, lechithin and GTF chromium to reduce it. I am sure

that years of eating less than optimally and a fondness for Crown Royal

in years past were big contributors for me. It was that less than

healthy diet and lifestyle, and the realization that I was not destined

to be young and immortal forever, which led me to begin investigating

natural health many years ago, which led in turn to extensive research

into cancer alternatives, my book and the formation of this group. And

I learn more practically every day.

 

If it were me, I might have some concerns over doing a quick, somewhat

harsher liver flush if there are bile duct stents. Perhaps a good idea

would be to first take the Baseline Nutritionals Stone Breaker product.

Be sure to read the description and cautions. And you might consider a

14 day liver cleanse instead of the faster one. In my opinion there is

no need to forego other supplements when taking a slower, gentler

cleanse.

 

I like the agaricus blazei murrill (ABM) mushroon, btw.

 

All the best,

 

 

 

oleander soup , " hologrammy2002 " <micfo07

wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> My mother has pancreatic cancer(had things blocked, stent installed)

and is using blood thinning medication.

> She seems to have pain at her liver, and it is bigger than usual - yet

the doctors say they dont see anything with xrays and other tests...

>

> So it seems useless to simply " consult with your doctor " .

>

> It may be a build up of toxins in her liver, following me giving

> her good doses of a agaricus mushroom potent extract and zeolite

supplement for several weeks a bit prior to her problems..or jsut on her

own

>

> -Can one do the liver flush(liver flush package from

baselinenutritionals for example) if on blood thinning medication?

>

> -Can she do the flush if she has pancreatic cancer, or absolutely not?

>

>

> thanks!

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tony,

great post : )

 

I have a new product i think youll really like.

I ll mention it at the end of the post..

 

So in your opinion youre sure that the stone breaker

product wont block her bile duct/duodenum/stents?

 

You say to use that stone breaker before taking the rest

of the liver flush package, but i think its already

the way its meant to be done..taking the stone breaker,

then the other ones.(although the other products remove waste from kidneys etc,

and this make me wary that all that crap could block

the duodenum, bile duct, or what not..)

 

-Where are the instructions for the 14 day cleanse?

 

So in your opinion, the stone breaker + 14 cleanse

would almost surely not result in blockages anywhere,

even if she had blockages and stents...?

 

I think we may go the budwig + oleander+ pancreatic route for a few weeks first,

then make a " life or death gamble " with stone

breaker + liver cleanse.. (alhtough not sure its ok to use

these products for a while before doing a liver cleanse, is it?..

 

Now..

 

-A product you may actually be blown away by...

....you know the agaricus mushroom, the most potent there is right..

.......but did you know that a company did a cross of 2 agaricus

into a super one that is 100 more potent?

 

Check out agarigold from the waiora.com company : )

(i like to give back when i can)

 

cheers!

Olivier

 

oleander soup , "" wrote:

>

>

> I had an enlarged liver and a bit of pain myself. It took time, a

> healthier diet, lechithin and GTF chromium to reduce it. I am sure

> that years of eating less than optimally and a fondness for Crown Royal

> in years past were big contributors for me. It was that less than

> healthy diet and lifestyle, and the realization that I was not destined

> to be young and immortal forever, which led me to begin investigating

> natural health many years ago, which led in turn to extensive research

> into cancer alternatives, my book and the formation of this group. And

> I learn more practically every day.

>

> If it were me, I might have some concerns over doing a quick, somewhat

> harsher liver flush if there are bile duct stents. Perhaps a good idea

> would be to first take the Baseline Nutritionals Stone Breaker product.

> Be sure to read the description and cautions. And you might consider a

> 14 day liver cleanse instead of the faster one. In my opinion there is

> no need to forego other supplements when taking a slower, gentler

> cleanse.

>

> I like the agaricus blazei murrill (ABM) mushroon, btw.

>

> All the best,

>

> >

>

> oleander soup , " hologrammy2002 " <micfo07@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > My mother has pancreatic cancer(had things blocked, stent installed)

> and is using blood thinning medication.

> > She seems to have pain at her liver, and it is bigger than usual - yet

> the doctors say they dont see anything with xrays and other tests...

> >

> > So it seems useless to simply " consult with your doctor " .

> >

> > It may be a build up of toxins in her liver, following me giving

> > her good doses of a agaricus mushroom potent extract and zeolite

> supplement for several weeks a bit prior to her problems..or jsut on her

> own

> >

> > -Can one do the liver flush(liver flush package from

> baselinenutritionals for example) if on blood thinning medication?

> >

> > -Can she do the flush if she has pancreatic cancer, or absolutely not?

> >

> >

> > thanks!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Olivier -

You know, I am not a doctor or a medical professional and I am not privy to your mother's exact condition, and so I really cannot predict with certainty or guarantee what effect anything might have on anybody. What I do is provide the best information and opinions I possibly can and then it is up to the individuals to do their own due diligence and decide what they wish to utilize for their health issues. In regards to your mothers bile, duodenum and stents, you are best advised to find a good naturopathic physician to advise you regarding the bile duct issue.

I think, and the key word is "think", that coffee enemas could help. And I know that stone breaker helps dissolve stones and so would normally be good for people to use prior to detoxes and cleanses, but that may or may not be advisable for your mother and only a professional who examines her and knows her condition could tell you.

I will say this though: some measures of protection and regeneration for the liver, and cleansing if at all possible, are essential.

If you would like to look at some slower acting and gentler cleanses, you might want to takea look at Whole Body Cleanse, Complete Liver Cleanse and Colon Klenz at the Utopia Silver section of my website's supplement catalog:

/Supplements.htm

Thanks for the information on the new agaricus mushroom - I will have to check it out.

Did you ever see my article on mushrooms?

Mushrooms that Fight Disease and Boost the Immune System

All the best,

oleander soup , "hologrammy2002" <micfo07 wrote:>> Hi Tony,> great post : )> > I have a new product i think youll really like.> I ll mention it at the end of the post..> > So in your opinion youre sure that the stone breaker> product wont block her bile duct/duodenum/stents?> > You say to use that stone breaker before taking the rest> of the liver flush package, but i think its already> the way its meant to be done..taking the stone breaker,> then the other ones.(although the other products remove waste from kidneys etc, and this make me wary that all that crap could block> the duodenum, bile duct, or what not..)> > -Where are the instructions for the 14 day cleanse?> > So in your opinion, the stone breaker + 14 cleanse> would almost surely not result in blockages anywhere,> even if she had blockages and stents...?> > I think we may go the budwig + oleander+ pancreatic route for a few weeks first, then make a "life or death gamble" with stone> breaker + liver cleanse.. (alhtough not sure its ok to use> these products for a while before doing a liver cleanse, is it?..> > Now..> > -A product you may actually be blown away by...> ...you know the agaricus mushroom, the most potent there is right..> ......but did you know that a company did a cross of 2 agaricus> into a super one that is 100 more potent?> > Check out agarigold from the waiora.com company : )> (i like to give back when i can)> > cheers!> Olivier> > oleander soup , "TonyI" @ wrote:> >> > > > I had an enlarged liver and a bit of pain myself. It took time, a> > healthier diet, lechithin and GTF chromium to reduce it. I am sure> > that years of eating less than optimally and a fondness for Crown Royal> > in years past were big contributors for me. It was that less than> > healthy diet and lifestyle, and the realization that I was not destined> > to be young and immortal forever, which led me to begin investigating> > natural health many years ago, which led in turn to extensive research> > into cancer alternatives, my book and the formation of this group. And> > I learn more practically every day.> > > > If it were me, I might have some concerns over doing a quick, somewhat> > harsher liver flush if there are bile duct stents. Perhaps a good idea> > would be to first take the Baseline Nutritionals Stone Breaker product. > > Be sure to read the description and cautions. And you might consider a> > 14 day liver cleanse instead of the faster one. In my opinion there is> > no need to forego other supplements when taking a slower, gentler> > cleanse.> > > > I like the agaricus blazei murrill (ABM) mushroon, btw.> > > > All the best,> > > > Tony> > > > > > oleander soup , "hologrammy2002" <micfo07@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Hi,> > >> > > My mother has pancreatic cancer(had things blocked, stent installed)> > and is using blood thinning medication.> > > She seems to have pain at her liver, and it is bigger than usual - yet> > the doctors say they dont see anything with xrays and other tests...> > >> > > So it seems useless to simply "consult with your doctor".> > >> > > It may be a build up of toxins in her liver, following me giving> > > her good doses of a agaricus mushroom potent extract and zeolite> > supplement for several weeks a bit prior to her problems..or jsut on her> > own> > >> > > -Can one do the liver flush(liver flush package from> > baselinenutritionals for example) if on blood thinning medication?> > >> > > -Can she do the flush if she has pancreatic cancer, or absolutely not?> > >> > >> > > thanks!> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tony,

Totally understandable that you cannot say things with certainty,

and yet, i want to thank you for this very good post as well.

 

You are extremely helpful.

And yes, do check that agarigold product.

Thanks for the article on mushroom,(and liver resources)

it just reenforces in my mind how this agarigold is...gold : )

 

Here i think anyone can be a naturopath, if im correct.

Which means i will check out who's out there, but

im not sure i'll rely on naturopath people.

 

There is a colleage of the Doc who did the surgeries on my mom,

that she can call anytime.

 

I will ask her about liver detox, flax seed oil etc.

But im fearful she may be a " by the book/dont use any of those

other things " person(i really want her to say flax seed oil is ok as i believe

in this so much, as well as liver detox), even if some of those things would be

alright.

 

Anyway,

we ll see...

 

 

I will have her take milk whistle and selenium for liver protection.

Hopefully thats good enough.

 

Thanks so much again.

You are a gem like you have no idea

 

Have a good weekend Tony, and everyone here

Olivier

 

oleander soup , "" wrote:

>

>

> Olivier -

>

> You know, I am not a doctor or a medical professional and I am not privy

> to your mother's exact condition, and so I really cannot predict with

> certainty or guarantee what effect anything might have on anybody. What

> I do is provide the best information and opinions I possibly can and

> then it is up to the individuals to do their own due diligence and

> decide what they wish to utilize for their health issues. In regards to

> your mothers bile, duodenum and stents, you are best advised to find a

> good naturopathic physician to advise you regarding the bile duct issue.

>

> I think, and the key word is " think " , that coffee enemas could help.

> And I know that stone breaker helps dissolve stones and so would

> normally be good for people to use prior to detoxes and cleanses, but

> that may or may not be advisable for your mother and only a professional

> who examines her and knows her condition could tell you.

>

> I will say this though: some measures of protection and regeneration for

> the liver, and cleansing if at all possible, are essential.

>

> If you would like to look at some slower acting and gentler cleanses,

> you might want to takea look at Whole Body Cleanse, Complete Liver

> Cleanse and Colon Klenz at the Utopia Silver section of my website's

> supplement catalog:

>

> /Supplements.htm

> </Supplements.htm>

>

> Thanks for the information on the new agaricus mushroom - I will have to

> check it out.

>

> Did you ever see my article on mushrooms?

>

> Mushrooms that Fight Disease and Boost the Immune System

> </mushrooms.htm>

>

> All the best,

>

> >

>

> oleander soup , " hologrammy2002 " <micfo07@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Tony,

> > great post : )

> >

> > I have a new product i think youll really like.

> > I ll mention it at the end of the post..

> >

> > So in your opinion youre sure that the stone breaker

> > product wont block her bile duct/duodenum/stents?

> >

> > You say to use that stone breaker before taking the rest

> > of the liver flush package, but i think its already

> > the way its meant to be done..taking the stone breaker,

> > then the other ones.(although the other products remove waste from

> kidneys etc, and this make me wary that all that crap could block

> > the duodenum, bile duct, or what not..)

> >

> > -Where are the instructions for the 14 day cleanse?

> >

> > So in your opinion, the stone breaker + 14 cleanse

> > would almost surely not result in blockages anywhere,

> > even if she had blockages and stents...?

> >

> > I think we may go the budwig + oleander+ pancreatic route for a few

> weeks first, then make a " life or death gamble " with stone

> > breaker + liver cleanse.. (alhtough not sure its ok to use

> > these products for a while before doing a liver cleanse, is it?..

> >

> > Now..

> >

> > -A product you may actually be blown away by...

> > ...you know the agaricus mushroom, the most potent there is right..

> > ......but did you know that a company did a cross of 2 agaricus

> > into a super one that is 100 more potent?

> >

> > Check out agarigold from the waiora.com company : )

> > (i like to give back when i can)

> >

> > cheers!

> > Olivier

> >

> > oleander soup , "" @ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > I had an enlarged liver and a bit of pain myself. It took time, a

> > > healthier diet, lechithin and GTF chromium to reduce it. I am sure

> > > that years of eating less than optimally and a fondness for Crown

> Royal

> > > in years past were big contributors for me. It was that less than

> > > healthy diet and lifestyle, and the realization that I was not

> destined

> > > to be young and immortal forever, which led me to begin

> investigating

> > > natural health many years ago, which led in turn to extensive

> research

> > > into cancer alternatives, my book and the formation of this group.

> And

> > > I learn more practically every day.

> > >

> > > If it were me, I might have some concerns over doing a quick,

> somewhat

> > > harsher liver flush if there are bile duct stents. Perhaps a good

> idea

> > > would be to first take the Baseline Nutritionals Stone Breaker

> product.

> > > Be sure to read the description and cautions. And you might consider

> a

> > > 14 day liver cleanse instead of the faster one. In my opinion there

> is

> > > no need to forego other supplements when taking a slower, gentler

> > > cleanse.

> > >

> > > I like the agaricus blazei murrill (ABM) mushroon, btw.

> > >

> > > All the best,

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > oleander soup , " hologrammy2002 " <micfo07@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > My mother has pancreatic cancer(had things blocked, stent

> installed)

> > > and is using blood thinning medication.

> > > > She seems to have pain at her liver, and it is bigger than usual -

> yet

> > > the doctors say they dont see anything with xrays and other tests...

> > > >

> > > > So it seems useless to simply " consult with your doctor " .

> > > >

> > > > It may be a build up of toxins in her liver, following me giving

> > > > her good doses of a agaricus mushroom potent extract and zeolite

> > > supplement for several weeks a bit prior to her problems..or jsut on

> her

> > > own

> > > >

> > > > -Can one do the liver flush(liver flush package from

> > > baselinenutritionals for example) if on blood thinning medication?

> > > >

> > > > -Can she do the flush if she has pancreatic cancer, or absolutely

> not?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > thanks!

> > > >

> > >

> >

>