Plaster rash?

[Guest guest]

Hello, everyone. I am new here.

 

I recently had a Chinese massage and was recommended to use some plasters on my

back as I was very " tense " . (I never had anyone inflict such pain on me!. - " No

pain, no gain, " she said.)

 

The plasters are from Shenyang Dongling Pharmaceutical. It's made from 48 kinds

of traditional Chinese medicinal materials such as Radix Aconiti, Radix aconiti

Kuznezoffi, Rhizome et Radix Notopterygii, Radix Clematidis, RAdix Aconiti

Lateralis preparata, Corex cinnamomi, Risina Draconis, Sanguis Draxonis, Myrrha,

Caulis Sinomeni, Camphor, Herba Belladonnae.

 

The instructions on the pack say to stick in on the affected part and take off

after one or two days, and replace with another one. It also says it is not

suitable for people with rubber allergy.

 

Since using it, I have had itchy spots on my back, and one was raised quite

high, and bled when I knocked the top off.

 

I am not aware of any rubber allergy - could I have induced one by keeping the

plasters on longer than a day or so? I kept them on for two days.

 

I have some more plasters, but am a bit reluctant to put more on while I still

have the spots.

 

Is the plaster likely to have drawn some rubbish out, and caused the spots/rash?

 

I have looked up as many of the ingredients as I could on the net, which was

interesting. If you know anything about the ingredients, I should be most

interested.

 

Thanks for any information you may have.

Lo Wee Na

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 12:28 AM, Rowena <newses wrote:

 

> Hello, everyone. I am new here.

>

> I recently had a Chinese massage and was recommended to use some plasters

> on my back as I was very " tense " . (I never had anyone inflict such pain on

> me!. - " No pain, no gain, " she said.)

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This " no pain, no gain " approach is a favorite among some acupuncturists and

massage therapists, but it is optional. I don't personally allow for any

massage techniques that causes me pain after the treatment. That's just

going too far.

 

As a practitioner, I follow the saying " too much pain, no patients. "

 

As for your plaster, if it is causing a skin reaction, just stop using it.

 

Consider a different massage therapist too.

 

If you would like to try something topical to undo the damage that (it

sounds like) your massage therapist caused, consider something similar such

as " dragon balm " or " tiger balm " which are essentially Chinese versions of

Ben-Gay. They're available at Rite Aid which is pretty easy to find if you

live in the US.

 

-al.

 

--

, DAOM

Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Al Stone,

 

Thank you for the comments [Plaster Rash].

 

In addition, I would like to recomment other plaster applications that are very

safe. These have to applied on top of the clothes, not apply directly to the

skin surface. These companies names are:

 

- YILAN ( www.tywf.com )

- TIAN YI WAN FANG

 

Each one has several applications according to their symptoms.

 

Sincerely,

Dr Khaled Abahosen

+966-1-484-5555

www.saudiintegrative.com

 

 

-

Al Stone

Chinese Traditional Medicine

Saturday, August 16, 2008 6:24 PM

Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Plaster rash?

 

 

On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 12:28 AM, Rowena <newses wrote:

 

> Hello, everyone. I am new here.

>

> I recently had a Chinese massage and was recommended to use some plasters

> on my back as I was very " tense " . (I never had anyone inflict such pain on

> me!. - " No pain, no gain, " she said.)

>

 

This " no pain, no gain " approach is a favorite among some acupuncturists and

massage therapists, but it is optional. I don't personally allow for any

massage techniques that causes me pain after the treatment. That's just

going too far.

 

As a practitioner, I follow the saying " too much pain, no patients. "

 

As for your plaster, if it is causing a skin reaction, just stop using it.

 

Consider a different massage therapist too.

 

If you would like to try something topical to undo the damage that (it

sounds like) your massage therapist caused, consider something similar such

as " dragon balm " or " tiger balm " which are essentially Chinese versions of

Ben-Gay. They're available at Rite Aid which is pretty easy to find if you

live in the US.

 

-al.

 

--

, DAOM

Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

 

[Guest guest]

Three of the herbs are hot and acrid which can have that effect in terms of

rash. Curious of the color and extent of the rash...?

 

You can look at the rash in a variety of ways...

 

1. The ingredients (48!!!) irritated the skin and caused it.

2. Toxins are being discharged. (I never liked this explanation.)

3. You left it on too long for your constitution.

 

Etc....

 

Chinese herbs are very powerful and must be taken with a professional's input

and in many cases supervision. We live in a society where followup is often not

stressed enough and taking Chinese herbs without a trusted, available and

knowledgable practitioner can be analogous to scuba diving without training or a

dive buddy. I need help in areas where I don't know the terrain. (I also need to

be willing to pay for that training and guide.)

 

How are you now and did it alleviate the original complaint?

 

Pete

 

 

-

Rowena

Chinese Traditional Medicine

Saturday, August 16, 2008 3:28 AM

[Chinese Traditional Medicine] Plaster rash?

 

 

Hello, everyone. I am new here.

 

I recently had a Chinese massage and was recommended to use some plasters on

my back as I was very " tense " . (I never had anyone inflict such pain on me!. -

" No pain, no gain, " she said.)

 

The plasters are from Shenyang Dongling Pharmaceutical. It's made from 48

kinds of traditional Chinese medicinal materials such as Radix Aconiti, Radix

aconiti Kuznezoffi, Rhizome et Radix Notopterygii, Radix Clematidis, RAdix

Aconiti Lateralis preparata, Corex cinnamomi, Risina Draconis, Sanguis Draxonis,

Myrrha, Caulis Sinomeni, Camphor, Herba Belladonnae.

 

The instructions on the pack say to stick in on the affected part and take off

after one or two days, and replace with another one. It also says it is not

suitable for people with rubber allergy.

 

Since using it, I have had itchy spots on my back, and one was raised quite

high, and bled when I knocked the top off.

 

I am not aware of any rubber allergy - could I have induced one by keeping the

plasters on longer than a day or so? I kept them on for two days.

 

I have some more plasters, but am a bit reluctant to put more on while I still

have the spots.

 

Is the plaster likely to have drawn some rubbish out, and caused the

spots/rash?

 

I have looked up as many of the ingredients as I could on the net, which was

interesting. If you know anything about the ingredients, I should be most

interested.

 

Thanks for any information you may have.

Lo Wee Na

 

[Guest guest]

Thanks Pete, Al and Dr K for your replies.

 

The rash was limited to the small of my back, though the application of plasters

(2 weeks ago now) was from neck to calves on the acupuncture points shown to me

on a diagram.

 

Seeing the rash was difficult, but when I knocked the top off the big round spot

and got my husband to look, he didn't comment on any great extent or colour of

any rash. It is mainly the deep itch that makes me aware of it.

 

When I removed the original plasters and put on the new, I didn't put as many on

as the therapist did. For one thing I couldn't reach, and they folded up before

I could get them on " round the corner " . I cut the plasters up and put smaller

ones over the areas.

 

I am interested in your comment about having left it on too long for my

constitution, though I don't really understand it. I guess I wanted my money's

worth! I took what it said on the packet (one or two days), though the girl did

say she thought it might be too strong for me and to change them the next day.

 

I was travelling, and wasn't in the area for more than a few days. I went in

accepting the offer of a $15 massage, and came out with $200 worth of plasters!

I knew I needed some help, so I was not resistant to the suggestion of applying

them.

 

I feel it did help me, though the spine in the " spotty " area is still very sore.

(Some connection, perhaps, with the spots?) The spine there feels a bit crunchy

and 'sticks' painfully sometimes. She pressed very hard in that region, but it

was already painful. The spots are on the " bulge " below the waist but above the

buttock, mainly LHS, though the big spot was above the waist on the RHS, a

finger length from the waist and about an inch from the spine.

 

Which three herbs did you identify as hot and acrid?

 

Dr KA, I looked at the Chinese site you named, but after a lot of waiting for it

to load, I was not much better informed, as it was all in Chinese writing.

Interesting that they are applied on top of the clothes. I was interested in

the information on your links page on your site.

 

Al, I believe I have a small phial of Tiger Balm somewhere, but couldn't find

it. In the meantime I have applied some cajuput and mint oil to the spine in

that area. No plaster was applied to the spine.

 

There are still several deep " itch " sites, though the spots are not as

discernable with my finger tips. I can still feel the site of the " big " spot,

and am resisting the temptation to get in to it and have a good old scratch.

 

Lo Wee Na

 

Three of the herbs are hot and acrid which can have that effect in terms of

rash. Curious of the color and extent of the rash...?

 

You can look at the rash in a variety of ways...

 

1. The ingredients (48!!!) irritated the skin and caused it.

2. Toxins are being discharged. (I never liked this explanation.)

3. You left it on too long for your constitution.

 

Etc....

 

Chinese herbs are very powerful and must be taken with a professional's input

and in many cases supervision. We live in a society where followup is often not

stressed enough and taking Chinese herbs without a trusted, available and

knowledgable practitioner can be analogous to scuba diving without training or a

dive buddy. I need help in areas where I don't know the terrain. (I also need to

be willing to pay for that training and guide.)

 

How are you now and did it alleviate the original complaint?

 

Pete

 

 

-

Rowena

Chinese Traditional Medicine

Saturday, August 16, 2008 3:28 AM

[Chinese Traditional Medicine] Plaster rash?

 

 

Hello, everyone. I am new here.

 

I recently had a Chinese massage and was recommended to use some plasters on

my back as I was very " tense " . (I never had anyone inflict such pain on me!. -

" No pain, no gain, " she said.)

 

The plasters are from Shenyang Dongling Pharmaceutical. It's made from 48

kinds of traditional Chinese medicinal materials such as Radix Aconiti, Radix

aconiti Kuznezoffi, Rhizome et Radix Notopterygii, Radix Clematidis, RAdix

Aconiti Lateralis preparata, Corex cinnamomi, Risina Draconis, Sanguis Draxonis,

Myrrha, Caulis Sinomeni, Camphor, Herba Belladonnae.

 

The instructions on the pack say to stick in on the affected part and take

off after one or two days, and replace with another one. It also says it is not

suitable for people with rubber allergy.

 

Since using it, I have had itchy spots on my back, and one was raised quite

high, and bled when I knocked the top off.

 

I am not aware of any rubber allergy - could I have induced one by keeping

the plasters on longer than a day or so? I kept them on for two days.

 

I have some more plasters, but am a bit reluctant to put more on while I

still have the spots.

 

Is the plaster likely to have drawn some rubbish out, and caused the

spots/rash?

 

I have looked up as many of the ingredients as I could on the net, which was

interesting. If you know anything about the ingredients, I should be most

interested.

 

Thanks for any information you may have.

Lo Wee Na

 

[Guest guest]

On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Rowena <newses wrote:

 

> I was travelling, and wasn't in the area for more than a few days. I

> went in accepting the offer of a $15 massage, and came out with $200 worth

> of plasters! I knew I needed some help, so I was not resistant to the

> suggestion of applying them.

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

These numbers appear exploitive. This is embarrassing in my opinion.

 

--

, DAOM

Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Radix Aconiti, Radix aconiti Kuznezoffi, Radix Aconiti Lateralis preparata.

 

These three are all aconite, some wild and some cultivated.

 

Their nature is hot!

 

Hard to figure the source of the discomfort especially without the total list

but have heard plenty of stories about people having some irritation with

plasters.

 

I'm glad Al used the phrase " exploitive " because when I saw the $200 price tag I

was uncertain whether to say anything. I've been cheated before and was

embarrassed to have been taken advantage of. My Dad used to say, " Well guess it

was a cheap lesson. "

 

I googled the Company and couldn't come up with a list of plasters they

manufacture but in my travels in Chinatown NYC I've never seen a plaster for

over $5. Generally most of these medicines ran $2-$3.

 

I'm sorry you had this experience and hard to judge it from the outside with no

contact with the practitioner but my antenna are twitching here.

 

I also feel embarrassed and angry when I see this stuff.

 

Greed is understandable but I guess I'd like to think " healers " are working past

that.

 

Don't hesitate to write more if you want.

 

All the Best

Pete

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

Rowena

Chinese Traditional Medicine

Sunday, August 17, 2008 3:13 AM

Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Plaster rash?

 

 

Thanks Pete, Al and Dr K for your replies.

 

The rash was limited to the small of my back, though the application of

plasters (2 weeks ago now) was from neck to calves on the acupuncture points

shown to me on a diagram.

 

Seeing the rash was difficult, but when I knocked the top off the big round

spot and got my husband to look, he didn't comment on any great extent or colour

of any rash. It is mainly the deep itch that makes me aware of it.

 

When I removed the original plasters and put on the new, I didn't put as many

on as the therapist did. For one thing I couldn't reach, and they folded up

before I could get them on " round the corner " . I cut the plasters up and put

smaller ones over the areas.

 

I am interested in your comment about having left it on too long for my

constitution, though I don't really understand it. I guess I wanted my money's

worth! I took what it said on the packet (one or two days), though the girl did

say she thought it might be too strong for me and to change them the next day.

 

I was travelling, and wasn't in the area for more than a few days. I went in

accepting the offer of a $15 massage, and came out with $200 worth of plasters!

I knew I needed some help, so I was not resistant to the suggestion of applying

them.

 

I feel it did help me, though the spine in the " spotty " area is still very

sore. (Some connection, perhaps, with the spots?) The spine there feels a bit

crunchy and 'sticks' painfully sometimes. She pressed very hard in that region,

but it was already painful. The spots are on the " bulge " below the waist but

above the buttock, mainly LHS, though the big spot was above the waist on the

RHS, a finger length from the waist and about an inch from the spine.

 

Which three herbs did you identify as hot and acrid?

 

Dr KA, I looked at the Chinese site you named, but after a lot of waiting for

it to load, I was not much better informed, as it was all in Chinese writing.

Interesting that they are applied on top of the clothes. I was interested in the

information on your links page on your site.

 

Al, I believe I have a small phial of Tiger Balm somewhere, but couldn't find

it. In the meantime I have applied some cajuput and mint oil to the spine in

that area. No plaster was applied to the spine.

 

There are still several deep " itch " sites, though the spots are not as

discernable with my finger tips. I can still feel the site of the " big " spot,

and am resisting the temptation to get in to it and have a good old scratch.

 

Lo Wee Na

 

Three of the herbs are hot and acrid which can have that effect in terms of

rash. Curious of the color and extent of the rash...?

 

You can look at the rash in a variety of ways...

 

1. The ingredients (48!!!) irritated the skin and caused it.

2. Toxins are being discharged. (I never liked this explanation.)

3. You left it on too long for your constitution.

 

Etc....

 

Chinese herbs are very powerful and must be taken with a professional's input

and in many cases supervision. We live in a society where followup is often not

stressed enough and taking Chinese herbs without a trusted, available and

knowledgable practitioner can be analogous to scuba diving without training or a

dive buddy. I need help in areas where I don't know the terrain. (I also need to

be willing to pay for that training and guide.)

 

How are you now and did it alleviate the original complaint?

 

Pete

 

-

Rowena

Chinese Traditional Medicine

Saturday, August 16, 2008 3:28 AM

[Chinese Traditional Medicine] Plaster rash?

 

Hello, everyone. I am new here.

 

I recently had a Chinese massage and was recommended to use some plasters on

my back as I was very " tense " . (I never had anyone inflict such pain on me!. -

" No pain, no gain, " she said.)

 

The plasters are from Shenyang Dongling Pharmaceutical. It's made from 48

kinds of traditional Chinese medicinal materials such as Radix Aconiti, Radix

aconiti Kuznezoffi, Rhizome et Radix Notopterygii, Radix Clematidis, RAdix

Aconiti Lateralis preparata, Corex cinnamomi, Risina Draconis, Sanguis Draxonis,

Myrrha, Caulis Sinomeni, Camphor, Herba Belladonnae.

 

The instructions on the pack say to stick in on the affected part and take off

after one or two days, and replace with another one. It also says it is not

suitable for people with rubber allergy.

 

Since using it, I have had itchy spots on my back, and one was raised quite

high, and bled when I knocked the top off.

 

I am not aware of any rubber allergy - could I have induced one by keeping the

plasters on longer than a day or so? I kept them on for two days.

 

I have some more plasters, but am a bit reluctant to put more on while I still

have the spots.

 

Is the plaster likely to have drawn some rubbish out, and caused the

spots/rash?

 

I have looked up as many of the ingredients as I could on the net, which was

interesting. If you know anything about the ingredients, I should be most

interested.

 

Thanks for any information you may have.

Lo Wee Na

 

[Guest guest]

Well, these are Australian dollars, which makes them a bit " cheaper " , but she

did tell me the plasters were $5 each before I agreed to her recommendation, and

there were four to a pack. I didn't realise there would be quite so many put

on, of course, I thought it was only for the neck area, as this seemed to be

where she was pointing to on the acupoints chart, and it made sense that this

area would be important for the brain, poor struggling thing that it is. Then

there was the second set to put on the next day. So at $20 a pack, it only took

five packs to make $100, and then the second set of packs for the next day. I

blinked a bit, it's true. The language was a problem, as the people involved

sounded fairly fresh out of China (to Cairns, Australia) and there were a lot of

people working there.

 

I would have thought it was just a bright idea for selling plasters, maybe, but

I happened to be in a queue a few days later when a woman was telling the woman

behind her that she was going to go to these people for a massage, and what a

good massage she gets for $15, with no mention of plasters, ha ha, so I guess

she either doesn't have many problems or knows how to say no to any extras!

Perhaps I should have butted in and asked!

 

Still and all, I do have reasonable confidence in the plasters, but I would like

to know the full recipe just the same if it was ever available, because I am

interested in these herbs and their action, and the variety of TCM. But I will

hold off putting any more on until these itchy spots disappear.

 

I know I have fibrositis, or fibromyalgia, so any possible help I am open to,

hence my nod to the plasters.

 

Another thought is this: a week previously, I had been to a Bowen therapist, who

reckoned my problems were in the intestine. I probably had this massage a bit

too soon after that treatment, ideally speaking, but having all the itch and

spots in that lower back area seems a bit coincidental, with no skin problems in

any of the other places the plasters were placed.

 

Thanks

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Rowena <newses wrote:

 

> having all the itch and spots in that lower back area seems a bit

> coincidental, with no skin problems in any of the other places the plasters

> were placed.

>

 

 

 

 

 

I just don't think that its too unusual that some people might develop a

little allergic reaction to some of the ingredients in those plasters. Do

you get the same reaction from Ben Gay? I'm not sure if you have that balm

down under, if not that must sound like a really weird remedy. ; )

 

Anyway, a little red itchy patch of skin comes up often even with

acupuncture treatments. Its an immune response. I'm sure that there are

oodles of other aromatic, warming, things you can run on to your skin or

wear with patches.

 

-al.

 

 

--

, DAOM

Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Corex cinnamomi,is one of the ingredients that might cause skin rash or allergic

dermatitis.I recommend to treat it locally by using Aloe Vera gel.and LLLT soft

laser might help you.

Dr R

[Guest guest]

Okay gotcha.

 

Give me the name of the plaster and I can find out the ingredients. The more I

hear, (regardless of the ingredients), the more I'm thinking, she and you used

way too much. Typical for me to think if one's good then two are better. Wrong.

Less is more, often. And like salt in a recipe, you can always add more if

you've underestimated, but never subtract if you've gone over.

 

I sounds like your checking out a few different options to help you. I've mixed

feelings about that since it can scatter intention and obscure any pinpointing

of the therapy/technique/modality that will actually help. There is often a

discovery period for people trying to find effective healthcare as there is no

mold that all people come from. The wholistic means exactly that. Ten different

people with the same diagnosed Western disease will often be treated differently

in truly wholistic settings. One formula or drug will not address the varied

presentations or more importantly the root of those presentations.

 

As far as continued treatment in Chinese medicine, you need your pulse and

tongue taken regularly by a qualified Oriental medical doctor or a similar

analogy down under.

 

There's a famous Australian doctor by the name of Will Maclean there who I think

teaches at the Unit of the University of Western Sydney.

Typical American here who doesn't know the layout there, but if NSW is too far

away ask for a referral for one of his students/protégés in your area.

 

Most importantly here is that without an exam of you, any statements made

regarding you is mostly speculation and I believe no one can diagnose or give

meaningful guidance without interaction.

 

Fibromylagia is a phrase used by the medical world to describe a whole range of

symptoms and 'syndrome'. I've found the Western diagnosis to be a limited use. I

treat patients with TCM because the tongue and pulse and the Examinations take

each person in their entirety and allow us to bypass labels mostly. No shortcuts

to treatment. Signs and Symptoms, Filter, Differentiate, Pattern, Treatment. The

proof if you have correctly done the above is if the person gets better. (Of

course they need to limit or stop the lifestyle choices that are hurting them

too.) We might use the diagnosis as a touchpoint in how a MD is viewing it but

it never forms the foundation for treatment. Be careful of labels unless they

are helpful to you. I've found they remove the person and particulars from the

picture that make up what is uniquely you. It's very difficult being chronically

ill and I need a good witness when I'm suffering.

 

Have to go!

I need to go and do my chigong and get some fresh air and leave cybespace for a

while!

 

All the Best!

Pete

 

 

 

 

-

Rowena

Chinese Traditional Medicine

Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:54 PM

Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Plaster rash?

 

 

Well, these are Australian dollars, which makes them a bit " cheaper " , but she

did tell me the plasters were $5 each before I agreed to her recommendation, and

there were four to a pack. I didn't realise there would be quite so many put on,

of course, I thought it was only for the neck area, as this seemed to be where

she was pointing to on the acupoints chart, and it made sense that this area

would be important for the brain, poor struggling thing that it is. Then there

was the second set to put on the next day. So at $20 a pack, it only took five

packs to make $100, and then the second set of packs for the next day. I blinked

a bit, it's true. The language was a problem, as the people involved sounded

fairly fresh out of China (to Cairns, Australia) and there were a lot of people

working there.

 

I would have thought it was just a bright idea for selling plasters, maybe,

but I happened to be in a queue a few days later when a woman was telling the

woman behind her that she was going to go to these people for a massage, and

what a good massage she gets for $15, with no mention of plasters, ha ha, so I

guess she either doesn't have many problems or knows how to say no to any

extras! Perhaps I should have butted in and asked!

 

Still and all, I do have reasonable confidence in the plasters, but I would

like to know the full recipe just the same if it was ever available, because I

am interested in these herbs and their action, and the variety of TCM. But I

will hold off putting any more on until these itchy spots disappear.

 

I know I have fibrositis, or fibromyalgia, so any possible help I am open to,

hence my nod to the plasters.

 

Another thought is this: a week previously, I had been to a Bowen therapist,

who reckoned my problems were in the intestine. I probably had this massage a

bit too soon after that treatment, ideally speaking, but having all the itch and

spots in that lower back area seems a bit coincidental, with no skin problems in

any of the other places the plasters were placed.

 

Thanks

 

[Guest guest]

Give me the name of the plaster and I can find out the ingredients.

 

 

The writing is all Chinese, and I didn't find an exactly corresponding

picture of the packet on line.

There is what could be a red letter " D " on the front, kind of ordinary

capital D in the middle, with a fancier D on the outside, otherwise all

Chinese except for Shenyang Dongling Pharmaceutical Co Ltd. bottom of front

cover, and list of ingredients. The bar code reads 6 907880 591885. legible

numbers: 071101 and 2010 10

and 2007 11 13.

To expel wind-cold evils, promote blood circulation and relieve pain.

Applicable for numbness of limbs, pain of the waist and legs, and traumatic

injury.

 

Where I live there is only western medicine; I have heard of a Chinese

practitioner in another town, used to know a fantastic one in Perth, but he

moved to Melbourne then the US (Gu Ya Fu). Took a couple of opportunities

that presented themselves while on the East Coast. She put on four packs,

I used half that or less.

 

Will enquire about Will Maclean - yes, he is on opposite side of continent.

 

Thanks again.

[Guest guest]

I read so little Chinese that I probably can't figure it out.

 

(I thought Sydney was on oppostie coasts from NSW and Perth.)

 

Sounds like you've got some contacts.

 

Just general FYI here.

 

Wind Cold Evil often means wind cold bi syndrome which usually presents as joint

pain that is worse with cold. Is that part of the presentation?

 

Pete

 

 

 

 

-

Rowena

Chinese Traditional Medicine

Monday, August 18, 2008 10:07 AM

Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Plaster rash?

 

 

 

Give me the name of the plaster and I can find out the ingredients.

 

The writing is all Chinese, and I didn't find an exactly corresponding

picture of the packet on line.

There is what could be a red letter " D " on the front, kind of ordinary

capital D in the middle, with a fancier D on the outside, otherwise all

Chinese except for Shenyang Dongling Pharmaceutical Co Ltd. bottom of front

cover, and list of ingredients. The bar code reads 6 907880 591885. legible

numbers: 071101 and 2010 10

and 2007 11 13.

To expel wind-cold evils, promote blood circulation and relieve pain.

Applicable for numbness of limbs, pain of the waist and legs, and traumatic

injury.

 

Where I live there is only western medicine; I have heard of a Chinese

practitioner in another town, used to know a fantastic one in Perth, but he

moved to Melbourne then the US (Gu Ya Fu). Took a couple of opportunities

that presented themselves while on the East Coast. She put on four packs,

I used half that or less.

 

Will enquire about Will Maclean - yes, he is on opposite side of continent.

 

Thanks again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

(I thought Sydney was on oppostie coasts from NSW and Perth.)

 

Perth is in the West (Western Australia) and Sydney is in the East (New

South Wales).

Queensland is to the north of NSW on the east coast.

 

 

 

Wind Cold Evil often means wind cold bi syndrome which usually presents as

joint pain that is worse with cold. Is that part of the presentation?

 

Pete

 

Yes, bad joint pain, and a lot worse in winter. That is why I went to

Queensland on that trip, to escape the cold in the SW of WA for a month.

 

Lo Wee Na (My Chinese name seems appropriate to use here!)

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the headsup for this geographically challenged American.

 

Pete

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Rowena

Chinese Traditional Medicine

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Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Plaster rash?

 

 

 

(I thought Sydney was on oppostie coasts from NSW and Perth.)

 

Perth is in the West (Western Australia) and Sydney is in the East (New

South Wales).

Queensland is to the north of NSW on the east coast.

 

Wind Cold Evil often means wind cold bi syndrome which usually presents as

joint pain that is worse with cold. Is that part of the presentation?

 

Pete

 

Yes, bad joint pain, and a lot worse in winter. That is why I went to

Queensland on that trip, to escape the cold in the SW of WA for a month.

 

Lo Wee Na (My Chinese name seems appropriate to use here!)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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