Guest guest Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 Dr St Amand, who specialises in FM, says about the " standard " places: The current method of assessing progress by locating tender points in a few preordained parts of the body has very limited value compared to a total body mapping. We use moderate finger pressure to find swellings within muscles, tendons and ligaments. We record their location, size and degree of hardness on a body caricature before initiating treatment as a baseline for future comparisons. We do not include painful areas we cannot palpate since they are subjective and vary greatly from day to day. Rather, we include only the abnormalities we can feel, a pure objective exercise. Previous maps are hidden until the examination is completed and only then are comparisons made. http://www.webmd.com/hw-popup/fibromyalgia-tender-points says For a clear diagnosis of fibromyalgia, according to the American College of Rheumatology guidelines, a person must have pain at 11 or more of the 18 tender points. In practice, however, many people with fibromyalgia have fewer than 11 tender points. The points are shown on http://www.fibromyalgia-symptoms.org/fibromyalgia_diagnosis.html http://www.fibromyalgia-symptoms.org/fibromyalgia_acupuncture.html says a needle was inserted into the trapezius muscles (near the back and shoulder) of both fibromyalgia patients and healthy controls. The needles helped to increase blood flow in fibromyalgia patients to a much greater degree than in the healthy controls... Treatment usually begins with your therapist checking your pulse and assessing the color and texture of your tongue. This is in order to discern which acupoints should be targeted during the session. Up to fifteen points may be pinpointed by your therapist in one session. http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/acu.2008.0587 names the points Leon Hammer uses. http://articles.directorym.com/Fibromyalgia_DC-r853175-DC.html From info at http://heal-me.com.au some corresponding points appear to be: 3 Gall Bladder 20 Feng-chih " Wind Pond " Midpoint of a line joining the tip of the mastoid process to the posterior midline in the groove between the trapezius and the sternocleido- mastoid Lung and Small Intestine Meridian This is a top point for neck and superior medial shoulder region. You may need to search for this point - it will be the most tender spot you can find. Apply deep pressure and allow the pain to ease off for instant results. Apply pressure for 10 to 15 seconds. 4 Gall Bladder 21 Perhaps Chieng-ching " Shoulder Well " Midway between C7 and acromion process. Other papers I have indicate FMS following the Gall Bladder meridian, the pericardium meridian, the lung meridian, and the bladder meridian. I wonder about the Large Intestine meridian (16) in the back of the shoulder corresponding to one of the " FM " tender spots. http://www.chiro.org/acupuncture/ABSTRACTS/Acupuncture%20Points.pdf Personally, I have zero confidence in the Rheumatology list of spots as being useful in identifying or diagnosing FMS. FM pain shifts even on the same day. Lo Wi Na Fibromyalgia has 18 standard places that are usually sensitive for people with FMS. Has anyone determined what acu points these are? Donald Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Send diagram with points and I'll see if there is correlation. Mosty likely they correspond to what the acupuncturists call ashii points. Pete - Donald_E_Jacobs Chinese Traditional Medicine Sunday, August 31, 2008 12:56 AM [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Fibro Acu Points Fibromyalgia has 18 standard places that are usually sensitive for people with FMS. Has anyone determined what acu points these are? Donald Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.13/1641 - Release 8/29/2008 7:07 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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