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Hi Rabbi Jeff,

 

J siegel wrote:

 

> Hi Jeff,

> If you are speaking of medicine in the Western sense, the Talmud

(second to 6th century)

> has mostly folk remedies, generally not relied on in later generations.

 

I know they had to have knowledge of herbs etc.

 

 

> Moses Maimonides was an outstanding physician and medical researcher

(12th century),

> he relied heavily on Greek, Roman, and Arabic sources, as well has

his own research.

> He wrote a number of medical books in Arabic (he lived in Egypt)

which are extant.

 

Do you know of any English translations?

 

> In the Kabbalah, there is a great deal about mystics also being

healers, but I know of no description

> in the literature of how exactly this was done. In the writings of

the great Jewish mystic, Rabbi

> Nachman of Breslov (also known as Bratzlav) (1772-1810), there is a

great deal about

> " 10 types of pulse " used for diagnosis of both physical and spiritual

ailments.

> He saw depression as the primary cause for illness.

 

Now the NIH sees stress (one of the leading causes of depression) as

being a contributor to 80%

of all adult onset illness.

 

> There was a 13th century mystic, Rabbi Abraham Abualafia, who devised

a Jewish system of

> Yoga, complete with breathing exercises, postures, and meditation. I

do not know if he used any of

> these for healing, or " only " for enlightenment.

> His works remain mostly in manuscript in European libraries and

universities, so I only know of his work

> through secondary sources.

 

I would love to get English translations of those works. Strangely, I

used to work with a Farshid Abulafia.

He was a drummer from Persia. I used to play bass and bass guitar in the

many middle eastern and Israeli

restaurants and night clubs that existed in the late 1960s. I was also

with a group called the Sabras.

See if you can look up Ezra Zahavi. I think he now lives in Queens. He

was part of the group.

 

 

> There is a for Jewish Healing, they may be able to help

you more.

 

What is the link?

 

> Have a lovely weekend, and Sjhabbat Shalom,

> Jeff

> P.S. My location is in South Shore� Nassau County, 20 minutes from

the New York City limits.

 

I lived in Levittown, Massapequa Park and Merrick from when I was two to

twelve years old.

20 minutes to NYC? You are not using the LIE then; must be a helicopter :-)

 

Shabbat Shalom to you and your family as well.

 

Jeff

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On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 3:59 PM, YuLi Qigong <yuliqigong wrote:

 

> Now the NIH sees stress (one of the leading causes of depression) as

> being a contributor to 80%

> of all adult onset illness.

>

 

 

 

 

 

Stress induced problems makes up about 80% of my practice. So, I guess I'm

statistically normal. :)

 

Jeff, I've also heard that 80% of office visits to general practitioners

arise from stress or depression, but I've had difficulty in locating a

reference for this. Are you operating under the same understanding, or have

you seen something at the NIH site that you can cite?

 

Thanks.

 

--

, DAOM

Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

 

 

 

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I had the link saved until a few weeks ago when both my hard drive and

my backup died the same day.

I have the main drive at a data recovery company, but I haven't figured

out how to combine the saved links in Firefox with recovered data.

 

There were two studies or meta-studies that I remember.

 

Jeff

 

Al Stone wrote:

>

> On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 3:59 PM, YuLi Qigong <yuliqigong

> <yuliqigong%40comcast.net>> wrote:

>

> > Now the NIH sees stress (one of the leading causes of depression) as

> > being a contributor to 80%

> > of all adult onset illness.

> >

>

> Stress induced problems makes up about 80% of my practice. So, I guess I'm

> statistically normal. :)

>

> Jeff, I've also heard that 80% of office visits to general practitioners

> arise from stress or depression, but I've had difficulty in locating a

> reference for this. Are you operating under the same understanding, or

> have

> you seen something at the NIH site that you can cite?

>

> Thanks.

>

> --

> , DAOM

> Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

>

>

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Hi Jeff,

Talk of herbs and foods as medicine is scattered through the Talmud, and is not

systematized. There is probably more in Tractate Brachot than anywhere else, but

this too is scattered among a variety of other topics.

in Maimonides, his legal code, in The Book of Knowledge, Hilchot De'ot (laws of

Opinion or Mind) Chapter 5 is devoted to a synopsis of his philosophy of

healthful eating and living. He concludes with a promise that " I guarantee that

anyone living by these principles will not get sick until he reaches an advanced

age. " I have no further information on his medical works, which were written in

Arabic. I believe they have been translated. There was a curious debate in the

Smithsonian magazine about two years ago whether Maimonides is to be considered

a Jewish or Arab scholar. I don't have the issue here, but I would imagine you

could find it. it talked primarily about his medical ideas.

The JewishHealing group is a . You can join in the same way you got

on to this group. Just go to and enter the name.

I live and work in Island Park (between Oceanside and Long Beach), a twenty

minute drive from the Borough of Queens, using city streets. No helicopter

necessary ;).

All the best,

Jeff

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I thought I would mention this just in case it could help, if you're

not interested, please disregard.

 

Since you use firefox, there is a free add-on that manages your

bookmark links and stores them online. You can set it up to sync

between multiple computers, such as one at work and one at home, or if

you are on a public computer and would like to use them it has a web

based interface.

 

The add-on is called foxmarks and you can check it out here

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2410

 

If you would like some help on how to merge the links, feel free to

e-mail me =)

 

Rex

 

 

 

Chinese Traditional Medicine , YuLi Qigong <yuliqigong wrote:

>

> I had the link saved until a few weeks ago when both my hard drive and

> my backup died the same day.

> I have the main drive at a data recovery company, but I haven't figured

> out how to combine the saved links in Firefox with recovered data.

>

> There were two studies or meta-studies that I remember.

>

> Jeff

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