Guest guest Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 I am so glad there are so many who are interested in the study of cancer and TCM. I have started a list and will be e-mailing you some of the info that I have collected. I am doing a study on a formula for lung cancer. There is no name for the formula, but is a composition of herbs that are used from different studies for lung cancer. This is just a study of the herbs, but I think with a lot of good open minds and dissecting the formula we may learn something. after all, isn't that what we have dedicated our live for? Health to you, Mary Spohn LAc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 I have the book, its very interesting. Thanks for the info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2004 Report Share Posted March 20, 2004 I collect information on the use of both TCM and Botanical Medicine for treatment of Cancers.However, I am a veterinarian that is working on my Masters in TCVM.I would be glad to be a part of your interest.We use protocalls and TCM formulas that have worked on people and so I believe the thought process for all species is equally contributing to the overall knowledge we need to gain on the use of TCM in cancer.Sincerely,P. Jordan,DVM PS Currently working on Lymphoma, abdominal masses with TCM. >DrSpohn >Chinese Medicine >Chinese Medicine >CC: DrSpohn > TCM and Cancer >Fri, 19 Mar 2004 13:35:43 EST > >This is to anyone who wants to explore the benefits that TCM has to offer >in >the field of cancer. I am very interested in finding out research that has >been done in treating cancer patients. Some of you don't want to go into >that >direction, but for those of you that do please email me and maybe we can >put our >heads together and match notes. I have always been interested in treating >cancer with TCM, I lost my dad to cancer 7 years ago, since then I have >tried to >find out all I could on helping cancer patients with TCM. So if you want to >join in just send me a note. Mary Spohn > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2004 Report Share Posted March 20, 2004 Patricia Jordan wrote: I collect information on the use of both TCM and Botanical Medicine for treatment of Cancers.However, I am a veterinarian that is working on my Masters in TCVM.I would be glad to be a part of your interest.We use protocalls and TCM formulas that have worked on people and so I believe the thought process for all species is equally contributing to the overall knowledge we need to gain on the use of TCM in cancer.Sincerely,P. Jordan,DVM PS Currently working on Lymphoma, abdominal masses with TCM. > > For lymphoma pathology, look to Matsumoto's work with Immune Reflex clearing. You would find sore tender spots at sternomastoid origin and a little further inferiorly at a point she calls Evil Wind. You work with Japanese LI 11 and LI 10, and the approach requires a steady touch and patience. If reflex is cleared, much of immune based illnesses are also cleared, or ameliorated. She explains the connection between the Gate of Po, anus, the corporeal soul, the ileo-cecal junction with the rich lymphatic network, and the lymphocytic cellular paucity, a low count. For abdominal masses look to working with the Ren as part of combination with Yin Qiao. Look for the nine kinds of " upside down cups " ; aggregations, God love the Chinese for allegories. There's even a plate in there somewhere, upside down of course. Go this look to Dr Yoshio Manaka's work with isophasality in his Chasing the Dragon's Tail, the guy was a mad genius, my kind of mad. If you are staid, stay with Matsumoto-Birch's Extraordinary Vessels. No madness there, real straight structure, Japanese-precise-don't step out of line fashion. Because you are dealing with quadrupeds, try to locate Immune Reflex with the animal on all fours. More natural than finding it on the weakly forelegs of human bipeds. When working with abd masses, check in l and r lateral positions when abd is relaxed. Best. Dr. Holmes Keikobad MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ www.acu-free.com - 15 CEUS by video for acupuncture recertification. NCCAOM reviewed. Also CA NM AZ MA and most states. $ 299 all 50 states in US. S & H and tax included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2004 Report Share Posted March 21, 2004 Could you please explain more about the relationship between the gate of po, corporeal soul, etc, as i'm very interested in this. Attilio " Dr. Holmes Keikobad " <acuheal@e...> wrote: She explains the connection between the Gate of Po, anus, the corporeal soul, the ileo-cecal junction with the rich lymphatic network, and the lymphocytic cellular paucity, a low count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2004 Report Share Posted March 21, 2004 --- DrSpohn@a... wrote: > This is to anyone who wants to explore the benefits that TCM has to > offer in the field of cancer. I am very interested in finding out > research that has been done in treating cancer patients. Do you know this article? http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/466879 Best wishes Alwin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2004 Report Share Posted March 21, 2004 Hi Alwin, I tried to access the web site and it won't work. Can you check the address again? Thanks for the info. Blessings, Mary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2004 Report Share Posted March 22, 2004 Hi Mary The file is accessible but it requires registration at MedScape. The registration is free though. The article is called: " and Supportive Cancer Care: A Model for an Evidence-Based, Integrative Approach Posted 02/10/2004 Stephen M Sagar; Raimond Wong " Hope this helps you out Best wishes Alwin --- DrSpohn@a... wrote: > Hi Alwin, I tried to access the web site and it won't work. Can you check the > address again? Thanks for the info. Blessings, Mary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2004 Report Share Posted March 22, 2004 Attilio: Could you please explain more about the relationship between the gate of po, corporeal soul, etc, as i'm very interested in this. > > Matsumoto, following her teacher Master Nagano et al, has developed a protocol for diagnosing Immune Reflex, which once ameliorated, allows the body to heal and stay in good health. This reflex revolves around finding a tender area at TW 16 and another one at Evil Wind, a cun antero-inferior on the posterior border of the SCM at its origin. The way to release this is by palpating " gummy " areas around the Japanese LI 11 and LI 10 for good measure, so the tenderness is released. Oddly, these areas are at the top of the, or the entryway to, the neck, wherein the breath arrives. OK. The Gate of Po is at the other end, at the outlet orifice to LI, leads one to, somewhat proximally, the ileo-cecal junction, which has the largest collection of lymphatic vessels in the body around it, to deal with any pathogen which might reflux back inspite of the i-c valve and the gradient of flux downstream. Man and woman are therefore so much tissue strung around a nasal-anal axis [my comment, Matsumoto does not countenance the profane]. Working the LI points releases stagnation in this ileo-cecal area, bringing about a free flow of the immune bodies. Gate of Po equates to the corporeal soul because it is oriented to Metal, and the humanoid fetus becomes human with the first breath, and with the last, mantelpiece decoration. Throw in a Nan-Ching passage which relates tenderness in R paraumbilical region with a LU disorder, and the L, with LIV, and one gets more affirmation. In Indian lore, the really uncivilized kind, th best, when a person defecates at death, a rebirth is sure to follow. Which does nor sound pleasant. By extension, if the 'jeeva', breath, leaves by other venues, other destinations follow. The best is when the skull, I am not making this up, splits, and one ends up in Guru Valhall. Which to me is dreadful, because there is not one pub in sight, and all the pretty ankles are in robes, and you have more Gurus than you are likely to be able to digest. Best wishes Dr. Holmes Keikobad MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ www.acu-free.com - 15 CEUS by video for acupuncture recertification. NCCAOM reviewed. Also CA NM AZ MA and most states. $ 299 all 50 states in US. S & H and tax included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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