Guest guest Posted March 21, 2004 Report Share Posted March 21, 2004 Hi Klaus I ran the German text through babelfish.com. Could you tell me if it is accurate please I have always desired to know how accurate this service is.. translation: The Chou time and the Daemonenmedizin before approximately 2200 years was one the opinion that Demon were the causes of diseases, and so by bad-willing humans different poisonous insects, worms and queues into a container were then filled. After approximately 100 days these animals would have eaten mutual, to only one animal, which remained remaining most poisonous - so the opinion at that time -. One assumed that it would unite the entire poison of the raw material in itself. This last worm animal was spent now with second into a container with water, where itself the two united with one another. The seed of the male animal floated to the surface and forms there the so-called ku-poison (ku = chin. Bitterly). " bad-willing " humans took up now with a needle eye this poison and gave it - still on the same day into the meal of another humans. As soon as the receiver had taken the ku-seed to itself, from it worms which resembled their parents, developed. As proof for a such ku-poisoning it was regarded at that time, if after dying a such victim worms from the body openings of the corpse crept. If one wanted to determine whether living humans suffered under this Demon, then one let him spit in water; in the positive case the saliva sank downward. It with this history around pure superstition acts, is clear for modern humans. Nevertheless, to the time at that time the Demon was treated. One remembered among other things that millipedes worms ate and used these in dried form against it. Since then it applies thus also today still - that dried millipedes are a probates worm means. What happens now, if an unabashed visitor hears of this indication and thereupon for his practice need buys Chinese millipedes? Me it is not well-known whether this means is used here by " connoisseurs " into Europe against parasitic illnesses. It is however conceivable that in the whole system still different " worms " exist, which only by per finds knowledge background be avoided can. To this topic Professor Paul And Unschuld supplies large information in its book " medicine to China " . It appeared in the publishing house C.H. Beck in Munich. Klaus Radloff Sun Si Miao's 13 Ghost Points These originated from 'Thousand Ducat Formulas' in the Tang dynasty (618-907 A.D., near the end of the middle ages), which was when the first book was ever printed, and a push to make Buddhism the state religion was attempted. Quite possibly an idea of forced religion, and the beginnings of information-overload provided by the invention of printing, both played a role in the need for more empirical practice concerning mental disorders (Kuang Dian), which we now refer to as mood, personality, and/or Schizophrenic patterns/disorders. Now, early in the new millennia, it seems to be of great importance for Traditional and particularly Acupuncture with it's unique ability to regulate many aspects of our health and life, to step forward into what seems to be another age with the need for mental health treatment options. The 13 Ghost Points: a.. Guigong - Ghost Palace (Renzhong Du 26) b.. Gui Zhen - Ghost Pillow (Fengfu Du 16) c.. Guitang - ghost Hall (Shangxing Du 23) d.. GuiShi - Ghost Market (Chengqiang Ren 24) e.. Guixin - Ghost Faith (Shaoshang Lu 11) f.. Guitui - Ghost Leg (Quchi LI 11) g.. Guichuang - Ghost's Bed (Jiache ST 6) h.. Guilei - Ghost Fortress (Yinbai SP 1) i.. Guixin - Ghost Heart (Daling PC 7) j.. Guicu - Ghost Cave (Laogong PC 8) k.. Guilu - Ghost Path (Shenmai BL 62) l.. Guifeng - Ghost Seal (Haiquan extra point below tongue) m.. Guicang - Ghost Store (Huiyin Ren 1) It has been said that Guixin - Ghost Heart (Daling PC 7) is actually Taiyuan Lu 9 (connecting these points may be of benefit). It is of popular belief that Guilu - Ghost Path (Shenmai BL 62) is actually Jianshi PC 5. Another text includes Shenting Du 24, Ruzhong ST 17, Yanglingquan GB 34, and Xingjian LR 2, and did not include Shenmai BL 62, Shangxing Du 23, Quchi LI 11, and Huiyin Ren 1. Tcm.health-info.org Die Chou Zeit und die Dämonenmedizin Vor etwa 2200 Jahren war man der Ansicht, dass Dämone die Verursacher von Krankheiten seien, und so wurden dann von böswilligen Menschen verschiedene giftige Insekten, Würmer und Schlangen in ein Gefäss gefüllt. Nach etwa 100 Tagen hätten diese Tiere sich gegenseitig gefressen, bis nur ein Tier, das giftigste - so die damalige Meinung - übrig blieb. Man nahm an, dass es das gesamte Gift des Ausgangsmaterials in sich vereinen würde. Dieses letzte Wurmtier wurde nun mit einem zweiten in ein Gefäss mit Wasser verbracht, worin sich die beiden miteinander vereinten. Der Samen des männlichen Tieres trieb an die Oberfläche und bildet dort das sog. ku-Gift (ku = chin. Bitter). Der " böswillige " Mensch nahm nun mit einem Nadelöhr dieses Gift auf und gab es - noch am gleichen Tag- in das Essen eines anderen Menschen. Sobald der Empfänger den ku-Samen zu sich genommen hatte, entwickelten sich daraus Würmer, die ihren Eltern glichen. Als Beweis für eine derartige ku-Vergiftung wurde es damals angesehen, wenn nach dem Ableben eines derartigen Opfers Würmer aus den Körperöffnungen der Leiche krochen. Wollte man feststellen, ob ein lebender Mensch unter dieses Dämonen litt, dann liess man ihn in Wasser spucken; im positiven Fall sank der Speichel nach unten. Das es sich bei dieser Geschichte um reinen Aberglauben handelt, ist für den modernen Menschen klar. Dennoch, zur damaligen Zeit wurden die Dämonen behandelt. Man erinnerte sich u.a. daran, dass Tausendfüssler Würmer fressen und verwendete diese in getrockneter Form dagegen. Seitdem gilt also auch heute noch - dass getrocknete Tausendfüssler ein probates Wurmmittel seien. Was geschieht nun, wenn ein unbefangener Besucher von dieser Indikation hört und daraufhin für seinen Praxisbedarf chinesische Tausendfüssler kauft? Mir ist nicht bekannt, ob dieses Mittel von " Kennern " hier in Europa gegen parasitäre Erkrankungen eingesetzt wird. Es ist aber vorstellbar, dass in dem ganzen System noch andere " Würmer " existieren, die nur durch profunde Kenntnis der Hintergründe vermieden werden können. Zu diesem Thema liefert Prof. Paul U. Unschuld weitergehende Informationen in seinem Buch " Medizin in China " . Es ist im Verlag C.H. Beck in München erschienen. Klaus Radloff Thanks, Sunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2004 Report Share Posted March 21, 2004 OH THANK YOU!!! for the translation!!! Lady Melody Sunny [sacredqi888] Sunday, March 21, 2004 11:30 AM Chinese Medicine Ghost Pts " Demon " medicine? Hi Klaus I ran the German text through babelfish.com. Could you tell me if it is accurate please I have always desired to know how accurate this service is.. translation: The Chou time and the Daemonenmedizin before approximately 2200 years was one the opinion that Demon were the causes of diseases, and so by bad-willing humans different poisonous insects, worms and queues into a container were then filled. After approximately 100 days these animals would have eaten mutual, to only one animal, which remained remaining most poisonous - so the opinion at that time -. One assumed that it would unite the entire poison of the raw material in itself. This last worm animal was spent now with second into a container with water, where itself the two united with one another. The seed of the male animal floated to the surface and forms there the so-called ku-poison (ku = chin. Bitterly). " bad-willing " humans took up now with a needle eye this poison and gave it - still on the same day into the meal of another humans. As soon as the receiver had taken the ku-seed to itself, from it worms which resembled their parents, developed. As proof for a such ku-poisoning it was regarded at that time, if after dying a such victim worms from the body openings of the corpse crept. If one wanted to determine whether living humans suffered under this Demon, then one let him spit in water; in the positive case the saliva sank downward. It with this history around pure superstition acts, is clear for modern humans. Nevertheless, to the time at that time the Demon was treated. One remembered among other things that millipedes worms ate and used these in dried form against it. Since then it applies thus also today still - that dried millipedes are a probates worm means. What happens now, if an unabashed visitor hears of this indication and thereupon for his practice need buys Chinese millipedes? Me it is not well-known whether this means is used here by " connoisseurs " into Europe against parasitic illnesses. It is however conceivable that in the whole system still different " worms " exist, which only by per finds knowledge background be avoided can. To this topic Professor Paul And Unschuld supplies large information in its book " medicine to China " . It appeared in the publishing house C.H. Beck in Munich. Klaus Radloff Sun Si Miao's 13 Ghost Points These originated from 'Thousand Ducat Formulas' in the Tang dynasty (618-907 A.D., near the end of the middle ages), which was when the first book was ever printed, and a push to make Buddhism the state religion was attempted. Quite possibly an idea of forced religion, and the beginnings of information-overload provided by the invention of printing, both played a role in the need for more empirical practice concerning mental disorders (Kuang Dian), which we now refer to as mood, personality, and/or Schizophrenic patterns/disorders. Now, early in the new millennia, it seems to be of great importance for Traditional and particularly Acupuncture with it's unique ability to regulate many aspects of our health and life, to step forward into what seems to be another age with the need for mental health treatment options. The 13 Ghost Points: a.. Guigong - Ghost Palace (Renzhong Du 26) b.. Gui Zhen - Ghost Pillow (Fengfu Du 16) c.. Guitang - ghost Hall (Shangxing Du 23) d.. GuiShi - Ghost Market (Chengqiang Ren 24) e.. Guixin - Ghost Faith (Shaoshang Lu 11) f.. Guitui - Ghost Leg (Quchi LI 11) g.. Guichuang - Ghost's Bed (Jiache ST 6) h.. Guilei - Ghost Fortress (Yinbai SP 1) i.. Guixin - Ghost Heart (Daling PC 7) j.. Guicu - Ghost Cave (Laogong PC 8) k.. Guilu - Ghost Path (Shenmai BL 62) l.. Guifeng - Ghost Seal (Haiquan extra point below tongue) m.. Guicang - Ghost Store (Huiyin Ren 1) It has been said that Guixin - Ghost Heart (Daling PC 7) is actually Taiyuan Lu 9 (connecting these points may be of benefit). It is of popular belief that Guilu - Ghost Path (Shenmai BL 62) is actually Jianshi PC 5. Another text includes Shenting Du 24, Ruzhong ST 17, Yanglingquan GB 34, and Xingjian LR 2, and did not include Shenmai BL 62, Shangxing Du 23, Quchi LI 11, and Huiyin Ren 1. Tcm.health-info.org Die Chou Zeit und die Dämonenmedizin Vor etwa 2200 Jahren war man der Ansicht, dass Dämone die Verursacher von Krankheiten seien, und so wurden dann von böswilligen Menschen verschiedene giftige Insekten, Würmer und Schlangen in ein Gefäss gefüllt. Nach etwa 100 Tagen hätten diese Tiere sich gegenseitig gefressen, bis nur ein Tier, das giftigste - so die damalige Meinung - übrig blieb. Man nahm an, dass es das gesamte Gift des Ausgangsmaterials in sich vereinen würde. Dieses letzte Wurmtier wurde nun mit einem zweiten in ein Gefäss mit Wasser verbracht, worin sich die beiden miteinander vereinten. Der Samen des männlichen Tieres trieb an die Oberfläche und bildet dort das sog. ku-Gift (ku = chin. Bitter). Der " böswillige " Mensch nahm nun mit einem Nadelöhr dieses Gift auf und gab es - noch am gleichen Tag- in das Essen eines anderen Menschen. Sobald der Empfänger den ku-Samen zu sich genommen hatte, entwickelten sich daraus Würmer, die ihren Eltern glichen. Als Beweis für eine derartige ku-Vergiftung wurde es damals angesehen, wenn nach dem Ableben eines derartigen Opfers Würmer aus den Körperöffnungen der Leiche krochen. Wollte man feststellen, ob ein lebender Mensch unter dieses Dämonen litt, dann liess man ihn in Wasser spucken; im positiven Fall sank der Speichel nach unten. Das es sich bei dieser Geschichte um reinen Aberglauben handelt, ist für den modernen Menschen klar. Dennoch, zur damaligen Zeit wurden die Dämonen behandelt. Man erinnerte sich u.a. daran, dass Tausendfüssler Würmer fressen und verwendete diese in getrockneter Form dagegen. Seitdem gilt also auch heute noch - dass getrocknete Tausendfüssler ein probates Wurmmittel seien. Was geschieht nun, wenn ein unbefangener Besucher von dieser Indikation hört und daraufhin für seinen Praxisbedarf chinesische Tausendfüssler kauft? Mir ist nicht bekannt, ob dieses Mittel von " Kennern " hier in Europa gegen parasitäre Erkrankungen eingesetzt wird. Es ist aber vorstellbar, dass in dem ganzen System noch andere " Würmer " existieren, die nur durch profunde Kenntnis der Hintergründe vermieden werden können. Zu diesem Thema liefert Prof. Paul U. Unschuld weitergehende Informationen in seinem Buch " Medizin in China " . Es ist im Verlag C.H. Beck in München erschienen. Klaus Radloff Thanks, Sunny Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. To change your email settings, i.e. individually, daily digest or none, visit the groups’ homepage: Chinese Medicine/ click ‘edit my membership' on the right hand side and adjust accordingly. To send an email to <Chinese Medicine- > from the email account you joined with. You will be removed automatically but will still recieve messages for a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2004 Report Share Posted March 21, 2004 Thanks for the article. Do you have the indications for the 13 Ghost Points that you list . Thanks...Brian Sunny <sacredqi888 wrote: Hi Klaus I ran the German text through babelfish.com. Could you tell me if it is accurate please I have always desired to know how accurate this service is.. translation: The Chou time and the Daemonenmedizin before approximately 2200 years was one the opinion that Demon were the causes of diseases, and so by bad-willing humans different poisonous insects, worms and queues into a container were then filled. After approximately 100 days these animals would have eaten mutual, to only one animal, which remained remaining most poisonous - so the opinion at that time -. One assumed that it would unite the entire poison of the raw material in itself. This last worm animal was spent now with second into a container with water, where itself the two united with one another. The seed of the male animal floated to the surface and forms there the so-called ku-poison (ku = chin. Bitterly). " bad-willing " humans took up now with a needle eye this poison and gave it - still on the same day into the meal of another humans. As soon as the receiver had taken the ku-seed to itself, from it worms which resembled their parents, developed. As proof for a such ku-poisoning it was regarded at that time, if after dying a such victim worms from the body openings of the corpse crept. If one wanted to determine whether living humans suffered under this Demon, then one let him spit in water; in the positive case the saliva sank downward. It with this history around pure superstition acts, is clear for modern humans. Nevertheless, to the time at that time the Demon was treated. One remembered among other things that millipedes worms ate and used these in dried form against it. Since then it applies thus also today still - that dried millipedes are a probates worm means. What happens now, if an unabashed visitor hears of this indication and thereupon for his practice need buys Chinese millipedes? Me it is not well-known whether this means is used here by " connoisseurs " into Europe against parasitic illnesses. It is however conceivable that in the whole system still different " worms " exist, which only by per finds knowledge background be avoided can. To this topic Professor Paul And Unschuld supplies large information in its book " medicine to China " . It appeared in the publishing house C.H. Beck in Munich. Klaus Radloff Sun Si Miao's 13 Ghost Points These originated from 'Thousand Ducat Formulas' in the Tang dynasty (618-907 A.D., near the end of the middle ages), which was when the first book was ever printed, and a push to make Buddhism the state religion was attempted. Quite possibly an idea of forced religion, and the beginnings of information-overload provided by the invention of printing, both played a role in the need for more empirical practice concerning mental disorders (Kuang Dian), which we now refer to as mood, personality, and/or Schizophrenic patterns/disorders. Now, early in the new millennia, it seems to be of great importance for Traditional and particularly Acupuncture with it's unique ability to regulate many aspects of our health and life, to step forward into what seems to be another age with the need for mental health treatment options. The 13 Ghost Points: a.. Guigong - Ghost Palace (Renzhong Du 26) b.. Gui Zhen - Ghost Pillow (Fengfu Du 16) c.. Guitang - ghost Hall (Shangxing Du 23) d.. GuiShi - Ghost Market (Chengqiang Ren 24) e.. Guixin - Ghost Faith (Shaoshang Lu 11) f.. Guitui - Ghost Leg (Quchi LI 11) g.. Guichuang - Ghost's Bed (Jiache ST 6) h.. Guilei - Ghost Fortress (Yinbai SP 1) i.. Guixin - Ghost Heart (Daling PC 7) j.. Guicu - Ghost Cave (Laogong PC 8) k.. Guilu - Ghost Path (Shenmai BL 62) l.. Guifeng - Ghost Seal (Haiquan extra point below tongue) m.. Guicang - Ghost Store (Huiyin Ren 1) It has been said that Guixin - Ghost Heart (Daling PC 7) is actually Taiyuan Lu 9 (connecting these points may be of benefit). It is of popular belief that Guilu - Ghost Path (Shenmai BL 62) is actually Jianshi PC 5. Another text includes Shenting Du 24, Ruzhong ST 17, Yanglingquan GB 34, and Xingjian LR 2, and did not include Shenmai BL 62, Shangxing Du 23, Quchi LI 11, and Huiyin Ren 1. Tcm.health-info.org Die Chou Zeit und die Dämonenmedizin Vor etwa 2200 Jahren war man der Ansicht, dass Dämone die Verursacher von Krankheiten seien, und so wurden dann von böswilligen Menschen verschiedene giftige Insekten, Würmer und Schlangen in ein Gefäss gefüllt. Nach etwa 100 Tagen hätten diese Tiere sich gegenseitig gefressen, bis nur ein Tier, das giftigste - so die damalige Meinung - übrig blieb. Man nahm an, dass es das gesamte Gift des Ausgangsmaterials in sich vereinen würde. Dieses letzte Wurmtier wurde nun mit einem zweiten in ein Gefäss mit Wasser verbracht, worin sich die beiden miteinander vereinten. Der Samen des männlichen Tieres trieb an die Oberfläche und bildet dort das sog. ku-Gift (ku = chin. Bitter). Der " böswillige " Mensch nahm nun mit einem Nadelöhr dieses Gift auf und gab es - noch am gleichen Tag- in das Essen eines anderen Menschen. Sobald der Empfänger den ku-Samen zu sich genommen hatte, entwickelten sich daraus Würmer, die ihren Eltern glichen. Als Beweis für eine derartige ku-Vergiftung wurde es damals angesehen, wenn nach dem Ableben eines derartigen Opfers Würmer aus den Körperöffnungen der Leiche krochen. Wollte man feststellen, ob ein lebender Mensch unter dieses Dämonen litt, dann liess man ihn in Wasser spucken; im positiven Fall sank der Speichel nach unten. Das es sich bei dieser Geschichte um reinen Aberglauben handelt, ist für den modernen Menschen klar. Dennoch, zur damaligen Zeit wurden die Dämonen behandelt. Man erinnerte sich u.a. daran, dass Tausendfüssler Würmer fressen und verwendete diese in getrockneter Form dagegen. Seitdem gilt also auch heute noch - dass getrocknete Tausendfüssler ein probates Wurmmittel seien. Was geschieht nun, wenn ein unbefangener Besucher von dieser Indikation hört und daraufhin für seinen Praxisbedarf chinesische Tausendfüssler kauft? Mir ist nicht bekannt, ob dieses Mittel von " Kennern " hier in Europa gegen parasitäre Erkrankungen eingesetzt wird. Es ist aber vorstellbar, dass in dem ganzen System noch andere " Würmer " existieren, die nur durch profunde Kenntnis der Hintergründe vermieden werden können. Zu diesem Thema liefert Prof. Paul U. Unschuld weitergehende Informationen in seinem Buch " Medizin in China " . Es ist im Verlag C.H. Beck in München erschienen. Klaus Radloff Thanks, Sunny Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. To change your email settings, i.e. individually, daily digest or none, visit the groups’ homepage: Chinese Medicine/ click ‘edit my membership' on the right hand side and adjust accordingly. To send an email to from the email account you joined with. You will be removed automatically but will still recieve messages for a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2004 Report Share Posted March 21, 2004 hi brian, i just copied this text of sun si miao and i am myself searching for further knowledge regarding the ghost points, so i can only give you the classic indications, but you´ll find these in every good acupuncture book. blessings, robert - " Brian Hardy " <mischievous00 <Chinese Medicine > Sunday, March 21, 2004 7:18 PM Re: Ghost Pts " Demon " medicine? Thanks for the article. Do you have the indications for the 13 Ghost Points that you list . Thanks...Brian Sunny <sacredqi888 wrote: Hi Klaus I ran the German text through babelfish.com. Could you tell me if it is accurate please I have always desired to know how accurate this service is.. translation: The Chou time and the Daemonenmedizin before approximately 2200 years was one the opinion that Demon were the causes of diseases, and so by bad-willing humans different poisonous insects, worms and queues into a container were then filled. After approximately 100 days these animals would have eaten mutual, to only one animal, which remained remaining most poisonous - so the opinion at that time -. One assumed that it would unite the entire poison of the raw material in itself. This last worm animal was spent now with second into a container with water, where itself the two united with one another. The seed of the male animal floated to the surface and forms there the so-called ku-poison (ku = chin. Bitterly). " bad-willing " humans took up now with a needle eye this poison and gave it - still on the same day into the meal of another humans. As soon as the receiver had taken the ku-seed to itself, from it worms which resembled their parents, developed. As proof for a such ku-poisoning it was regarded at that time, if after dying a such victim worms from the body openings of the corpse crept. If one wanted to determine whether living humans suffered under this Demon, then one let him spit in water; in the positive case the saliva sank downward. It with this history around pure superstition acts, is clear for modern humans. Nevertheless, to the time at that time the Demon was treated. One remembered among other things that millipedes worms ate and used these in dried form against it. Since then it applies thus also today still - that dried millipedes are a probates worm means. What happens now, if an unabashed visitor hears of this indication and thereupon for his practice need buys Chinese millipedes? Me it is not well-known whether this means is used here by " connoisseurs " into Europe against parasitic illnesses. It is however conceivable that in the whole system still different " worms " exist, which only by per finds knowledge background be avoided can. To this topic Professor Paul And Unschuld supplies large information in its book " medicine to China " . It appeared in the publishing house C.H. Beck in Munich. Klaus Radloff Sun Si Miao's 13 Ghost Points These originated from 'Thousand Ducat Formulas' in the Tang dynasty (618-907 A.D., near the end of the middle ages), which was when the first book was ever printed, and a push to make Buddhism the state religion was attempted. Quite possibly an idea of forced religion, and the beginnings of information-overload provided by the invention of printing, both played a role in the need for more empirical practice concerning mental disorders (Kuang Dian), which we now refer to as mood, personality, and/or Schizophrenic patterns/disorders. Now, early in the new millennia, it seems to be of great importance for Traditional and particularly Acupuncture with it's unique ability to regulate many aspects of our health and life, to step forward into what seems to be another age with the need for mental health treatment options. The 13 Ghost Points: a.. Guigong - Ghost Palace (Renzhong Du 26) b.. Gui Zhen - Ghost Pillow (Fengfu Du 16) c.. Guitang - ghost Hall (Shangxing Du 23) d.. GuiShi - Ghost Market (Chengqiang Ren 24) e.. Guixin - Ghost Faith (Shaoshang Lu 11) f.. Guitui - Ghost Leg (Quchi LI 11) g.. Guichuang - Ghost's Bed (Jiache ST 6) h.. Guilei - Ghost Fortress (Yinbai SP 1) i.. Guixin - Ghost Heart (Daling PC 7) j.. Guicu - Ghost Cave (Laogong PC 8) k.. Guilu - Ghost Path (Shenmai BL 62) l.. Guifeng - Ghost Seal (Haiquan extra point below tongue) m.. Guicang - Ghost Store (Huiyin Ren 1) It has been said that Guixin - Ghost Heart (Daling PC 7) is actually Taiyuan Lu 9 (connecting these points may be of benefit). It is of popular belief that Guilu - Ghost Path (Shenmai BL 62) is actually Jianshi PC 5. Another text includes Shenting Du 24, Ruzhong ST 17, Yanglingquan GB 34, and Xingjian LR 2, and did not include Shenmai BL 62, Shangxing Du 23, Quchi LI 11, and Huiyin Ren 1. Tcm.health-info.org Die Chou Zeit und die Dämonenmedizin Vor etwa 2200 Jahren war man der Ansicht, dass Dämone die Verursacher von Krankheiten seien, und so wurden dann von böswilligen Menschen verschiedene giftige Insekten, Würmer und Schlangen in ein Gefäss gefüllt. Nach etwa 100 Tagen hätten diese Tiere sich gegenseitig gefressen, bis nur ein Tier, das giftigste - so die damalige Meinung - übrig blieb. Man nahm an, dass es das gesamte Gift des Ausgangsmaterials in sich vereinen würde. Dieses letzte Wurmtier wurde nun mit einem zweiten in ein Gefäss mit Wasser verbracht, worin sich die beiden miteinander vereinten. Der Samen des männlichen Tieres trieb an die Oberfläche und bildet dort das sog. ku-Gift (ku = chin. Bitter). Der " böswillige " Mensch nahm nun mit einem Nadelöhr dieses Gift auf und gab es - noch am gleichen Tag- in das Essen eines anderen Menschen. Sobald der Empfänger den ku-Samen zu sich genommen hatte, entwickelten sich daraus Würmer, die ihren Eltern glichen. Als Beweis für eine derartige ku-Vergiftung wurde es damals angesehen, wenn nach dem Ableben eines derartigen Opfers Würmer aus den Körperöffnungen der Leiche krochen. Wollte man feststellen, ob ein lebender Mensch unter dieses Dämonen litt, dann liess man ihn in Wasser spucken; im positiven Fall sank der Speichel nach unten. Das es sich bei dieser Geschichte um reinen Aberglauben handelt, ist für den modernen Menschen klar. Dennoch, zur damaligen Zeit wurden die Dämonen behandelt. Man erinnerte sich u.a. daran, dass Tausendfüssler Würmer fressen und verwendete diese in getrockneter Form dagegen. Seitdem gilt also auch heute noch - dass getrocknete Tausendfüssler ein probates Wurmmittel seien. Was geschieht nun, wenn ein unbefangener Besucher von dieser Indikation hört und daraufhin für seinen Praxisbedarf chinesische Tausendfüssler kauft? Mir ist nicht bekannt, ob dieses Mittel von " Kennern " hier in Europa gegen parasitäre Erkrankungen eingesetzt wird. Es ist aber vorstellbar, dass in dem ganzen System noch andere " Würmer " existieren, die nur durch profunde Kenntnis der Hintergründe vermieden werden können. Zu diesem Thema liefert Prof. Paul U. Unschuld weitergehende Informationen in seinem Buch " Medizin in China " . Es ist im Verlag C.H. Beck in München erschienen. Klaus Radloff Thanks, Sunny Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. To change your email settings, i.e. individually, daily digest or none, visit the groups' homepage: Chinese Medicine/ click 'edit my membership' on the right hand side and adjust accordingly. To send an email to from the email account you joined with. You will be removed automatically but will still recieve messages for a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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