Guest guest Posted March 25, 2004 Report Share Posted March 25, 2004 Atillio, >> Another little thing is that too much Qi can cause Fire. Never knew >> that and always wondered if you could have too much Qi. So there's a >> theory for you. > I believe the original quote is Qi4 Yo3 Yu2 Bian4 Shi4 Huo3, which > translates literally to " Excessive Qi is fire. " I guess this is why Huo3 > Qi4 is such a common term in daily life. What is translated here as " excessive " is confusing because it collapses two concepts into one; it does not mean " too much qi " -- it means " superabundant qi, " exhuberant yang qi giving rise to fire patterns from an insufficiency of yin. You3 yu2 (superabundance) is not shi2 (repletion/excess); repletion refers to the strength of evil qi or the accumulation of physiological products such as phlegm-rheum, water-damp, stagnant blood, etc. You3 yu2 references the pathomechanism of vacuous yin. Bob Robert L. Felt bob Paradigm Publications www.paradigm-pubs.com 202 Bendix Drive 505 758 7758 Taos, New Mexico 87571 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2004 Report Share Posted March 25, 2004 Interesting. I must admit that I too understood that too much yang/qi (not necessarily a RELATIVE excess due to a yin deficiency) in one area/location can transform into heat and that extreme heat is fire. The typical example I think of here is severe or long-term qi stagnation resulting in fire from this process. Is this correct? ie. there are two basic mechanisms of qi forming fire? ONe relative, and one absolute? This is certainly my understanding and a concept that seems to fit well with the yin/yang pathologies. Steve On 26/03/2004, at 2:44 AM, Robert L. Felt wrote: > Atillio, > >>> Another little thing is that too much Qi can cause Fire. Never knew >>> that and always wondered if you could have too much Qi. So there's a >>> theory for you. > >> I believe the original quote is Qi4 Yo3 Yu2 Bian4 Shi4 Huo3, which >> translates literally to " Excessive Qi is fire. " I guess this is why >> Huo3 >> Qi4 is such a common term in daily life. > > What is translated here as " excessive " is confusing because it > collapses two > concepts into one; it does not mean " too much qi " -- it means > " superabundant qi, " exhuberant yang qi giving rise to fire patterns > from an > insufficiency of yin. You3 yu2 (superabundance) is not shi2 > (repletion/excess); repletion refers to the strength of evil qi or the > accumulation of physiological products such as phlegm-rheum, > water-damp, > stagnant blood, etc. You3 yu2 references the pathomechanism of vacuous > yin. > > Bob > > Robert L. Felt bob > Paradigm Publications www.paradigm-pubs.com > 202 Bendix Drive 505 758 7758 > Taos, New Mexico 87571 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2004 Report Share Posted March 25, 2004 Any Excess is ultimately born of a Deficiency. Is there really an Excess at all? One wonders at the intriguing concept of treating an Excess with a reinforcing turn to the needle. Dr. Holmes Keikobad MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ www.acu-free.com - 15 CEUS by video for acupuncture recertification. NCCAOM reviewed. Also CA NM AZ MA and most states. $ 299 all 50 states in US. S & H and tax included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2004 Report Share Posted March 25, 2004 IMO it is a question of friction. To much friction causes heat and then fire, if there is a substance that can burn. Just like a comet that moves through the atmosphere or when you make up fire. Very Yang this speedy activity. Stagnation can lead to friction if there is a high Yang activity. But can there be fire if there is no substance that can burn? Holger Wendt Chinese Medicine , Steven Slater <dragonslive@i...> wrote: > Interesting. I must admit that I too understood that too much yang/qi > (not necessarily a RELATIVE excess due to a yin deficiency) in one > area/location can transform into heat and that extreme heat is fire. > The typical example I think of here is severe or long-term qi > stagnation resulting in fire from this process. > > Is this correct? ie. there are two basic mechanisms of qi forming fire? > ONe relative, and one absolute? This is certainly my understanding and > a concept that seems to fit well with the yin/yang pathologies. > > Steve > > On 26/03/2004, at 2:44 AM, Robert L. Felt wrote: > > > Atillio, > > > >>> Another little thing is that too much Qi can cause Fire. Never knew > >>> that and always wondered if you could have too much Qi. So there's a > >>> theory for you. > > > >> I believe the original quote is Qi4 Yo3 Yu2 Bian4 Shi4 Huo3, which > >> translates literally to " Excessive Qi is fire. " I guess this is why > >> Huo3 > >> Qi4 is such a common term in daily life. > > > > What is translated here as " excessive " is confusing because it > > collapses two > > concepts into one; it does not mean " too much qi " -- it means > > " superabundant qi, " exhuberant yang qi giving rise to fire patterns > > from an > > insufficiency of yin. You3 yu2 (superabundance) is not shi2 > > (repletion/excess); repletion refers to the strength of evil qi or the > > accumulation of physiological products such as phlegm-rheum, > > water-damp, > > stagnant blood, etc. You3 yu2 references the pathomechanism of vacuous > > yin. > > > > Bob > > > > Robert L. Felt bob@p... > > Paradigm Publications www.paradigm-pubs.com > > 202 Bendix Drive 505 758 7758 > > Taos, New Mexico 87571 > > > Mobile: 0418 343 545 > chinese_medicine@m... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2004 Report Share Posted March 25, 2004 Hi ooohhh, careful with statements like that ... Where would excess heat due to exterior summer heat fit into your statement? The excess heat might later on cause a deficiency. :\ fred > > Dr. Holmes Keikobad [acuheal] > Thursday, March 25, 2004 8:10 PM > Chinese Medicine > Re: " Excessive qi? " > > > Any Excess is ultimately born of a Deficiency. > Is there really an Excess at all? > > One wonders at the intriguing concept of treating an Excess with a > reinforcing turn to the needle. > > Dr. Holmes Keikobad > MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ > www.acu-free.com - 15 CEUS by video for acupuncture > recertification. NCCAOM > reviewed. Also CA NM AZ MA and most states. $ 299 all 50 states > in US. S & H > and tax included. > > > > > Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, > religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. > > To change your email settings, i.e. individually, daily digest or > none, visit the groups’ homepage: > Chinese Medicine/ click > ‘edit my membership' on the right hand side and adjust accordingly. > > To send an email to > <Chinese Medicine- > from > the email account you joined with. You will be removed > automatically but will still recieve messages for a few days. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2004 Report Share Posted March 25, 2004 Bob, I like your metaphors here. In anatomy you can see it so simply. If there are no muscle antagonists, then principle muscles will contract ... in sometimes painful ways. A common injury is to the radial nerve in the posterior of the arm a few inches distal to the shoulder. The muscles that would be in opposition to the biceps and flexors of the wrist and fingers would be paralyzed. Thus, the biceps and flexors would develop a contracture. So you need opposing forces in balanced amounts for normal functioning to proceed. Others have noted that excess yang due to yin deficiency is the cause of this rising fire. But as you've noted the amount is not excessive or would not be excessive if only it was balanced with it's opposite. Your expressions below are great. Thank you. Emmanuel Segmen - Robert L. Felt Chinese Medicine Thursday, March 25, 2004 7:44 AM " Excessive qi? " Atillio, >> Another little thing is that too much Qi can cause Fire. Never knew that and always wondered if you could have too much Qi. So there's a theory for you. > I believe the original quote is Qi4 Yo3 Yu2 Bian4 Shi4 Huo3, which translates literally to " Excessive Qi is fire. " I guess this is why Huo3 Qi4 is such a common term in daily life. What is translated here as " excessive " is confusing because it collapses two concepts into one; it does not mean " too much qi " -- it means " superabundant qi, " exhuberant yang qi giving rise to fire patterns from an insufficiency of yin. You3 yu2 (superabundance) is not shi2 (repletion/excess); repletion refers to the strength of evil qi or the accumulation of physiological products such as phlegm-rheum, water-damp, stagnant blood, etc. You3 yu2 references the pathomechanism of vacuous yin. Bob Robert L. Felt bob Paradigm Publications www.paradigm-pubs.com 202 Bendix Drive 505 758 7758 Taos, New Mexico 87571 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2004 Report Share Posted March 25, 2004 Bob, Thanks for further differentiation beyond the literal translation! I think you are equating You3 Yu2(superabundance) to Xu1 Huo3 (vacuity fire). What's a good translation for Shi2 Huo3? Mike L. " Robert L. Felt " <bob wrote: Atillio, >> Another little thing is that too much Qi can cause Fire. Never knew >> that and always wondered if you could have too much Qi. So there's a >> theory for you. > I believe the original quote is Qi4 Yo3 Yu2 Bian4 Shi4 Huo3, which > translates literally to " Excessive Qi is fire. " I guess this is why Huo3 > Qi4 is such a common term in daily life. What is translated here as " excessive " is confusing because it collapses two concepts into one; it does not mean " too much qi " -- it means " superabundant qi, " exhuberant yang qi giving rise to fire patterns from an insufficiency of yin. You3 yu2 (superabundance) is not shi2 (repletion/excess); repletion refers to the strength of evil qi or the accumulation of physiological products such as phlegm-rheum, water-damp, stagnant blood, etc. You3 yu2 references the pathomechanism of vacuous yin. Bob Robert L. Felt bob Paradigm Publications www.paradigm-pubs.com 202 Bendix Drive 505 758 7758 Taos, New Mexico 87571 Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. To change your email settings, i.e. individually, daily digest or none, visit the groups?homepage: Chinese Medicine/ click #58637;dit my membership' on the right hand side and adjust accordingly. To send an email to <Chinese Medicine- > from the email account you joined with. You will be removed automatically but will still recieve messages for a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 In terms of " excessive Qi, " I believe that it is an issue of distribution rather than amount. In other words, the " excess " pathology is a matter of Qi being pathologically concentrated or compressed, as opposed to being excessive in amount. Does this concentration of Qi into one region necessarily imply the deficiency of Qi in another region? Probably. Does such an imbalance imly that the deficiency lies at the root of the pattern? I think not. - David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 All theories are just that, it it the practical application that confirms them. My extensive experimentation has shown me That excess is not born out of Def. and the direction one turns the needle is as important as the acupuncture points one uses. other wise, l instead of healing we will generate dis-ease. IMHO the concepts of structural misalingment and emotional holding are crucial to the undrstanding of this subject salvador _ >Any Excess is ultimately born of a Deficiency. >Is there really an Excess at all? > >One wonders at the intriguing concept of treating an Excess with a >reinforcing turn to the needle. > >Dr. Holmes Keikobad >> _______________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 This is my understanding as well David Steve On 26/03/2004, at 2:46 PM, David Karchmer wrote: > In terms of " excessive Qi, " I believe that it is an issue of > distribution rather than amount. In other words, the " excess " > pathology is a matter of Qi being pathologically concentrated or > compressed, as opposed to being excessive in amount. Does this > concentration of Qi into one region necessarily imply the deficiency > of Qi in another region? Probably. Does such an imbalance imly that > the deficiency lies at the root of the pattern? I think not. > > - David > > > > Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, > religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. > > To change your email settings, i.e. individually, daily digest or > none, visit the groups’ homepage: > Chinese Medicine/ click > ‘edit my membership' on the right hand side and adjust accordingly. > > To send an email to > <Chinese Medicine- > from the > email account you joined with. You will be removed automatically but > will still recieve messages for a few days. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 Hi Bob and Mike, I'll try my hand for Shi2 Huo3. Shi2 means true or actual. Huo3 is fire. So Shi2 Huo3 would be fire due to actual heat like from a hot day or from eating hot, spicy food. We just had a dry 3-week heat wave here that hit suddenly from our normally chilly spring. I saw people complaining of headaches, eye inflammations, and quick anger from liver fire. Now it's cool again, and all of this has subsided. I sense that the heat wave brought on examples of Shi2 Huo3. So much anger (liver fire) is a cover for unresolved grief or sadness. Spring is sometimes a time to go back and face and finish sadnesses incurred in previous seasons of the year. I'm reminded, too, that spring has the highest rate of suicides. Unresolved winter depression is uncovered in spring. Respectfully, Emmanuel Segmen Bob, Thanks for further differentiation beyond the literal translation! I think you are equating You3 Yu2(superabundance) to Xu1 Huo3 (vacuity fire). What's a good translation for Shi2 Huo3? Mike L. " Robert L. Felt " <bob wrote: Atillio, >> Another little thing is that too much Qi can cause Fire. Never knew >> that and always wondered if you could have too much Qi. So there's a >> theory for you. > I believe the original quote is Qi4 Yo3 Yu2 Bian4 Shi4 Huo3, which > translates literally to " Excessive Qi is fire. " I guess this is why Huo3 > Qi4 is such a common term in daily life. What is translated here as " excessive " is confusing because it collapses two concepts into one; it does not mean " too much qi " -- it means " superabundant qi, " exhuberant yang qi giving rise to fire patterns from an insufficiency of yin. You3 yu2 (superabundance) is not shi2 (repletion/excess); repletion refers to the strength of evil qi or the accumulation of physiological products such as phlegm-rheum, water-damp, stagnant blood, etc. You3 yu2 references the pathomechanism of vacuous yin. Bob Robert L. Felt bob Paradigm Publications www.paradigm-pubs.com 202 Bendix Drive 505 758 7758 Taos, New Mexico 87571 Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. To change your email settings, i.e. individually, daily digest or none, visit the groups?homepage: Chinese Medicine/ click #58637;dit my membership' on the right hand side and adjust accordingly. To send an email to <Chinese Medicine- > from the email account you joined with. You will be removed automatically but will still recieve messages for a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 hi there, xu and shi just are two oppsite adjectives like yin and yang. there are five elements; wood, fire, earth, metal and water. if one or more of other elements except fire is/are under the balance level, then the false appearance will appear; it seems to you that the fire is too strong than other elements, and we call it " xu huo " . syho Chinese Medicine , " Emmanuel Segmen " <susegmen@i...> wrote: > Hi Bob and Mike, > > I'll try my hand for Shi2 Huo3. Shi2 means true or actual. > Huo3 is fire. So Shi2 Huo3 would be fire due to actual heat > like from a hot day or from eating hot, spicy food. We just > had a dry 3-week heat wave here that hit suddenly from our > > Respectfully, > Emmanuel Segmen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 Hi all, If we put excessive Qi into the frame of Yin and Yang, then i think excessive Qi is Yang in nature and not necessarily attributed to a deficiency of Yin. Excessive Yang can well lead to Fire. But how does that fit into the excessive Yang aspect of children. They are Yang in nature as they grow quickly like young flowers in Spring, but they have no Fire aspect or are Yin deficient. So there may be a number of Yang excessive syndromes, some natural like children and some un-natural like Fire. Attilio Steven Slater <dragonslive@i...> wrote: > Interesting. I must admit that I too understood that too much yang/qi > (not necessarily a RELATIVE excess due to a yin deficiency) in one > area/location can transform into heat and that extreme heat is fire. > The typical example I think of here is severe or long-term qi > stagnation resulting in fire from this process. > > Is this correct? ie. there are two basic mechanisms of qi forming fire? > ONe relative, and one absolute? This is certainly my understanding and > a concept that seems to fit well with the yin/yang pathologies. > > Steve > > On 26/03/2004, at 2:44 AM, Robert L. Felt wrote: > > > Atillio, > > > >>> Another little thing is that too much Qi can cause Fire. Never knew > >>> that and always wondered if you could have too much Qi. So there's a > >>> theory for you. > > > >> I believe the original quote is Qi4 Yo3 Yu2 Bian4 Shi4 Huo3, which > >> translates literally to " Excessive Qi is fire. " I guess this is why > >> Huo3 > >> Qi4 is such a common term in daily life. > > > > What is translated here as " excessive " is confusing because it > > collapses two > > concepts into one; it does not mean " too much qi " -- it means > > " superabundant qi, " exhuberant yang qi giving rise to fire patterns > > from an > > insufficiency of yin. You3 yu2 (superabundance) is not shi2 > > (repletion/excess); repletion refers to the strength of evil qi or the > > accumulation of physiological products such as phlegm-rheum, > > water-damp, > > stagnant blood, etc. You3 yu2 references the pathomechanism of vacuous > > yin. > > > > Bob > > > > Robert L. Felt bob@p... > > Paradigm Publications www.paradigm-pubs.com > > 202 Bendix Drive 505 758 7758 > > Taos, New Mexico 87571 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 I am sort of getting into this thread laterally, and may sound out of context, but as they say somewhere, the intentions are good! Qi is in a closed circuit, commencing at LU 9 and ending there, exactly after 100 marks on the clepsydra have been passed; which is 120 x 12 minutes. It is never late, never early, always on time by the solar clock. It traverses the same pathway, taking the same exact time to do it. If it were in Excess, perhaps it would arrive early. If it were in Depletion, which is the tail end of Excess, it would arrive late. In which case the clepsydra would register 110 marks in the first case, and 90 in the second. How can a 'fluid' sort of energy run in Excess, which is expanded and under greater pressure [see the changes Excess causes in channels]; and not be more than what it should be in terms of quantum? Puzzling. And if one sector ran Excess at the cost of another which ran rare and deficient, the end point where qi emerges should shift? Hem. Should have stayed out of the thread. Dr. Holmes Keikobad MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ www.acu-free.com - 15 CEUS by video for acupuncture recertification. NCCAOM reviewed. Also CA NM AZ MA and most states. $ 299 all 50 states in US. S & H and tax included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 Hi Emmanuel, Bob, Syho, et al, Thanks for a lot of attempts to explain what Shi Huo and Xu Huo are! I agree with all that. My question about Shi Huo was to look for one English word to translate to, analogous to " superaboundant " Bob used for Xu Huo. I didn't have problem with the meaning of it. Now, getting back to Qi You Yu Bian Shi Huo. Does the Qi You Yu here equates to nothing else but Xu Huo? Mike Emmanuel Segmen <susegmen wrote: Hi Bob and Mike, I'll try my hand for Shi2 Huo3. Shi2 means true or actual. Huo3 is fire. So Shi2 Huo3 would be fire due to actual heat like from a hot day or from eating hot, spicy food. We just had a dry 3-week heat wave here that hit suddenly from our normally chilly spring. I saw people complaining of headaches, eye inflammations, and quick anger from liver fire. Now it's cool again, and all of this has subsided. I sense that the heat wave brought on examples of Shi2 Huo3. So much anger (liver fire) is a cover for unresolved grief or sadness. Spring is sometimes a time to go back and face and finish sadnesses incurred in previous seasons of the year. I'm reminded, too, that spring has the highest rate of suicides. Unresolved winter depression is uncovered in spring. Respectfully, Emmanuel Segmen Bob, Thanks for further differentiation beyond the literal translation! I think you are equating You3 Yu2(superabundance) to Xu1 Huo3 (vacuity fire). What's a good translation for Shi2 Huo3? Mike L. " Robert L. Felt " <bob wrote: Atillio, >> Another little thing is that too much Qi can cause Fire. Never knew >> that and always wondered if you could have too much Qi. So there's a >> theory for you. > I believe the original quote is Qi4 Yo3 Yu2 Bian4 Shi4 Huo3, which > translates literally to " Excessive Qi is fire. " I guess this is why Huo3 > Qi4 is such a common term in daily life. What is translated here as " excessive " is confusing because it collapses two concepts into one; it does not mean " too much qi " -- it means " superabundant qi, " exhuberant yang qi giving rise to fire patterns from an insufficiency of yin. You3 yu2 (superabundance) is not shi2 (repletion/excess); repletion refers to the strength of evil qi or the accumulation of physiological products such as phlegm-rheum, water-damp, stagnant blood, etc. You3 yu2 references the pathomechanism of vacuous yin. Bob Robert L. Felt bob Paradigm Publications www.paradigm-pubs.com 202 Bendix Drive 505 758 7758 Taos, New Mexico 87571 Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. To change your email settings, i.e. individually, daily digest or none, visit the groups?homepage: Chinese Medicine/ click #58637;dit my membership' on the right hand side and adjust accordingly. To send an email to <Chinese Medicine- > from the email account you joined with. You will be removed automatically but will still recieve messages for a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2004 Report Share Posted March 27, 2004 hi, all, i think the translation " superaboundant/excessive " is correct. qi means yang qi, the superaboundant yang qi might be caused by insufficiency of yin liquid, or, the superaboundant yang qi might be caused by the malfunction of channel like liver, gall, or stomach, leading the accumulation of yang qi. syho Chinese Medicine , Mike Liaw <mikeliaw> wrote: > Hi Emmanuel, Bob, Syho, et al, > > Thanks for a lot of attempts to explain what Shi Huo and Xu Huo are! > I agree with all that. My question about Shi Huo was to look for > one English word to translate to, analogous to " superaboundant " Bob > used for Xu Huo. I didn't have problem with the meaning of it. > > Now, getting back to Qi You Yu Bian Shi Huo. > Does the Qi You Yu here equates to nothing else but Xu Huo? > > Mike > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 Excessive Qi may be the result of stagnation or a deficinecy of Yin. I don't think Yang Qi can be excessive without a counter-weight. When Yang Qi is excessive with a counter-weight of a deficinecy of Yin, it will tranform into Yin. Both extremes transform into each other, so Heat turns into Cold and visa versa. Attilio " syho_real " <syho@a...> wrote: > > hi, all, > > i think the translation " superaboundant/excessive " is correct. > > qi means yang qi, the superaboundant yang qi might be caused by > insufficiency of yin liquid, > or, > the superaboundant yang qi might be caused by the malfunction of > channel like liver, gall, or stomach, leading the accumulation of yang qi. > > syho > > > Chinese Medicine , Mike Liaw > <mikeliaw> wrote: > > Hi Emmanuel, Bob, Syho, et al, > > > > Thanks for a lot of attempts to explain what Shi Huo and Xu Huo are! > > I agree with all that. My question about Shi Huo was to look for > > one English word to translate to, analogous to " superaboundant " Bob > > used for Xu Huo. I didn't have problem with the meaning of it. > > > > Now, getting back to Qi You Yu Bian Shi Huo. > > Does the Qi You Yu here equates to nothing else but Xu Huo? > > > > Mike > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 hi, Chinese Medicine , " Attilio DAlberto " <attiliodalberto> wrote: > Excessive Qi may be the result of stagnation or a deficinecy of Yin. yes. to study theories is to learn how to draw inferences about other cases from one instance. > I don't think Yang Qi can be excessive without a counter-weight. > When Yang Qi is excessive with a counter-weight of a deficinecy of > Yin, it will tranform into Yin. Both extremes transform into each > other, so Heat turns into Cold and visa versa. > > Attilio > if a young man who has strong constitution (yin and yang are balance) takes a little bit more dose of ginseng, then he has the symptom of fire. should i consider that the ginseng cause stagnation or a deficinecy of yin? does the ginseng cause excess qi or cause stagnation or a deficinecy of yin? i always think if yin and yang could transform into each other i have no need to balance yin and yang with herbs or acupuncture i'm sorry for my english, english is not my mother tongue. syho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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