Guest guest Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 Wed, 24 Mar 2004 22:51:35 " suecochrane36 " <suecochrane wrote >Thanks Chris I will chase up the tapes. The seminar was held in >London - the details are in a posting 6 months ago - I will check the >venue to see if they recorded it. What is your area of study with >Master Yuan? >Sue Hi Sue, The book on the 8-Extra (BaMai QiJing)by Claude Larre and Elizabeth Rochat de la Vallee together with Jeffery C. Yuen's recorded lecture (cited in earlier message) constitute the most extended and in depth information (in English) on this topic that I have found. Royston Low's book on the Secondary Vessels has some interesting information. Way back ca. 1976, Dr. Leon Hammer published a detailed article on the 8-Extraordinary channels in a journal, with psychological aspects, and based, I think, on his study with Dr. Van Buren in the UK. Kikko Matsumoto co-authored a book on the 8-Extra which I have but haven't studied. All the information I have found in TCM sources is uniformly sketchy and unenlightening. TCM gives some lip service to constitutional and life-process issues (which is the level at which Larre/Rochat and Yuen interpret this channel system), but in fact appears intent on obliterating that part of tradition. My study with Jeffery (as he's called most often by his students and colleagues)is within the distance learning PhD program in Classical Chinese Medicine at the American University of Complementary Medicine in LA, California (http://www.aucm.org). The core of the program is studying the sources and Jeffery's interpretations of the NeiJing (SuWen), ZhenJing (LingShu), NanJing, ShangHanLun, and the " 4 great masters/schools " of the Song-Jin-Yuan period. These are studied in terms of philosophy/theory, but also in terms of clinical application (One of the amazing features of Jeffery's teaching is that these two aspects are intimately interconnected.). Other core areas are the Primary Channels, Sinew Channel, Luo channel, Divergent channel, and 8-Extra channel systems -- also in terms of theory and clinical application. Then there are electives, such as classical needling, emergency CM, pediatrics, FuKe (Ob-Gyn) etc., also considered in terms of viewpoints of the various classical schools of thought. It's a rigorous PhD program, so there's required study of statistics, research methodology, etc., and a full dissertation program. I had been attending Jeffery's lectures often as CEU classes. The PhD program provides me the opportunity to really go into the material in depth, and be held responsible for assimilating and using it (unlike CEU classes). Within a framework of understanding basic CM energetics (Wei/Ying/Yuan levels, which Jeffery explains often in the course of the available recorded lectures), he attempts to teach each particular system (e.g. channel system, or historical school), " as if it were the only true way " , i.e. to really immerse into and live it clinically. One result of this study is getting to know where the bits and pieces, patched together as " TCM " , originally came from, and in fact how they can be made to work by understanding the context and viewpoint where they emerged. Perhaps more importantly, one sees that there is significantly more knowledge/wisdom in the classical traditions than in TCM, which, from this perspective, can be seen as just another specific historical school of thought, actually heavily focused on westernization ( " modernization " ). Another important facet of Jeffery's teaching is that he attempts to demonstrate the richness of interpreting the classical material on one's own, and puts forth his own (rather brilliant) interpretations as examples to show others how this can be done, rather than encouraging his ideas to be taken literally as dogma. , L.Ac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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