Now: oneness and complexity

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Hugo, Attilio and All,

 

What I've learned as a scientist with the help of CM and oral traditions in

taoism and sufism is this. Life is a whole thing ... one thing. It's

manifested in an infinite complexity of individuals cells as organism as well as

billions of cells as organisms. I am one such organism ... a representative of

this realm called life. Life in itself has unifying principles that is honored

by CM. The individuals are just that. Many different parts that go into making

the whole. Life, the unifying principle(s) can be seen in each part, yet the

parts are different and have integrity in their differences. The whole has

integrity and the parts have their integrity. There is a balance between these

poles.

 

Hugo, you have integrity. I have no argument with you. I meant balance your

commentary that it is " false " to view individuals as other than identical to

each other. My balancing comment is that the oneness comes from the larger

enterprise of life. I felt that your comments had integrity and that which you

called " false " also had integrity. My initial comment was only whimsical, but

then I decided to present the balance more fully. I don't feel at all

" entrenched " with you ... though perhaps " bonded " in Life with you. Your

comments have integrity. I feel it's worthy to say so on list.

 

In Friendship and Respect,

Emmanuel Segmen

 

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Hugo Ramiro

Chinese Medicine

Tuesday, May 04, 2004 6:54 PM

Re: The human blueprint (was " you lost me there " )

 

 

Hi Emmanuel - I'm really sorry to bother you, but I'm

a little frustrated. It's probably my 'fault' for not

writing clearly enough...but I do feel that you're not

even minimally dealing with my questions and points...

and I think that your jargon only clouds the issues.

Even if the issue is not clouded for most, I'm left

feeling 'empty', like I've had everything snatched

from me and still have no better understanding.

 

haha, for example, what is this???

 

> histocompatibility complex protein proves that

 

If you mean to say that the above reliably allows you

to discern compatibility or not, then I'd have to

state that that is due to similarity. It is only

because of the fundamental laws that these proteins

are bound by that you can make any sense at all of

what they are doing! i.e., fundamentally similar. You

can rely on them to behave in the same way all (most)

of the time. Repeatability, reproducibility -> due to

similarity.

 

Anyway, I hope you will deal with my point this time,

because otherwise I can't understand or learn from

you, and I /am/ interested in your posts, Emmanuel.

 

I know you could quickly outstrip me in the details,

but you've said nothing new to me in your post below

(I realise that it is very basic), and you don't seem

to deal with the one point I am making. I just thought

of a new way to put it: Just because you find it too

complicated, don't think that that is proof of a real

dissimilarity.

 

Anyway, hope you can help me understand what you are

trying to say. And if you can't, know that I have read

your post carefully several times and that I learned

something from the way you expressed the details.

 

Somehow, I think that the major problem is a

misunderstanding of one another's terms...

 

Thanks, and my apologies,

Hugo

 

--- Emmanuel Segmen <susegmen wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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