Guest guest Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Attillo said: " When I can create muscle spasms, menier's symdrome, IBS, excema and many more horrific disorders by wrong treatments I am left with the conclusion that Acupuncture is a deadly art as much as a wonderful healing modality. A scalpel in the hands of surgeon is a wondrous instrument in the hands of a child it is a nightmare. I have just been treating an acupuncture student that has spent 5 years with another acupuncturist, she was in a serious mess and had no idea why. " Could you explain more please? I can understand how a muscle spasm and transient vertigo might have occurred but not Meniere's disease. Are you saying acupuncture " caused " IBS eczema thru inappropriate use or a patient exhibited signs of eczema after acupuncture. As a homeopath it is a very good sign if someone who has asthma then starts getting skin disease like eczema because the toxins are clearing. Homeopaths look to Hering’s Law of Cure to see movement towards balance. A shift in symptoms From head to toe (a rash moving down the body). A shift from deeper parts of the body to the surface (asthma changing to eczema); Old symptoms start to appear in reverse order. This is the equivalent of the body having a spring cleaning, clearing out old symptoms that have previously been suppressed. It is curative. Are you implying that someone who never had a suppressed rash or wart with chemicals or silver nitrate which drove the toxins in deeper (The skin looked pretty but the insides became more toxic)developed eczema just from using needles? If so could you dig deeper into the case history to see if there was any suppression with antibiotics or steroids or skin creamsand tell us. I'll bet they might have had poison ivy or oak as a kid and suppressed it with calomine lotion which can often in susceptible people bring on asthma or arthritis in later years and when those become suppressed even more with more steroids it can turn into even deeper disease like heart trouble. Thanks, Sunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Hi Sonny, I DID NOT say this below. Please check your source again. Attilio Sacredqi888 <sacredqi888@n...> wrote: > > > Attillo said: > " When I can create muscle spasms, menier's symdrome, IBS, excema and > many more horrific disorders by wrong treatments I am left with the > conclusion that Acupuncture is a deadly art as much as a wonderful > healing modality. A scalpel in the hands of surgeon is a wondrous > instrument in the hands of a child it is a nightmare. > > I have just been treating an acupuncture student that has spent 5 > years with another acupuncturist, she was in a serious mess and had > no idea why. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Just for info, this came from Salvador Regards Mark Chinese Medicine , " Attilio DAlberto " <attiliodalberto> wrote: > Hi Sonny, > > I DID NOT say this below. Please check your source again. > > Attilio > > Sacredqi888 <sacredqi888@n...> wrote: > > > > > > Attillo said: > > " When I can create muscle spasms, menier's symdrome, IBS, excema > and > > many more horrific disorders by wrong treatments I am left with > the > > conclusion that Acupuncture is a deadly art as much as a wonderful > > healing modality. A scalpel in the hands of surgeon is a wondrous > > instrument in the hands of a child it is a nightmare. > > > > I have just been treating an acupuncture student that has spent 5 > > years with another acupuncturist, she was in a serious mess and > had > > no idea why. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 Hi Sunny The Homeopath view on the law of cure is also part of the 5 Element curiculum in which I was initially trained. I don't honestly know if it is a theory that acurately reflects reality. I can only go by my expericences and knowledge gathered to date. I will categorically state that I have seen many patients develop excema as a result of long term treatment with acupuncture. Why should this be so? For an answer I look as to the reasons of excema in the first place for which there are number. the most obvious one is that excema is the result of damage probably as a result of long term tension in the colon , large intestine organ AS most of you will be aware the large intestine is held and bends under the left and right ribs by the liver and spleen. Any long term contraction in either of these areas will after a time damage the intestinal wall mnaking toxins available to the blood and leading to excema. There are more reasons but this will sufice as an example. If the result of stress is involuntary tension and the result of efective acupuncture is the release of such tension. Then it is not far fetched to assume that the result of wrong acupuncture will also be the promotion of involuntary tension. Depending on which acupuncture points / meridians one intervenes so different part of the structure / organs / hormones will become disturbed leading to the development of different body disharmonies. I will also categoricall state that as a result of observations over many years many people have become very sick and it has nothing to do with the law of cure and everything to with innapropriate acupuncture. This is the reason why I disagree with the assertion made on this forum that we should expedite the number of acupuncturists on the 'field'. It is also the reason why I disagree with the use of prescriptive acupuncture. There are a great many theories floating in the acupuncture world which sound lovely and spiritual. In fact many deeply spiritual people are attracted to acupuncture. Yet we need to keep our feet on the ground and our critical faculties sharp otherwise we will delude ourselves and learn very little. I am all for acupuncture I think it is the single greatest tool available to mankind to heal ourselves with when it is used appropiatedly and with understanding. _________________ > Could you explain more please? I can understand how a muscle spasm and transient vertigo might have occurred but not Meniere's disease. Are you saying acupuncture " caused " IBS eczema thru inappropriate use or a patient exhibited signs of eczema after acupuncture. > > As a homeopath it is a very good sign if someone who has asthma then starts getting skin disease like eczema because the toxins are clearing. > > > Sunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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