SV: [pa-l] TCM v WM DIagnosis - and why it could be crucial

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In a message dated 9/28/2004 2:35:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

arethore writes:

Chris wrote:

> I don't know of any Acupuncturists in Florida with an MRI or high

> definition X-ray equipment in their offices.

> Therefore, we would definitely get to refer out to check for

> circulation or growth abnormalities. We simply can diagnose

> absolutely what is involved without scanning equipment. To think

> otherwise, puts you and your patients in a precarious position.

> Maybe I misunderstood the meaning of your post.

 

Phil erote:

Chris, in the paragraph, above, did you mean to say: " We simply

CANNOT diagnose absolutely what is involved without scanning

equipment " ?

If so, I agree. That is why I asked the question: how long do TCM

practitioners wait before referring to a WM GP/specialist what

could be a very serious case?

 

Are write;

I disagree with Chris and Phil, on the following basis. I have, several

times, had dog patients sent from the Veterinary School of Oslo, where they

have been diagnosed (by X-ray and/scanner and/or other expensive equipment)

to have a disc-prolapse between some lumbar vertebrae. Usually, or nearly

always, I find the vertebral problem several vertebrae cranial to where the

diagnosis from Vet-chool has been. When I then manipulate the vertebrae that

I have found, then, in just a few minutes, the dog seem to be cured, and

stays like that for a long time, months or years. The conclusion is then

that expensive equipment did not give the right diagnosis, so why then

bother?

 

Best regards,

Are

 

Are Simeon Thoresen

 

 

Are,

 

I believe the original question was posed because of the potential of

overlooking the possibility of abnormality that would be observed through

imaging

or other tests. Not the example you gave.

It is easy to get the meanings of posts confused and reply with a

response that does not match the intent of the original post.

 

The point is, (I believe), if you have any questions about a potential

hidden pathology, refer out to someone who has diagnostic tests available that

may very well save your patient and your practice.

 

The biggest reason DRs refer out is in part odds. Odds are, when you see

a lot of people, you could miss something that could cause undo pain and

suffering. If you do, then a law suit may come your way. Best way to avoid

this

and help your patients, is to ask for help through referrals. Not only does

it protect your liability, it helps the person who may have problems that may

not have been found otherwise.

 

Hopefully this makes sense.

 

All the best,

 

Chris