Guest guest Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 Hugo Ramiro <subincor (Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:08:09 +0100 (BST)) wrote (I've use some citations here out of original order, for rhetorical purposes): >Oral tradition is the root, foundation, base and pillar of human society. Direct transmission is the only way. Books are beautiful things, and they are inflexible THINGS and do not begin to compare with a living, breathing g-d standing before you. > Question - what's confusing about it other than that modern people are trying to achieve Direct Transmission through literature? Some related thoughts (apologizing if diverging from strictly TCM topics): There're fascinating aspects surrounding what happens when written language (literary tradition) emerges. 1) We are able to talk to each other across time and space, albeit without that immediate presence (that I think Hugo depicts above). Or, at least we can convey the linguistic content of communication. We can see it as an enhancement to oral transmission. The latter is subject to the phenomenon as seen in the parlor game - someone whispers something to the next, who whispers it to the next, and so forth around the circle, then the last version is compared with the first version, which is often quite, humorously different. Written form helps counter this effect, its very inflexibility provides an anchor, from which individuals, at different times, can bring the transmission to life, by interpreting it. (The various translations of neijing text, for instance, often read like that parlor game.) Inflexible, but in the act of interpretation, bringing back to life, highly flexible. Clearly, recorded/written transmission needs the oral, the human touch. Language, of which both are a form, does. Years ago I lived with a family in Germany, and was struggling to develop my literary fluency with the language (I could read tracts of Musikwissenschaft, whole books by Hegel, and the librettos to Bach contatas) into a conversational fluency (I couldn't understand the conductor on the train, or waiters at restaurants, or read a newspaper). The 2-yo child in the family was going through the stage: " Was ist das, papi? " (pointing to something), " Was ist das… " ( " What is that? " ) while papi (daddy) would then give the (German) word or phrase. Being in my mid-30s at the time, my neurolinguistic flexibility was somewhat less than the kid's, but this kind of exercise was exactly what I needed. And learning by imitation, in the Kneipe (pub/bar), how just the right intonation of what actually comes out as just a sort grunt is more communicative than the meticulously exact pronunciation (of the student). On another note, musical notation enables us to have preserved, say, the late string quartets by L. von Beethoven. Some can experience the content by " reading " it (viewing the score), but only on the basis of equivalent cultivation to those who can sit down with violins, viola and cello and perform it. And with a good performance, one can share the experience of something difficult to describe - more than emotion, transmission of human experience, of the movement of consciousness through time and through experience spaces which dear old Ludwig was able to capture. And, because of the notation (together with the orally/directly transmitted performance tradition), the musical pieces become more than his/Ludwig's own. To explain, again, off in another direction: The image of a dove is used in Christian art to symbolize the " holy spirit " , which is sometimes (theologically) interpreted as the COMMUNICATION between the Father Spirit/G*d and the Son (Christ/human). Altogether this is the " holy trinity " , a sort of symbolic representation of something of the complexity of the G*d concept in that tradition. Why the dove? Because it flies life words between people, and with the breath/ " spiritus " . The dove appears especially in depictions of the apocryphal event called " Pentecost " , where supposedly Christ came back from death to a gathering of disciples, who then were given the " gift of tongues " , i.e. the ability to be understood in/across multiple languages. (Apologizing for the Christian examples, but it's, like music and by virtue of my education, a portal for my own particular access to the depths of culture.) In some native American symbology (and I suspect other " primitive " traditions), the bird has related meanings. And the hawk/eagle is closest to the Great Spirit because it flies so high. (Chinese dietary theory: the chicken/birds are strongly Yang, of heaven.) But words, writings, musical notations etc. in the end do not belong to individuals, e.g. the authors. They have their meaning because of being shared, transmitted. ( " Where two or more of you are gathered in my name, I am there [presumably in the form of the 'holy spirit'] amongst you. " - from somewhere in the Bible). The name is the word. 2) Cultural transformations occur with the emergence of writing. " In the beginning was the Word. " (en archein een ho logos - the opening of the gospel according to John, the metaphysician). The beginning of what? Of the modern, historical, literary era of our existence. At a period when simultaneously the Chinese, the Greeks, the Hebrews etc. began writing stuff down in a major way (ca. mid to late 1st millennium B.C., ignoring for the moment, Egyptian, Mesopotamian and other precursors). Strange things begin happening. Among which, eventually, the distinction between us and the " primitive " forebearers. This process is gradual. In that early era, the pre-literary and the numinous still permeated culture. By our time, there's a stricter distinction, aka prejudice vs the " primitive " . I.e. the common cartoon depiction of the dirty, long-haired, animal-skin clad early humans. 3) Transformation now More strange things happening now, e.g. the internet. How many of us who here exchange these messages have ever or will ever see, hear or touch each other? We share what someone once called the " nousphere " (or something like that, from " nous " Greek for mind, intelligence, perception), that space of words, of ideas. We mutually evoke the presence of HuangDi, of Zhang Ji, … down to the mid-20th century fathers of TCM in the PRC, to Paul Unschuld over there in Munich, Kim Taylor in Cambridge (whose mother, BTW, is/was Chinese) etc. etc. How does it relate to oral transmission when we will have (inevitably) something like those little cubes in the Star Wars movies which contain holographic images of dead persons communicating? And again, this doesn't belong to any of us, as individuals, but lives in each of us through sharing and transmitting it. The current fixation on " intellectual property " is probably one of the worst distortions of the current transformation, and, I believe, inherently self-limiting. Extorting money and control from every living person. Extreme case: patenting segments of the genetic code! Winding down… > In modern western culture, art is not valued - tools are. One can't mention the skill of the art, since it is irrelevant. On the other hand, their tools tell us much more about who they are, since we all know that art is useless whereas engineering is a sign of intelligence. However, their tools are crudely formed (from rocks, of all things), and these 'people', if we can even call them that, are obviously only worth study in the light of the word PRIMITIVE. Silicon comes from " rocks " . > Many traditions will take their children early one morning to watch the sunrise. Thank you for this beautiful vignette. It conveys something about that being-aliveness, aka being in the moment, e.g. in the qi of a treatment encounter. > The Tao De Ching clearly states that inflexibility belongs to the realm of the dead whilst suppleness belongs to the realm of the living. Tibetan Buddhism - The Great Liberation / Book of the Dead - sees it otherwise. The liver/gan (ceasing/inverting Yin) gives us the suppleness, and the rebirth of springtime. A good place to end. 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