YL: Gary Young's Wild Tales of Activities in Turkey

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Hi y'all,

 

This is and old one. Did y'all know that I once held a seat in the US

Congress? Yep .. sho'nuf did. Was during my Guthrie, KY, High School

trip to Washington, D.C. They let us yonkers in and I sat my butt down

in one'a them seats I did. And I once lectured at Harvard .. bet y'all

woulda never guessed that .. ;-p Was visiting the campus with my family

and one'a the younguns was acting up. My ex-wife always said I didn't

correct them, I lectured them. Anyway, after I read the beginnings of

Raindrop Therapy in Kathleen's fine on-line pub, the below sorta seemed

trivial .. but here it is. Butch

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More Turkish Things " Gary Young "

Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:16:00 +0200

Butchbsi (Butch Owen)

Aromatherapy

 

Folks,

 

Our buddy Graham asked me to check out a few things - and I did. I

posted this to Graham today and asked his permission to also post it to

the list. I haven't received an answer from him and it's possible that

he might be away. The end of this message contained the contents of TWO

messages received from Graham. For convenience, I consolidated them

into one format. Anyway, I decided to post it.

 

Dear Graham,

 

1. There are two universities in Izmir, Turkey: Dokuz Eylul and Ege.

Both universities are " accredited " but neither is " dedicated " to

Essential Oils or Aromatherapy. In fact, aromatherapy is not a big deal

here in Turkey!

 

a. Dokuz Eylul University: Gary Young has never been enrolled as a

student and has recieved no degrees from Dokuz Eylul University. This

information was obtained today from Mr. Enver Cukurkent (Office of

Student Records and Administration), Dokuz Eylul University.

 

b. Ege University: Gary Young has never been enrolled as a student and

has received no degrees from Ege University. This information is from

Professor Dr. Ayhan Ceylan (Faculty of Agriculture), Ms. Nimet Olali

(Health Sciences Department), and Ms. Ayse Durgan (Student Records and

Administration).

 

c. Professor Dr. Ceylan says that:

 

(1) GY has taught no courses FOR Ege University. He did hold a

seminar " AT " Ege University in 1996, but the organization of the seminar

was at the request of GY and was presented by GY to 90 Americans he

brought with him and 10-13 Turks who joined the group.

 

(2) Mr. Young contacted Ege University and requested assistance as

he wanted to present a seminar to people he was bringing with him. The

role of Ege University was ONLY to provide him a Conference Room and

coordinate hotel reservations. Mr. Young paid Ege University for their

efforts.

 

(3) The topic of the seminar was External Usage of Essential Oils.

 

(4) To say that a " two week course was taught at Ege University " is

somewhat misleading. A two week seminar was held at Ege University - in

an Ege University classroom - but NOT FOR THE UNIVERSITY!

 

2. Anadolu University. In Eskisehir, Turkey. The spelling of the name

of the university in Mr. Young's biography is incorrect.

 

a. Professor Doctor Mustafa Keviz, a lecturer at the Agriculture and

Plants Faculty, said today that there has never been any lectures given

at Anadolu University by Gary Young. Dr. Keviz says he often receives

requests for information on other " supposed " lectures similar to this

and often he must regretfully inform people that it's untrue. He felt

it necessary to warn that we should not easily believe people who say

they have lectured here and there as people like to play " tricks. "

Seems like very good advice.

 

b. Today, I also talked with my friend, Professor Doctor K. Husnu Can

(John) Basar, Dean of the Pharmacy Faculty and Director of the Medical

and Aromatic Plant and Medicine Research Center, Anadolu University.

Dr. Basar is a fine gentleman and an internationally well-known and

published authority on EOs and medicinal plants. Dr. Peter Wilde also

knows him well.

 

c. Dr. Basar knows Gary Young. In fact, he said that Gary Young is

there now - today - receiving instruction on the use of the Gas

Chromatography; GY requested the training and GY is paying for the GC

training. Anadolu University trains anyone willing to pay for training.

 

d. According to Dr. Basar:

 

(1) Gary Young has never presented (and will not present) any

lectures at Anadolu University.

 

(2) GY has NOT studied oil chemistry, absolute energy and gas

chromatography with him in 1998. Professor Basar asked what type of

" absolute energy " he is claiming to have studied. As I said, GY is

recieving instruction on the use of GC now - but not from Professor

Doctor Basar personally. Furthermore, Dr. Basar says Mr. Young WILL NOT

receive any type of certificate of training for this instruction.

 

(3) GY was not INVITED or sponsored by UNIDO (UN Industrial

Development Org.) in 1995 to present any papers or lecture at Anadolu

University. GY did show up and managed to convince some of the

officials of his expertise.. He was allowed to present two topics. His

presentation, in the opinion of Dr. Basar was, quote, " rubbish " and he

was challenged by many of the experts in attendance. He was challenged

in a MOST SEVERE manner when he quoted Bryan Lawrence, who was in the

audience and took extreme exception to the things GY was saying. His

presentation was not well accepted by those in attendance.

 

(4) Later, in September 1996, GY again wanted to attend the UNIDO

seminar at Anadolu and was refused admittance by UNIDO officials.

 

(5) Instead of attending the UNIDO function - GY conducted his own

seminar after renting an Ege University classroom.

 

(6) GY offered to pay Dr. Basar to lecture at his seminar held in

1996 in the rented Ege University classroom but Dr. Basar refused.

 

(7) GY has offered to provide Dr. Basar and Mrs. Basar an expenses

paid trip to the USA this year (1998) if Dr. Basar will lecture. Dr.

Basar says that he will refuse the kind invitation.

 

3. As for the World's Largest Conference in Istanbul in 1995 - there

was a conference - the 13th International Congress of Flavors, Fragances

and Essential Oils, held Oct 15-19, 1995. There were many attendees and

dozens of speakers - Dr. Peter F. Wilde presented the topic " Extracting

the Benefits " . There is no evidence that GY presented - but he might

have attended.

 

Regards,

 

Butch

 

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> Graham Sorenson wrote:

> >

> > Hi Butch..

> >

> > hope you are out of the snow. :-)

> >

> > Can you check these things related to Turkey and GY?

> >

> > Young Living Essential Oils, Inc. Update

> >

> > DR. GARY YOUNG AND 100 TLEO Distributors have just returned from

> > Izmir, Turkey, where Dr. Young received his Ph.D. in aromatherapy

> > and lectured at one of the only accredited colleges in the world

> > dedicated to essential oil and aromatherapy.

> >

> > Would it be possible to find out if there are any real

> > Colleges/Universities in Izmir that would have been the place where

> > Gary Young supposedly got his Ph.D.??

>

> > All info copied from his Bio on yl site http://www.youngliving.com

> > click on the picture of him and his wife to see the bios. He has

> > been a busy person :-) and this is only the " highlights " ???? :-)

> >

> > here are the particular references.

> >

> > 1998: Studied oil chemistry, absolute energy and gas chromatography

> > and interpretation with Dr. Baser at Andula University in Eskisehir,

> > Turkey.

> >

> > 1996: November taught a two week course on Aromatherapy and

> > essential oils at the Ege University in Izmir, Turkey.

> >

> > 1995: In October, attended the world’s largest essential oils and

> > perfume congress in Istanbul, Turkey.

> >

> > Thanks..

> > --

> > Graham Sorenson