extract question

[Guest guest]

<< Getting back to the homemade extract, being made with Everclear will give

a

stronger punch, that's why I don't recommend it to the little one's. >>

 

Wondering if the " punch " is from the alcohol, or if being made with

Everclear the extract contains more herbal strength. If the writer of the

above would let me know, I'll appreciate it.

Anyway, anytime the alcohol is an issue, just put however much of an

extract you want to use presently in a stainless steel measuring spoon or a

small dish where it cannot spill, until the alcohol evaporates. You can

heat it gently if you want it right away. Then add a few drops of water to

the essence of the extract that is now dried on the bottom of the spoon or

dish, and go ahead and use it.

I do this both for myself and for my cats. They really do NOT like

alcohol! But most extracts with the alcohol removed, given in warm water

with a pipette, they do not mind.

I use warm water and a plastic pipette like the kind you use for EOs. The

warm water is important. They don't seem to react much to that, as they do

to cold water. I give them a " chaser " of straight water, then, in case

they didn't like the taste.

Shivani

[Guest guest]

> << Getting back to the homemade extract, being made with Everclear will

give

> a

> stronger punch, that's why I don't recommend it to the little one's. >>

 

I didnt write that, but I can say if you are making a fresh plant tincture-

everclear or another 95% alcohol is your best bet- It will pull all of the

water and tincturable constituents out of the plant matter.Vodka tinctures

for fresh plants are definitely inferior. If you are making a dry tincture-

you would need to add water to the herb to rehydrate, then add everclear- or

just add water/ alc. together.(or vodka)

I recommend evaporating the alcohol from tinctures before taking them- set

in warm water for a few minutes...not too hot...

 

Michelle

[Guest guest]

Hi Michelle,

 

I've never heard or read on trying to rehydrate herbs once dried. Where did you

get that info? I don't know of any herb that will rehydrate when dried.

 

Also alc won't extract *all* herbals properties. Different menstrumms extract

different constituents.

 

Here's a link for you to use/look at.

http://earthnotes.tripod.com/basics.htm#solvents

 

Janine

 

www.HerbaTherapy.com

Seabuckthorn seed oil on SALE!

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

(Being made with Everclear will give a stronger punch, that's why I don't

recommend it to the little one's.) And yes by putting it in a spoon with

water and letting it sit for a while works for the animal, but because the

dosage for the little ones is a little more tricky. If your extract is

factory made, generally the alcohol content is less and it's made with both

alcohol and water. Where a homemade extract made with Everclear

is 100% 190 proof alcohol. I have never given my animal a homemade extract,

but instead readily give them a strong tea over the coarse of the day for the

length of their sickness. Tea's are better for animals then extracts in my

opinion and safer.

[Guest guest]

Janine

Well, if you are going to extract from dry herb, you need some water! All of

Michael Moores formulas add water (or have a lower percentage of alcohol in

the menstruum) for dry herb.

I have studied with two of MMs grads...I have learned his methods for

extraction...

and, yes- you wouldnt want to extract, say,nettle with alcohol- much better

as a tea or a vinegar...

But 190 proof is the best for tincturing fresh herb- try a vodka St Johns

Wort and then try a 190 proof one- what a difference!

If tinctures are made *properly* they do pack more punch- of herb- so the

doses are lower...

 

Michelle

[Guest guest]

Dear Michelle,

 

Yes, Michael M's. recipes do ADD water, but don't 'necessarily start' out with

water added. Some do, some don't.

The point I am trying to make, is that 'properly' depends on the herb. There are

as many different ways to extract as there are, say, daisies. Moore seems to

have a definite way, that he publishes on line.

 

The water added in most of Moore's recipes is usually no more than 25%.

Many of us have studied under someone, whether or not they have as high a

profile as Moore doesn't make them any less knowledgeable.

 

I hear that North American tinctures are stronger than the British. I haven't

heard anything about the Germans that I can remember.

 

Janine Phariss

www.HerbaTherapy.com

Seabuckthorn seed oil on SALE!

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I've never added water to dried herbs to get the Everclear to work before.

This includes dried roots and dried whole plants. Dried leave give the same

dark green color as fresh leaves do, using everclear.

 

 

 

> Well, if you are going to extract from dry herb, you need some water! All of

> Michael Moores formulas add water (or have a lower percentage of alcohol in

> the menstruum) for dry herb.

> I have studied with two of MMs grads...I have learned his methods for

> extraction...

> and, yes- you wouldnt want to extract, say,nettle with alcohol- much better

> as a tea or a vinegar...

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

You need to rehydrate the plant- everclear work by pulling the water and

plant material out-

I dont mean much water- I do my dry tinctures with 75% alcohol(diluted 190

proof)

Check out Michael Moores site-

http://www.swsbm.com/HOMEPAGE/HomePage.html

 

> I've never added water to dried herbs to get the Everclear to work before.

> This includes dried roots and dried whole plants. Dried leave give the

same

> dark green color as fresh leaves do, using everclear.

 

Perhaps- but for leaves- fresh is so much better- or tea! But I know that

isnt always possible.