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Hey y'all,

 

Gotta agree with Erin. Depends on who we're dealing with.

 

> > No GOOD reason! They're chickens, every last one of them.

>

> Have to comment on this one...my husband is not a chicken when I'm in

> labor. He sits there and does everything I need done while all his

> friends have shied away from their wives/girlfriends while giving birth.

> Of course, we have home births so that is a big reason why he is able

> to--he is more free to be with me when I need him because there's no

> nurse or doctor wanting to get at me to do who-knows-what.

> Glad you joined the list, Dale! Now, go get me one of those NY bagels

> and load it up with all that good NY stuff (locks!) for me--I haven't

> had one in ages...man, these pregnancy cravings are getting out of

> control.

 

My first encounter with a live human birth was in the 'Nam in 1963. I

was too young to vote or buy beer in the USA then. ;-p A medic and I

were traveling past a lone grass shack when a frightened kid ran out

hollering " Mamasan have babysan. " The peasants were much like those

found in all the world .. they'd deliver their own baby and then go back

to the fields. But this one was difficult and the medic had some formal

training .. so I assisted him .. and all turned out well. Gotta say it

was an experience and a half fer'shur. But later, I was in the delivery

room when two of my four kids were born.

 

Through 30 years of military service, including multiple tours in 'Nam

and Somalia and a few other inpleasant areas, and service as a military

cop during peacetime, I got used to blood and gore .. all except my own.

I can stuff another person's guts back in and bandage it up .. can deal

with a sucking chest wound and such .. but when I was wounded or hurt I

got dizzy and eventually passed out. ;-p

 

Y'all keep smiling, Butch http://www.AV-AT.com

 

> Erin, full-time entertainer, teacher, doctor, maid, cook, chauffeur,

> kisser of boo-boos to my Beautiful Trio & The Sprout appearing Spring

> 2003.

>

> Have you seen Eden Essentials lately?

> http://www.edenessentials.com

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Erin! I knew there was a reason I like ya'! Homebirth...awesome. Wish I'd

known about them back when I was having mine. But at least I learned in time

about unmedicated, intervention free births in time for the last two. What a

difference.

 

Well, I attract like-minded folks. The fathers know up front that

unmedicated/unassisted/homebirths ain't for sissys!! On the other hand, the

fathers that take natural childbirth classes at the very least aren't afraid to

be there and witness the strength of their partners giving birth. Never seen a

man who didn't cry, laugh, smile, hurt (no jokes!) with her every step of the

way.

 

Now I've had couples come to class where the mom wants this and dad

doesn't......you can figure out after a couple of classes whether or not it's

going to be a mistake for them - ya gotta be on the same page.

 

But dads really need to be able to do something. Seems like that's their

biggest concern. What can they do?! So I'm teaching everything I and any other

doula would do.

 

Oh, so quick question: I need a quick fix of a base oil for massage. I can't

find any jojoba in the neighborhood at the moment. I don't want to use olive

oil 'cuz the smell can be too strong to try to overcome with oils plus it can

turn rancid can't it? Not that I would have the oil sitting around (Italian

household we go through it quick), but how do I know how long it's been sitting

on the store shelf before I bought it?

 

Dale

 

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Butch Owen

Monday, September 16, 2002 6:44 AM

 

Chickens

 

Hey y'all,

 

Gotta agree with Erin. Depends on who we're dealing with.

 

> > No GOOD reason! They're chickens, every last one of them.

>

> Have to comment on this one...my husband is not a chicken when I'm in

> labor. He sits there and does everything I need done while all his

> friends have shied away from their wives/girlfriends while giving birth.

> Of course, we have home births so that is a big reason why he is able

> to--he is more free to be with me when I need him because there's no

> nurse or doctor wanting to get at me to do who-knows-what.

> Glad you joined the list, Dale! Now, go get me one of those NY bagels

> and load it up with all that good NY stuff (locks!) for me--I haven't

> had one in ages...man, these pregnancy cravings are getting out of

> control.

 

My first encounter with a live human birth was in the 'Nam in 1963. I

was too young to vote or buy beer in the USA then. ;-p A medic and I

were traveling past a lone grass shack when a frightened kid ran out

hollering " Mamasan have babysan. " The peasants were much like those

found in all the world .. they'd deliver their own baby and then go back

to the fields. But this one was difficult and the medic had some formal

training .. so I assisted him .. and all turned out well. Gotta say it

was an experience and a half fer'shur. But later, I was in the delivery

room when two of my four kids were born.

 

Through 30 years of military service, including multiple tours in 'Nam

and Somalia and a few other inpleasant areas, and service as a military

cop during peacetime, I got used to blood and gore .. all except my own.

I can stuff another person's guts back in and bandage it up .. can deal

with a sucking chest wound and such .. but when I was wounded or hurt I

got dizzy and eventually passed out. ;-p

 

Y'all keep smiling, Butch http://www.AV-AT.com

 

> Erin, full-time entertainer, teacher, doctor, maid, cook, chauffeur,

> kisser of boo-boos to my Beautiful Trio & The Sprout appearing Spring

> 2003.

>

> Have you seen Eden Essentials lately?

> http://www.edenessentials.com

 

 

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