Bush and Saddam Should Both Stand Trial, Says Nuremberg Prosecutor

August 25, 2006

SAN FRANCISCO, Aug 25 (OneWorld) - A chief prosecutor of Nazi war crimes at

Nuremberg has said George W. Bush should be tried for war crimes along

*Saddam Hussein*<http://search.news./search/news/?p=Saddam+Hussein>.

Benjamin Ferenccz, who secured convictions for 22 Nazi officers for their

work in orchestrating the death squads that killed more than 1 million

people, told OneWorld both Bush and Saddam should be tried for starting

" aggressive " wars--Saddam for his 1990 attack on Kuwait and Bush for his

2003 invasion of

" Nuremberg declared that aggressive war is the supreme international crime, "

the 87-year-old Ferenccz told OneWorld from his home in New York. He said

the

*United

Nations*<http://search.news./search/news/?p=United+Nations>charter,

which was written after the carnage of World War II, contains a

provision that no nation can use armed force without the permission of the

UN Security Council.

Ferenccz said that after Nuremberg the international community realized that

every war results in violations by both sides, meaning the primary objective

should be preventing any war from occurring in the first place.

He said the atrocities of the Iraq war--from the

*Abu Ghraib* <http://search.news./search/news/?p=Abu+Ghraib>prison

scandal and the massacre of dozens of civilians by

U.S. forces in Haditha to the high number of civilian casualties caused by

insurgent car bombs--were highly predictable at the start of the war.

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Which

wars should be prosecuted? " Every war will lead to attacks on civilians, " he

said. " Crimes against humanity, destruction beyond the needs of military

necessity, rape of civilians, plunder--that always happens in wartime. So my

answer personally, after working for 60 years on this problem and [as

someone] who hates to see all these young people get killed no matter what

their nationality, is that you've got to stop using warfare as a means of

settling your disputes. "

Ferenccz believes the most important development toward that end would be

the effective implementation of the International Criminal Court (ICC),

which is located in the Hague, Netherlands.

The court was established in 2002 and has been ratified by more than 100

countries. It is currently being used to adjudicate cases stemming from

conflict in Darfur, Sudan and civil wars in Uganda and the Democratic

Republic of the Congo.

But on May 6, 2002--less than a year before the invasion of Iraq--the Bush

administration withdrew the United States' signature on the treaty and began

pressuring other countries to approve bilateral agreements requiring them

not to surrender U.S. nationals to the ICC.

Three months later, George W. Bush signed a new law prohibiting any U.S.

cooperation with the International Criminal Court. The law went so far as to

include a provision authorizing the president to " use all means necessary

and appropriate, " including a military invasion of the Netherlands, to free

U.S. personnel detained or imprisoned by the ICC.

That's too bad, according to Ferenccz. If the United States showed more of

an interest in building an international justice system, they could have put

Saddam Hussein on trial for his 1990 invasion of Kuwait.

" The United Nations authorized the first

*Gulf War* <http://search.news./search/news/?p=Gulf+War> and

authorized all nations to take whatever steps necessary to keep peace in the

area, " he said. " They could have stretched that a bit by seizing the person

for causing the harm. Of course, they didn't do that and ever since then

I've been bemoaning the fact that we didn't have an International Criminal

Court at that time. "

Ferenccz is glad that Saddam Hussein is now on trial.

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This

week, the Iraqi government began to try the former dictator for crimes

connected to his ethnic cleansing campaign against the Kurds. According to

Human Rights Watch, which has done extensive on-the-ground documentation,

Saddam's Ba'athist regime deliberately and systematically killed at least

50,000 and possibly as many as 100,000 Kurds over a six-month period in

1988.

Kurdish authorities put the number even higher, saying 182,000 Kurdish

civilians were killed in a matter of months.

Everyone agrees innumerable villages were bombed and some were gassed. The

surviving residents were rounded up, taken to detention centers, and

eventually executed at remote sites, sometimes by being stripped and shot in

the back so they would fall naked into trenches.

In his defense, Saddam Hussein has disputed the extent of the killings and

maintained they were justified because he was fighting a counter-insurgency

operation against Kurdish separatists allied with

*Iran* <http://search.news./search/news/?p=Iran>. When asked to

enter a plea, the former president said " that would require volumes of

books. "

Ferenccz said whatever Saddam's reasons, nothing can justify the mass

killing of innocents.

" The offenses attributable to ex-President Hussein since he came to power

range from the supreme international crime of aggression to a wide variety

of crimes against humanity, " he wrote after Saddam was ousted in 2003. " A

fair trial will achieve many goals. The victims would find some satisfaction

in knowing that their victimizer was called to account and could no longer

be immune from punishment for his evil deeds. Wounds can begin to heal. The

historical facts can be confirmed beyond doubt. Similar crimes by other

dictators might be discouraged or deterred in future. The process of justice

through law, on which the safety of humankind depends, would be reinforced. "

August 26, 2006

[NOLA_C3_Discussion] Bush and Saddam Should Both Stand Trial,

Says Nuremberg Prosecutor

Bush and Saddam Should Both Stand Trial, Says Nuremberg Prosecutor

By Aaron Glantz,

08/25/06 " OneWorld " --- A chief prosecutor of Nazi war crimes at Nuremberg

has said George W. Bush should be tried for war crimes along with Saddam

Hussein. Benjamin Ferenccz, who secured convictions for 22 Nazi officers for

their work in orchestrating the death squads that killed more than 1 million

people, told OneWorld both Bush and Saddam should be tried for starting

" aggressive " wars--Saddam for his 1990 attack on Kuwait and Bush for his

2003 invasion of Iraq.

" Nuremberg declared that aggressive war is the supreme international crime, "

the 87-year-old Ferenccz told OneWorld from his home in New York. He said

the United Nations charter, which was written after the carnage of World War

II, contains a provision that no nation can use armed force without the

permission of the UN Security Council.

Ferenccz said that after Nuremberg the international community realized that

every war results in violations by both sides, meaning the primary objective

should be preventing any war from occurring in the first place.

He said the atrocities of the Iraq war--from the Abu Ghraib prison scandal

and the massacre of dozens of civilians by U.S. forces in Haditha to the

high number of civilian casualties caused by insurgent car bombs--were

highly predictable at the start of the war.

Which wars should be prosecuted? " Every war will lead to attacks on

civilians, " he said. " Crimes against humanity, destruction beyond the needs

of military necessity, rape of civilians, plunder--that always happens in

wartime. So my answer personally, after working for 60 years on this problem

and [as someone] who hates to see all these young people get killed no

matter what their nationality, is that you've got to stop using warfare as a

means of settling your disputes. "

Ferenccz believes the most important development toward that end would be

the effective implementation of the International Criminal Court (ICC),

which is located in the Hague, Netherlands.

The court was established in 2002 and has been ratified by more than 100

countries. It is currently being used to adjudicate cases stemming from

conflict in Darfur, Sudan and civil wars in Uganda and the Democratic

Republic of the Congo.

But on May 6, 2002--less than a year before the invasion of Iraq--the Bush

administration withdrew the United States' signature on the treaty and began

pressuring other countries to approve bilateral agreements requiring them

not to surrender U.S. nationals to the ICC.

Three months later, George W. Bush signed a new law prohibiting any U.S.

cooperation with the International Criminal Court. The law went so far as to

include a provision authorizing the president to " use all means necessary

and appropriate, " including a military invasion of the Netherlands, to free

U.S. personnel detained or imprisoned by the ICC.

That's too bad, according to Ferenccz. If the United States showed more of

an interest in building an international justice system, they could have put

Saddam Hussein on trial for his 1990 invasion of Kuwait.

" The United Nations authorized the first Gulf War and authorized all nations

to take whatever steps necessary to keep peace in the area, " he said. " They

could have stretched that a bit by seizing the person for causing the harm.

Of course, they didn't do that and ever since then I've been bemoaning the

fact that we didn't have an International Criminal Court at that time. "

Ferenccz is glad that Saddam Hussein is now on trial.

government began to try the former dictator for crimes connected to his

ethnic cleansing campaign against the Kurds. According to Human Rights

Watch, which has done extensive on-the-ground documentation, Saddam's

Ba'athist regime deliberately and systematically killed at least 50,000 and

possibly as many as 100,000 Kurds over a six-month period in 1988.

Kurdish authorities put the number even higher, saying 182,000 Kurdish

civilians were killed in a matter of months.

Everyone agrees innumerable villages were bombed and some were gassed. The

surviving residents were rounded up, taken to detention centers, and

eventually executed at remote sites, sometimes by being stripped and shot in

the back so they would fall naked into trenches.

In his defense, Saddam Hussein has disputed the extent of the killings and

maintained they were justified because he was fighting a counter-insurgency

operation against Kurdish separatists allied with Iran. When asked to enter

a plea, the former president said " that would require volumes of books. "