Guest guest Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Speaking of calcium and magnesium....was listening to a nutritional tape the other day, and it said that the US is the only country in the world who does twice the amount of calcium as magnesium in its supplements. In Europe, for example, they do 2 or 3 times the amount of magnesium as calcium and have virtually no osteoporosis there. Haven't checked the numbers myself, but thought that was interesting. Jeanne >Message: 9 > Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:30:56 +0000 > jeanne_simons >magnesium for migraines > > >I stopped drinking caffeine and eating a lot of dairy. Calcium loading, >diet sodas, caffeine, and certain meds will decrease magnesium in the >body. I now take 200 mg of magnesium citrate (am and pm) and haven't had >one for a long time. If I am unusually stresed, eating poorly, or if >there is an extreme change in the weather I will take an additional 200 mg >around 4pm (low time for magnesium) or when it hits me. Helps with my >asthma as well because it is a natural broncho-dialator. > >The biggest issue is change is diet. The same things that you should >avoid for migraines are the same for an anti-candida diet. They all seem >to go hand in hand. > >Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Yes I read that too and that is why they reccommend taking it on a 1:1 basis. I do know when I go off and have a dairy binge I need to take more magnesium because I get panicky if my magnesium levels are low. Calcium loading depletes your magnesium levels. Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Hi Jeanne, My I be so Bold as to provide you a correct understanding of your problem when you have a , so called dairy binge. If your dairy binge includes ice-cream and sweets, then most of your problems are because of the excess acids which are produced in your body because of the refined sugars, not from calcium loading. Magnesium cuts acids(neutralizes them), this is where your benifit is coming from under this condition. If your binge is just from drinking a lot of milk, and additional magnesium helps you, it is again not from calcium loading, but because milk is very high in Protein and you are getting to much Protein in ratio to the carbohydrate intake, and too much Protein will KILL the friendly bacteria in the digestion system. The reason the extra magnesium is helping you in this case is because magnesium enables the body to get rid of the excess Proteins the body takes in , so the body may stay Healthy. Again, not from Calcium Loading, as this is False info!! Smile Tis your choice! herbal remedies , jeanne_simons@c... wrote: > > Yes I read that too and that is why they reccommend taking it on a 1:1 basis. > > I do know when I go off and have a dairy binge I need to take more magnesium because I get panicky if my magnesium levels are low. Calcium loading depletes your magnesium levels. > Jeanne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Well that is interesting. I usually binge on cheese. So basically you are saying if I am eating excess protein that the magnesium helps to flush that out and so hence my magnesium levels are reduced and I need to take more? Or what? Please tell me more. What else do you know about magnesium and how it is depleted. Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2006 Report Share Posted January 24, 2006 Hi Jeanne, You are correct now in your understanding about magnesium helps the body get rid of the excess Proteins from the body which the body was unable to digest properly. What most do not understand is that too much Protein in the body will Kill the friendly bacteria in the stomach and make one very sick. Taking a good Probotics will help correct the destruction of friendly bacteria in the stomach, by replacing it back into the stomach!! And this is one of the first things needed to help one recover from any sickness!! There is a balance that must exist between the amount of Protein one eats and the amount of Carbohydrates one eats, and if too much Protein is eaten(which is generally the case) and not enough complexed carbohydrates, then one becomes very sick, or just stays sick all the time and does not know any different. To try to explain why this is, and what takes place may be difficult in a short comment, but I will try. Protein is an amino-acid complex, or at any rate true protein should be. Protein is also nitrogen in it's elemental form. And nitrogen is and or acts like the Electricity in and for the body. Protein also is like the fire is to a burning wood log, it burns up Carbon. So as long as the body has plenty of Carbon(complexed- carbohydrates)in it's diet, to allow the Protein to be ALL used up, then the body functions ok. But when a person eats too much Protein and does not have enough Carbon(complexed-carbohydrates) in their diet, then the person themselves start to burn up and decay themselves!! This is a simple version of what takes place. Enough Magnesium intake is required to aide in this balance between the Protein and Carbons, as the Magnesium helps get rid of the excess Protein which the person has eaten too much of. So if one does not eat enough Green leafy vegetables in their diet, they are always short of magnesium. For it is the chlorphyll in the green leafy vegetables which contains the Magnesium which the body needs to protect it's self from too much Protein intake! Smile Tis your choice now! herbal remedies , jeanne_simons@c... wrote: > > Well that is interesting. I usually binge on cheese. So basically you are saying if I am eating excess protein that the magnesium helps to flush that out and so hence my magnesium levels are reduced and I need to take more? > > Or what? Please tell me more. What else do you know about magnesium and how it is depleted. > Jeanne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Well that is interesting. So how much protein should one eat? If I am 5'8 female? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Hi jeanne, You have to be your own judge, but I will try to share some guidelines with which you may determine the amount you may eat and be ok. If you are having anykind of back pains , especially in the lower back area, then more than likely you are eating too much protein in relationship for your magnesium intake. If your urine is yellow color and or foams when you pee, then you are eating too much protein and or not drinking enough water and getting enough magnesium. If you are eating any protein of an evening within 4-6 hours before bedtime, then you are getting too much protein! Protein should be eaten in the middle of your day so as to allow your body to digest it before you go to bed, or the undigested protein forms uric acid and will cause you to not be able to sleep restfully and to have aches and pains. If you are having digestion problems in your stomach of any kind , it may have started because you ate too much protein and this will Kill off the friendly bacteria in your stomach and you will feel bloated and nauseated, until you reintroduce the necessary Proboitics back into your digestive system to get your digestion working properly again! So what to do? Eat a good breakfast with natural complexed carbohydrates and natural sugars. For midday meal eat your proteins and vegetables, for your Biggest meal for the day. Of an evening only eat a vegetable salad and or some fruit and or some lite soup, like onion soup with celery and carrots and lite vegetables without white potatoes, and or Cabbage, broccoli, brussel sprouts and the like. Smile Tis your choice. herbal remedies , jeanne_simons@c... wrote: > > Well that is interesting. So how much protein should one eat? If I am 5'8 female? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 In the course of the Magnesium piece, there was a " See treatment recommendations " section mentioned, but no click is available. Do you have access to the section referred to? thank you john p. - surpriseshan2 mcs-canada Wednesday, December 20, 2006 10:01 AM Magnesium Magnesium http://www.magnesiumforlife.com/magnesium.shtml Magnesium is the fourth most abundant mineral in the body and is essential to good health. Magnesium, atomic number twelve, is an element essential for normal function of the nervous and cardiovascular systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Thank for posting this article - I found it highly informative. Magnesium is so key for so many functions in the body - not the least of which is detoxification. Addtionally, the site mentions on another page (http://www.magnesiumforlife.com/), it's key for the functioning of the ATP-ase enzyme responsible for the Sodium/Potassium pump of our bodies' cells. It ensures the proper balance of Potassium inside the cell and Sodium outside the cell (much like the Calcium outside the cell, as mentioned in the article). When this gradient is chronically reversed due to Magnesium deficiency then cellular function throughout the body is compromised. This article helped me understand one of the reasons why Epsom Salt (Magnesium sulfate) baths are meant to be so good for detoxification: If Magnesium can be so well-absorbed through the skin in foot soaks, then presumably Epsom Salt baths produce the same increase of intracellular Magnesium. Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Hello Sharon. I am actually surprised that you would say that about Epson Salts. At the MagnesiumForLife website, there is a very good article about Epson Salts. You will find that putting magnesium chloride into baths is very good for detoxing as well as getting magnesium levels up. And these baths are so very relaxing at the end of the day - I can actually feel my aches and pains disappearing and my body relaxing. Magnesium Chloride Vs Magnesium Sulfate _http://www.magnesiumforlife.com/chloride_sulfate.shtml_'>http://www.magnesiumforlife.com/chloride_sulfate.shtml_ (http://www.magnesiumforlife.com/chloride_sulfate.shtml) With Epson salts you are getting more sulphur then magnesium. blessings, Shan _Re: Magnesium _ (/message/53491;_ylc=X3o\ DMTJyZHFiNjhwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzQxOTgyNTEEZ3Jwc3BJZA MxNzA1MDYwODE0BG1zZ0lkAzUzNDkxBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzEyMTQ4OTc0Mzk- ) Posted by: " sharonstrahan " _sharonstrahan _ (sharonstrahan?Subject= Re:%20Magnesium) _sharonstrahan _ (http://profiles./sharonstrahan) Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:29 pm (PDT) Thank for posting this article - I found it highly informative. Magnesium is so key for so many functions in the body - not the least of which is detoxification. Addtionally, the site mentions on another page (_http://www.magnesiu mforlife. com/_ (http://www.magnesiumforlife.com/) ), it's key for the functioning of the ATP-ase enzyme responsible for the Sodium/Potassium pump of our bodies' cells. It ensures the proper balance of Potassium inside the cell and Sodium outside the cell (much like the Calcium outside the cell, as mentioned in the article). When this gradient is chronically reversed due to Magnesium deficiency then cellular function throughout the body is compromised. This article helped me understand one of the reasons why Epsom Salt (Magnesium sulfate) baths are meant to be so good for detoxification: If Magnesium can be so well-absorbed through the skin in foot soaks, then presumably Epsom Salt baths produce the same increase of intracellular Magnesium. Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 It's only that I've heard that many naturopaths recommend bathing in Epsom Salts for detoxing and never really understood why... and perhaps that was the only choice readily available to people... Where do you get magnesium choloride? Is that easily findable? Thanks Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 excellent article by the way - I shall have to explore this site some more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Another website with lots of good info about magnesium is www.mgwater.com They even have 2 books that you can download free about magnesium plus a couple hundred articles. You can look up articles about dozens of illnesses/disorders/conditions according to that particular illness etc too. But Dr Mark Sircus put up the MagnesiumForLife website - and it is not just about magnesium but is also about transdermal magnesium versus IV and injections and oral magnesium. Both those websites I find very helpful. best wishes Shan , " sharonstrahan " <sharonstrahan wrote: > > excellent article by the way - I shall have to explore this site some > more... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 I can answer that question - I have been using transdermal magnesium chloride for a few years . I use it everyday for peripheral neuropathy in my feet, plus for pain, etc. It also detoxes you, too. But you get more magnesium then epson salts - though you are correct, Epson salts are better the nothing and unless you are informed are easier to find. You have the website url for MagnesiumForLife? - www.magnesiumforlife.com/ The titles across the top of the webpages are dropdown menues - you will find product info there. Magnesium Oil The Ancient Minerals and Ocean Minerals magnesium recommended by Dr. Mark Sircus, Ac., OMD, Director of the IMVA are available from the following sources in the USA, Europe and Canada. http://www.magnesiumforlife.com/oil.shtml Ir is called an 'oil' because it feels like an oil; but had no oil in it, it is the high concentration of magnesium chloride that makes it feel like that. There is only sea water and magnesium chloride in it. Magnesium Chloride Product Analysis http://www.imva.info/essay_product_analysis.shtml Magnesium Chloride Product Analysis http://www.magnesiumforlife.com/product_analysis.shtml You can also use the trandermal magnesium chloride sold by Global Light Network http://www.globallight.net/Magnesium_30.html though the quality is not as good as the stuff suggested on the MagnesiurForLife website. Execept if you get it from Global Light, don't use it internnally and be careful if you put it in your face as it can sometimes sting on the face and neck, depends on the person. But it has beent tested extensively for all metals and is safe to use. And tell Dave, the CEO, that you got the url for it from me - I have got know him over the years but I do not have any financial or other connection to this company and their product - I just buy a couple of things there. Good luck Sharon! blessings Shan , " sharonstrahan " <sharonstrahan wrote: > > It's only that I've heard that many naturopaths recommend bathing in > Epsom Salts for detoxing and never really understood why... and > perhaps that was the only choice readily available to people... > > Where do you get magnesium choloride? Is that easily findable? > > > Thanks > Sharon > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Alobar, where do you buy your nigari, pls? I am low in mag. Thanks. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 A Dexascan will determine risk for osteoporosis. It is similar to an x-ray and not very expensive. I have a genetic condition which usually includes osteoporosis. I had a Dexascan and was found to be in great shape. I have never taken calcium. Hugh--- On Mon, 3/23/09, kerley983 <kerley983 wrote: kerley983 <kerley983 Magnesium Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 10:11 PM My Dr.told me to take 1200 to 1500 mg of calcium I just thank the Lord that I did not do it. I think I took about 800 mg of calcium maybe 600 I cannot remember, but I do remember the charley horses I got in my legs. The first thing I thought of was, well here goes a heart attack. I got 500 mg of magnesium right away as soon as I saw it was not going to quit. The Dr. does not know this, one thing also the reading of my calcium was 9.8 and the high number on the chart was 10.3 that looks like to me enough calcium. Another thing he mentioned was Osteoporosis. I do not think I am in danger of this. He also told me to take vite D 2,000 units of it. I have things wrong but not this. Does anyone know anything about Reservatol?? ? he did also say my cholesterol was a bit high and he could give me meds for that. He allready knows I do not take those things so maybe it was a joke. An other thing I have not read anywhere the amount of Mag. to take. I do also have liquid so I will get enough. I have also heard the only right kind is the one with ate at the end of the word. sharon Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 The 9.8 calcium level you mention is blood calcium which gives absolutely no indication of bone mineral content. A dexa-scan is a fair test to do but measures only "density" and not bone flexibility or strength. (A piece of glass may be denser than a piece of steel but it is not stronger) The amount of magnesium you need daily is about 200 mg twice daily and can be in many forms, most ending in 'ate". (lysinate, ascorbate, glycinate, aspartate, orotate, etc) However, citrates and gluconates are not as good as others. Oxides dissociate rapidly and enter the gut quickly where they pool water and cause loose stools. Great relief for constipation but not well absorbed into tissue. --- On Tue, 3/24/09, Hugh Ramsdell <hughman73 wrote: Hugh Ramsdell <hughman73Re: Magnesium Date: Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 2:33 AM A Dexascan will determine risk for osteoporosis. It is similar to an x-ray and not very expensive. I have a genetic condition which usually includes osteoporosis. I had a Dexascan and was found to be in great shape. I have never taken calcium. Hugh--- On Mon, 3/23/09, kerley983 <kerley983 wrote: kerley983 <kerley983 Magnesium Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 10:11 PM My Dr.told me to take 1200 to 1500 mg of calcium I just thank the Lord that I did not do it. I think I took about 800 mg of calcium maybe 600 I cannot remember, but I do remember the charley horses I got in my legs. The first thing I thought of was, well here goes a heart attack. I got 500 mg of magnesium right away as soon as I saw it was not going to quit. The Dr. does not know this, one thing also the reading of my calcium was 9.8 and the high number on the chart was 10.3 that looks like to me enough calcium. Another thing he mentioned was Osteoporosis. I do not think I am in danger of this. He also told me to take vite D 2,000 units of it. I have things wrong but not this. Does anyone know anything about Reservatol?? ? he did also say my cholesterol was a bit high and he could give me meds for that. He allready knows I do not take those things so maybe it was a joke. An other thing I have not read anywhere the amount of Mag. to take. I do also have liquid so I will get enough. I have also heard the only right kind is the one with ate at the end of the word. sharon Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 'Magnesium is one of the four most important minerals your body requires for cellular health. Magnesium soothes the sympathetic nervous system and is essential for the production of amino acids that are critical for virtually every chemical reaction in your body. There is a documented epidemic of magnesium deficiency in America, and yet, the medical industry is tryiing to deal with it using druges instead of effective supplements. Why supplement? Because the food that is grown on our depleted soils no longer contains enough magnesium to sustain you in a healthy state. " This is taken from the site of the magnesium gel that I use..in my bath, mixed with my shampoo and applied locally for small aches and pains. I am a believer in Magnesium and will continue to use it. Transdermal Magnesium is the best way to get this supplement. The ratio of calcium to magnesium should perhaps be magnesium/calcium. If anyone is interested in more information, just write to me. Anne TX USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 I agree withyou completely. In; the 80's when I started in Alternative Health, the ratio was universally considered to be 2/1 Ca/Mg. I have been taking 1/1 for many years, and recommending it as well. Magnesium is used on over 6000 enzyme reactions, and most bone problems are NOT from a lack of calcium, but much more often from a lack of magnesium needed to change the blood calcium into bone and tooth calcium. With a lack of magnesium, this valuable process winds up depositing calcium into joints (arthritis and stenosis), and in tissues (breast and lungs particularly, called sarcoidosis. Of course, there are a lot of other minerals and vitamins that are necessary to make the enzymes necessary for these chemical steps, but magnesium is the most necessary.. -- Phil Bate PhD http://drbate.com - Free Alternate Health Advice Neuroliminal Training (NT) solves allergy stress causing mental problems ADD to Autism, Insomnia to depression & more Without dangerous/addictive drugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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