Budwig question

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Hello.

 

I posted recently about my mom and liver/pancreas cancer. We just found out last

Tuesday, the 2nd, that she had liver cancer. Final test results came back on

Monday, the 8th, as mets from Pancreas. I started giving her some FO/CC on the

11th. 12th, 13th and yesterday. She's in the hospital. I now think the FO was

rancid.

 

My mom started having wheezing on the 11th. possibly before. They were set to

discharge her to hospice, on the 11th but were waiting for therapeutic INR

levels. Over the past few days she has been wheezing, is tired and looks worse

so now they are saying 2 weeks left. Before on the 11th they were thinking

3-6months.

 

Could I have sped up the cancer because I gave her rancid FO? And not have her

strictly follow the diet. A little sugar here and some meat here. I was going to

slowly ween her off that stuff and when she got home, try to go full tilt.

 

I feel terrible. I haven't even had the chance to get the Oleander and use it

(the blood clots/Comoudin situation was the big concern).

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Bless your heart Jeff.Do not blame yourself, for anything, you have done nothing wrong. You have done everything you possibly can with all the love in your heart. From what you tell me, chances that the FO was rancid are slim to none.You didn't speed up the cancer at all Jeff, these events are merely coincidence. When doctors say three to six months, they mean "up to three to six months." At this point, not following a strict diet since your joining the forum had nothing to do with it. Please know that from where I sit, you are the best son ever and you did everything you possibly could.I want you to know that we are here for you to help emotionally during this time.One last note......... During times like these, we tend to blame ourselves for circumstances. "If I had only done this....... If I had only done that........" In a way, it's normal. You know, years later, sometimes I still blame myself for things that I could have done to prolong her life. But the thing is, I did the very best I could with the tools that I had.And the thing is........... You are doing the very best you can with the tools that you have. Please do not hold on to misplaced guilt.You have done nothing wrong, and have done nothing to speed up the cancer. Jeff, please accept this virtual hug.........

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Just a note...... When I wrote the following sentence in the post to Jeff, I was referring to my own mom. Just for clarification.........You know, years later, sometimes I still blame myself for things that I could have done to prolong her life.

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Thank you for the virtual hug and response. I needed that. Your support has been helpful.I'm still searching on EarthClinic for maybe something that can stop this fast and then try the other protocols like Budwig/Oleander. I know it may be too late. And I'm trying to to be open to what may eventually come. I feel it's so unfair. I never even got a chance to try and fight it and I'm sure there are some people who have passed thru this group that have encountered this as well.

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Jeff,I know..... I wish I had all the answers. Will your mom be at hospice at home? And, of course, I say.... never give up.Please know that we are all here for you.My Best,

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-It is undetermined at this time. A pallative consult has been called in. So, she might be able to go to the pallative unit in the hospital or a hospice facility or maybe home. But they are saying she's not well enough to go home. So, I think we're stuck. And she won't be home.-Jeff

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Jeff,Please keep me posted. Please know that my prayers are very much with you.

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My mother has had swelling before from her renal problems When I posted my first entry, they had given my mom 2 weeks and then changed it and now

she's wheezing again, so it might be back to 2 weeks. Can FO/CC cause

wheezing or is that the cancer? She also has swelling in the legs, can FO/CC or cancer be the cause and possibly the predisone/chemo she took for the renal problems (but she's not on those meds now)?

 

I would try cleansing her liver but she's in the hospital, so coffee enemas are out. Any other suggestions?

 

If I stop the FO/CC after one week, will that speed up the cancer

process? I can't control the hospital food and my mom is starting to

not like taking the FO/CC. She says she's only taking it because I'm

telling her it might work. Otherwise she doesn't want it. She wants

roast beef, hot dogs, salad dressing, ginger ale, etc. She's hungry at times, so that's still a good sign but I just don't know.I want to try the IP6, but I mentioned the 8 capsules she'd have to take and she plain out said no. She takes many pills now and just can't take anymore. I might try the IP6 powder and see if that works. That should be just as good, no?Last question: Any suggestions on how to approach the Dr's on the Oleander and monitoring her PT-INR levels and whatever else is needed for blood clots. I just feel, that I'm going to get a negative response, ie. I wouldn't suggest you give that to her, it didn't make Clinical Trials 2, etc? I definitely need a DR on board to monitor my mom because of her A-Fib situation. If time permits, I still would want to try this but I'm 100% sure that my mom will only do what a DR says. I mentioned the blood clot possibility and she was like, no - that's all I need now.On top of all

this, I can't really have a heart to heart because she doesn't want to speak about it. Cancer has not been mentioned since the DR told her. I only say tumor. Her depression history stops me from trying to be blunt.Thanks in advance.

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Hi Jeff,FO/CC and/or Oleander would not cause wheezing or edema (swelling in her legs). This is very often the result of chemo. I would ask the doctor if your mother has congestive heart failure. This is what it sounds like to me. By chance, is your mother spitting up frothy saliva? If she is, this is a definite sign of congestive heart failure. Even though she is not taking chemo now, congestive heart failure is very often the result of chemo.The fact that she is hungry at times I would say is a good sign. I know that you are hesitant to be forthright with her because of her depression, but frankly, at this point I would pull out the big guns and have that heart-to-heart with her. I would approach it from the standpoint of how much I loved

her and how much I desired for her to get well. I would stress the importance of continuing FO/CC, if anything, I would say..... Mom, please just do it for me. I would also stress the importance of eating healthy foods. Bringing her healthy smoothies may satisfy that sweet tooth. Not smoothies you buy from a store, making them yourself. Here are some recipes:http://www.smoothieweb.com/category/healthy-smoothies/Yet, because of the sugar content in fruits, I would not give her a lot of them. Also, for the recipes that call for sweeteners, only use Stevia or LoHan. And stay away from soy. For the recipes that call for milk, I would only use goat's milk.I know.... Being in the hospital doesn't help and relying totally on her doctors is another obstacle. Yet, is she aware that the doctors really

cannot do anything else for her? This might motivate her. And I know, you have the depression to deal with so you would have to approach this from a psychological aspect. Jeff, I really know what you have to contend with and I feel your frustration. I am just trying to come up with the best answers. I would use the same approach in convincing her to take Inositol/IP6. Although, the powder may very well be the answer. Yes, it would be just as good.Now...... Oleander. I am not sure I understand your concern. If anything, Oleander thins the blood, it does not cause blood clots. However, due to the filtering, the amount of cardiac glycosides is minimal. Your doctors may not agree with taking Oleander, or any other supplements. The reactions that I have personally received when talking to doctors about alternative methods for myself have varied from laughter to anger,

sometimes informing me that these supplements are dangerous. This statement is a falsehood, as it is their drugs that are actually dangerous, but I won't go further into that right now. Still, there are doctors out there with an open mind. Another factor is that mainstream doctors are not allowed to use alternative methods. They will literally lose their license. So chances that the doctor would monitor her might be slim to none. I would still ask if it would be possible, mentioning that the trials done at M. D. Anderson in Houston by Dr. Robert Newman. The studies in the following link may help influence the doctor:/Oleander_Case_Reports_Studies.htmYou never know, there are doctors out there that will work with you. It doesn't hurt to try. Just be aware of the reactions that you may

receive.Another alternative would be to look for a holistic practitioner in your area that would help to monitor her. How long is she expected to be in the hospital, or is she in a hospice facility?I realize what you face and my heart goes out to you. And I realize that you have to handle her carefully and with psychology. Is she aware that the doctors have only given her a limited time to live? Are you giving her any of the other supplements in A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol?These are the best suggestions I have. Yet, Jeff, all I can say to you if your mom will not cooperate is to do the best that you can. Please know that my prayers are with you.My very best to you,