Guest guest Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Hi Maria at al Well, quite an amazing rediscovery. http://health.Beck-blood-electrification/message/11020 This is a repost from the above group I have posted there Feb 8. 2010. Not that is is from my head, just doing my homework. ---------- Hi Dick, You have just managed to give me a pile of thinking and eventually typing. I will keep this post as short as I dare to, to just bring a few points home. I hope the moderator is not gona get too mad with me, as we are sure off B. Beck topic, although B. Beck has some involvement in this by correlation as well, only that I do not see that one quite clearly. But his process does cause electric potentiation in all blood borne chemicals and is part of this can of worms as well. There are a few facts I have to state from the works of assorted researchers, which I do not expect most of you to be familiar with. Peter Staheli, as referred, makes the same mistake which 99.9999% of all other researchers make. He tries to pin the causation onto a single phenomenon, which is horribly wrong in most cases and horribly shortsighted. Never the less, he makes a clear point on the part he has researched and there is nothing wrong with that, as far as I can see. His research [at al] boils down to a single fact. " A grounded person shall not accumulate the positive charge, as opposed to an ungrounded person. " What follows from such buildup are changes in the electric balances and imbalances of electric exchange among the cells and chemicals and among the chemicals themselves in the living tissues and therefore all living creatures. Their chemical reactance will change. Robert Becker, displaying the same shortsightedness blaming strictly EM radiation and induction from power lines within living tissues. Yet he has also produced good evidence for his part of this electro influence conglomerate. It can be fairly safely speculated, that if AC in power lines produces positive ionization in the surrounding air, the AC produced in living tissues by induction through EM radiation will again build up and accumulate the positive charge, unless grounded [plus the AC currents, whatever their effect may be]. Here we are back to the fact that: " A grounded person shall not accumulate the positive charge, as opposed to an ungrounded person. " Here comes the Ace of them all, for his original and so far criminally suppressed and neglected research, one Wilhelm Reich. Of all his research I am familiar with, the fact most relevant to this line of inquiry, is the observation made by all who have ever personally operated cloud busters, before the problem became widely known within the small fraternity and now avoided. Poorly grounded cloud buster operators would suffer symptoms usually starting with a headache, then fatigue, then nausea and could end up in a loss of consciousness. They pretty much suffered from severe sun stroke symptoms within very short period of time. This is not necessarily positive static only, if at all. Reich coined the term orgone for the phenomenon, which appears has somewhat different characteristics from static, but I have to check a few others, like Franklin, to hopefully get it somewhat nailed down. This is a scope for a book, never mind a post. But you Dick sure have triggered correlations I have not so far seen. Thank you. The only thing I can say is: " People, ground yourself as much as possible. " The reason is as I mentioned above, once you build up what may be called a positive charge field, aura?, it is of course uneven through out and around the body depending on the kind of tissues, being a manifestation of unnatural potentials within the body. These altered electric [and orgone] potential relationships wreak havoc upon the electro processes in the body. The first body system to deal with this problem is the nervous system. It attempts to supply, route, reroute and compensate. The nervous system is pretty much your electric (and orgone) system [intelligent wiring]. Here come the headaches to start with, the fatigue which follows, the nausea telling you that you are as good as poisoned, and possibly the fainting when the nerves can't cope no more due to the lack of capacity and shut down the non essentials. This is the acute sun stroke, mostly an orgone [cloud busting and sun stroke] problem. The electric problem appears to be usually sub clinical, but chronic. The second come organs which take care of detox of the body along with enzymes, glands, hormones etc. Enzymes and hormones are catalysts which operate with electric potentials of less than one electron volt. They compliment electric fields of chemicals and receptors causing [and preventing] reactions, which would otherwise never happen, or happen on insufficient scale, or happen on two grand a scale. The function of kidneys, liver, pancreas, glands will be of course negatively affected. Even if the over all positive charge (and the wrong frequencies orgone field when mild) may appear irrelevant when they do not manifest themselves with acute symptoms, the sub clinical state of pretty much a sunstroke will have an erosive effect on the body functions on its cellular and intracellular level in a long run. This erosion may be more critical than any initial chemical contamination. Body might have a chance to deal with poisonous pollutants, be it natural or man made, if its electric and orgone processes were intact as natural. Once this condition is breached, even the most natural and wholesome foods may become poisonous, even fatally [allergens]. No chemicals, proteins, hormones, receptors etc. in your body will chemically and solubly react as intended with what you digest. [And here we go to J. Budwig and most of all W.F.Koch and back to Beck and Godzila etc., while we skipped Joe Hiding, Lee Crock and who knows how many others.] With kind regards, Slavek. ---------- As a final note, there are fabrics impregnated with different metals by vacuum evaporation methods which are suitable for sawing anything from bed sheets to pajamas. I would not recommend direct body contact though. An under sheet for a bed, covered with a cotton sheet, would be ideal on the other hand for grounding oneself during nights. The only source I have ever doug up which has a large assortment of such fabrics at bearable prices is here. http://www.lessemf.com/fabric.html Maria wrote: > > > > Hi group, i think this is a must watch video , go on the site and > stroll down all the way to the botom of the page. There on the left > hand side shows a shoe, click and watch the video with mind blowing > information. > > I hope you like what you hear and see. > > Hugs Mary > > http://www.bewellbuzz.com/general/david-wolfe-on-thebestdayevercom/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Slavek, I got lost in the long post, in short, do you mean Bob Beck electrifier and orgones are not advisable? I used blood electrifier on my wrists twice and on painful parts of face and gums, did i lose my natural electro process in the body? What is your feedback on scalar pendants? Thanks. Melly oleander soup , slavek krepelka <slavek.krepelka wrote: > > Hi Maria at al > > Well, quite an amazing rediscovery. > > http://health.Beck-blood-electrification/message/11020 > > This is a repost from the above group I have posted there Feb 8. 2010. > Not that is is from my head, just doing my homework. > > ---------- > Hi Dick, > > You have just managed to give me a pile of thinking and eventually > typing. I will keep this post as short as I dare to, to just bring a few > points home. I hope the moderator is not gona get too mad with me, as we > are sure off B. Beck topic, although B. Beck has some involvement in > this by correlation as well, only that I do not see that one quite > clearly. But his process does cause electric potentiation in all blood > borne chemicals and is part of this can of worms as well. > > There are a few facts I have to state from the works of assorted > researchers, which I do not expect most of you to be familiar with. > > Peter Staheli, as referred, makes the same mistake which 99.9999% of all > other researchers make. He tries to pin the causation onto a single > phenomenon, which is horribly wrong in most cases and horribly > shortsighted. Never the less, he makes a clear point on the part he has > researched and there is nothing wrong with that, as far as I can see. > > His research [at al] boils down to a single fact. " A grounded person > shall not accumulate the positive charge, as opposed to an ungrounded > person. " What follows from such buildup are changes in the electric > balances and imbalances of electric exchange among the cells and > chemicals and among the chemicals themselves in the living tissues and > therefore all living creatures. Their chemical reactance will change. > > Robert Becker, displaying the same shortsightedness blaming strictly EM > radiation and induction from power lines within living tissues. Yet he > has also produced good evidence for his part of this electro influence > conglomerate. It can be fairly safely speculated, that if AC in power > lines produces positive ionization in the surrounding air, the AC > produced in living tissues by induction through EM radiation will again > build up and accumulate the positive charge, unless grounded [plus the > AC currents, whatever their effect may be]. Here we are back to the fact > that: " A grounded person shall not accumulate the positive charge, as > opposed to an ungrounded person. " > > Here comes the Ace of them all, for his original and so far criminally > suppressed and neglected research, one Wilhelm Reich. Of all his > research I am familiar with, the fact most relevant to this line of > inquiry, is the observation made by all who have ever personally > operated cloud busters, before the problem became widely known within > the small fraternity and now avoided. > > Poorly grounded cloud buster operators would suffer symptoms usually > starting with a headache, then fatigue, then nausea and could end up in > a loss of consciousness. They pretty much suffered from severe sun > stroke symptoms within very short period of time. This is not > necessarily positive static only, if at all. Reich coined the term > orgone for the phenomenon, which appears has somewhat different > characteristics from static, but I have to check a few others, like > Franklin, to hopefully get it somewhat nailed down. > > This is a scope for a book, never mind a post. But you Dick sure have > triggered correlations I have not so far seen. Thank you. > > The only thing I can say is: " People, ground yourself as much as > possible. " > > The reason is as I mentioned above, once you build up what may be called > a positive charge field, aura?, it is of course uneven through out and > around the body depending on the kind of tissues, being a manifestation > of unnatural potentials within the body. These altered electric [and > orgone] potential relationships wreak havoc upon the electro processes > in the body. > > The first body system to deal with this problem is the nervous system. > It attempts to supply, route, reroute and compensate. The nervous system > is pretty much your electric (and orgone) system [intelligent wiring]. > Here come the headaches to start with, the fatigue which follows, the > nausea telling you that you are as good as poisoned, and possibly the > fainting when the nerves can't cope no more due to the lack of capacity > and shut down the non essentials. This is the acute sun stroke, mostly > an orgone [cloud busting and sun stroke] problem. The electric problem > appears to be usually sub clinical, but chronic. > > The second come organs which take care of detox of the body along with > enzymes, glands, hormones etc. Enzymes and hormones are catalysts which > operate with electric potentials of less than one electron volt. They > compliment electric fields of chemicals and receptors causing [and > preventing] reactions, which would otherwise never happen, or happen on > insufficient scale, or happen on two grand a scale. The function of > kidneys, liver, pancreas, glands will be of course negatively affected. > Even if the over all positive charge (and the wrong frequencies orgone > field when mild) may appear irrelevant when they do not manifest > themselves with acute symptoms, the sub clinical state of pretty much a > sunstroke will have an erosive effect on the body functions on its > cellular and intracellular level in a long run. > > This erosion may be more critical than any initial chemical > contamination. Body might have a chance to deal with poisonous > pollutants, be it natural or man made, if its electric and orgone > processes were intact as natural. Once this condition is breached, even > the most natural and wholesome foods may become poisonous, even fatally > [allergens]. No chemicals, proteins, hormones, receptors etc. in your > body will chemically and solubly react as intended with what you digest. > [And here we go to J. Budwig and most of all W.F.Koch and back to Beck > and Godzila etc., while we skipped Joe Hiding, Lee Crock and who knows > how many others.] > > With kind regards, Slavek. > > ---------- > > As a final note, there are fabrics impregnated with different metals by > vacuum evaporation methods which are suitable for sawing anything from > bed sheets to pajamas. I would not recommend direct body contact though. > An under sheet for a bed, covered with a cotton sheet, would be ideal on > the other hand for grounding oneself during nights. > > The only source I have ever doug up which has a large assortment of such > fabrics at bearable prices is here. > > http://www.lessemf.com/fabric.html > > Maria wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi group, i think this is a must watch video , go on the site and > > stroll down all the way to the botom of the page. There on the left > > hand side shows a shoe, click and watch the video with mind blowing > > information. > > > > I hope you like what you hear and see. > > > > Hugs Mary > > > > http://www.bewellbuzz.com/general/david-wolfe-on-thebestdayevercom/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 oleander soup , slavek krepelka <slavek.krepelka wrote: > >> His research [at al] boils down to a single fact. " A grounded person > shall not accumulate the positive charge, as opposed to an ungrounded > person. " What follows from such buildup are changes in the electric > balances and imbalances of electric exchange among the cells and > chemicals and among the chemicals themselves in the living tissues and > therefore all living creatures. Their chemical reactance will change. > > Slavek, I confess to not having enough understanding of things to completely follow your post, but the above 'grounded person' quote really caught my attention. I have been aware of and concerned about EMF issues for quite a few years. I remember seeing somewhere (but not having the sense to capture & save) several years ago an article about positive effects of a person being outside on the ground barefooted that showed pics of thermal scan differences. What little understanding I have tells me that barefooted on the ground constitutes 'being grounded', so I'm wondering if that has bearing on your article. Would we be well advised to consider trying to spend as much barefootin' time as we can? Do you have any other simple, practical suggestions? Thanks much & blessings, Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Hi Slavek. The information you post was very good, but to long for me to take in everything. So i would take the easy way out and walk barefoot as much as possible. Hugs Mary - slavek krepelka oleander soup Friday, February 19, 2010 7:38 PM Re: Ground yourself viseo Hi Maria at alWell, quite an amazing rediscovery.http://health.Beck-blood-electrification/message/11020This is a repost from the above group I have posted there Feb 8. 2010.Not that is is from my head, just doing my homework.----------Hi Dick,You have just managed to give me a pile of thinking and eventuallytyping. I will keep this post as short as I dare to, to just bring a fewpoints home. I hope the moderator is not gona get too mad with me, as weare sure off B. Beck topic, although B. Beck has some involvement inthis by correlation as well, only that I do not see that one quiteclearly. But his process does cause electric potentiation in all bloodborne chemicals and is part of this can of worms as well.There are a few facts I have to state from the works of assortedresearchers, which I do not expect most of you to be familiar with.Peter Staheli, as referred, makes the same mistake which 99.9999% of allother researchers make. He tries to pin the causation onto a singlephenomenon, which is horribly wrong in most cases and horriblyshortsighted. Never the less, he makes a clear point on the part he hasresearched and there is nothing wrong with that, as far as I can see.His research [at al] boils down to a single fact. "A grounded personshall not accumulate the positive charge, as opposed to an ungroundedperson." What follows from such buildup are changes in the electricbalances and imbalances of electric exchange among the cells andchemicals and among the chemicals themselves in the living tissues andtherefore all living creatures. Their chemical reactance will change.Robert Becker, displaying the same shortsightedness blaming strictly EMradiation and induction from power lines within living tissues. Yet hehas also produced good evidence for his part of this electro influenceconglomerate. It can be fairly safely speculated, that if AC in powerlines produces positive ionization in the surrounding air, the ACproduced in living tissues by induction through EM radiation will againbuild up and accumulate the positive charge, unless grounded [plus theAC currents, whatever their effect may be]. Here we are back to the factthat: "A grounded person shall not accumulate the positive charge, asopposed to an ungrounded person."Here comes the Ace of them all, for his original and so far criminallysuppressed and neglected research, one Wilhelm Reich. Of all hisresearch I am familiar with, the fact most relevant to this line ofinquiry, is the observation made by all who have ever personallyoperated cloud busters, before the problem became widely known withinthe small fraternity and now avoided.Poorly grounded cloud buster operators would suffer symptoms usuallystarting with a headache, then fatigue, then nausea and could end up ina loss of consciousness. They pretty much suffered from severe sunstroke symptoms within very short period of time. This is notnecessarily positive static only, if at all. Reich coined the termorgone for the phenomenon, which appears has somewhat differentcharacteristics from static, but I have to check a few others, likeFranklin, to hopefully get it somewhat nailed down.This is a scope for a book, never mind a post. But you Dick sure havetriggered correlations I have not so far seen. Thank you.The only thing I can say is: "People, ground yourself as much aspossible."The reason is as I mentioned above, once you build up what may be calleda positive charge field, aura?, it is of course uneven through out andaround the body depending on the kind of tissues, being a manifestationof unnatural potentials within the body. These altered electric [andorgone] potential relationships wreak havoc upon the electro processesin the body.The first body system to deal with this problem is the nervous system.It attempts to supply, route, reroute and compensate. The nervous systemis pretty much your electric (and orgone) system [intelligent wiring].Here come the headaches to start with, the fatigue which follows, thenausea telling you that you are as good as poisoned, and possibly thefainting when the nerves can't cope no more due to the lack of capacityand shut down the non essentials. This is the acute sun stroke, mostlyan orgone [cloud busting and sun stroke] problem. The electric problemappears to be usually sub clinical, but chronic.The second come organs which take care of detox of the body along withenzymes, glands, hormones etc. Enzymes and hormones are catalysts whichoperate with electric potentials of less than one electron volt. Theycompliment electric fields of chemicals and receptors causing [andpreventing] reactions, which would otherwise never happen, or happen oninsufficient scale, or happen on two grand a scale. The function ofkidneys, liver, pancreas, glands will be of course negatively affected.Even if the over all positive charge (and the wrong frequencies orgonefield when mild) may appear irrelevant when they do not manifestthemselves with acute symptoms, the sub clinical state of pretty much asunstroke will have an erosive effect on the body functions on itscellular and intracellular level in a long run.This erosion may be more critical than any initial chemicalcontamination. Body might have a chance to deal with poisonouspollutants, be it natural or man made, if its electric and orgoneprocesses were intact as natural. Once this condition is breached, eventhe most natural and wholesome foods may become poisonous, even fatally[allergens]. No chemicals, proteins, hormones, receptors etc. in yourbody will chemically and solubly react as intended with what you digest.[And here we go to J. Budwig and most of all W.FKoch and back to Beckand Godzila etc., while we skipped Joe Hiding, Lee Crock and who knowshow many others.]With kind regards, Slavek.----------As a final note, there are fabrics impregnated with different metals byvacuum evaporation methods which are suitable for sawing anything frombed sheets to pajamas. I would not recommend direct body contact though.An under sheet for a bed, covered with a cotton sheet, would be ideal onthe other hand for grounding oneself during nights.The only source I have ever doug up which has a large assortment of suchfabrics at bearable prices is here.http://www.lessemf.com/fabric.htmlMaria wrote:> > > > Hi group, i think this is a must watch video , go on the site and> stroll down all the way to the botom of the page. There on the left> hand side shows a shoe, click and watch the video with mind blowing> information.> > I hope you like what you hear and see.> > Hugs Mary> > http://www.bewellbuzz.com/general/david-wolfe-on-thebestdayevercom/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Hi Melly Using Beck protocol is very advisable. I have been on it for since 2 January with moderate results for what ails me, no cancer, but a slew of chronic problems, nothing so far life threatening. With the ongoing research I am actually switching to straight DC current applications. Electrifying with Beck or Godzila and other zappers definitely has effect on body electric exchanges, but from experience, they do not appear to cause any noticeable problems. There has to be a difference between locally applied and lets say 2/day 1/2 hour exposures, even to relatively high el. current, and a 24/7 exposure to lets say electromagnetic, or static fields. Dr. Becker's research used weak el. currents locally [body parts] with his patients for months while regenerating their sometime massive injuries with a great success. What is local and intermittent for you using lets say a Beck device is general for the virus, bacteria, spores, parasites and fungi. They obviously take much less than we do to kill them. So, please! do not toss your electrifier, if anything, it will only do you good. You may also check out Godzila, as I am finding out that its efficiency should be and is pronouncedly better than pulsers. Actually, anyone with cancer, be it tumors, or leukemia, would be strongly advised to pick up this line of research and apply it. Godzila is dirt cheap and simple to rig up and the treatment of tumors appears to be very effective, without sticking electrodes into the body. I will type up and upload the principles of application on my site over the weekend and post it here. The way the Godzila is applied is very important, so that one would not use excessive currents [too weak will be difficult to achieve] and that the currents do get across where needed. When I have it up, I will post it. The zapping may have some conflict with medical drugs though and anyone going into it should be cautious combining electro-remissions with chemo-cures. I had personally no conflict with natural stuff like garlic, coffee, alcohol etc. despite Bob Beck's warning of absolute no non. When it comes to pendants of any kind claiming to be of orgonomic value, I am extremely skeptical. This is not because I would not be aware of Wilhelm Reich research and results, or of the fact that some people do happen to be wizards, or that every material has its own and superimposed fields which do affect us and " charm " us, but because I am also aware of the multitude of unscrupulous characters who will sell you anything as long as you pay, disregards what it may or may not do for you. But again they are not likely to harm you. If I were to wear some such necklaces, I would use pebbles from a fast running clean stream in a lather, or cotton pouch, changing them may be once or twice a year. I would definitely shy away from drilling, or otherwise damaging them. With kind regards, Slavek. PS. Someone has just posted a testimonial on leukemia and HIV on Beck-Blood-Protocol using Beck protocol. You may want to read it. http://health.Beck-blood-electrification/message/11093 tita_mel wrote: > > > > Slavek, > > I got lost in the long post, in short, do you mean Bob Beck > electrifier and orgones are not advisable? I used blood electrifier on > my wrists twice and on painful parts of face and gums, did i lose my > natural electro process in the body? What is your feedback on scalar > pendants? > > Thanks. > > Melly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Hi Judy, The posted video summed it up fairly well. Walk barefoot outdoors as long as it is grassy, muddy etc. Walking pavements without good shoes is no good. Pavements will bring you problems with the foot structure. Avoid heavily used pastures, which pose a fair risk of parasitic infection. Swim outdoors as much as possible, wade the creeks, even in some kind of shoes, lets say old running shoes etc. The water will still provide the connection and protect you from injuring yourself on whatever. But! How many of us can really afford to do these on daily bases, and year round? Here comes the night time for those who can't. A conductive material sheet right below the fitted bed sheet, grounded to whatever, will provide 7-9 hours of grounded sleep a day. Here I am going to chip in, that if you raise the head of the bed or the matters some 4-6 inches as well, it will do you good too, as it helps lymphatic system circulation. It helps cleaning it [courtesy of Andrew Fletcher]. Whoever may have steel head boards or steel bed, may use those to ground instead of the conductive sheet. I would prefer dedicated grounding directly to the house water system, as long as the piping is metal. Metal piping is the best and guarantied option to ground, but using an electric outlet ground [round pin only] will do as well, as long as it is really grounded. If it is not grounded, it will do you WRONG! With kind regards, Slavek. judithmarg wrote: > > > > oleander soup , slavek krepelka <slavek.krepelka@ > ...> wrote: > > > >> His research [at al] boils down to a single fact. " A grounded > person > > shall not accumulate the positive charge, as opposed to an > ungrounded > > person. " What follows from such buildup are changes in the electric > > balances and imbalances of electric exchange among the cells and > > chemicals and among the chemicals themselves in the living tissues > and > > therefore all living creatures. Their chemical reactance will > change. > > > > > Slavek, > I confess to not having enough understanding of things to completely > follow your post, but the above 'grounded person' quote really caught > my attention. I have been aware of and concerned about EMF issues for > quite a few years. > I remember seeing somewhere (but not having the sense to capture & > save) several years ago an article about positive effects of a person > being outside on the ground barefooted that showed pics of thermal > scan differences. > What little understanding I have tells me that barefooted on the > ground constitutes 'being grounded', so I'm wondering if that has > bearing on your article. > Would we be well advised to consider trying to spend as much > barefootin' time as we can? > Do you have any other simple, practical suggestions? > Thanks much & blessings, > Judy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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