Antioxidant values? Fruit juices vs. supplement capsules?

[Guest guest]

How do I compare antioxidant values for fruit juices to supplement

capsules and other antioxidants?

 

I bought two different forms of antioxidants and I don't know enough

about it to know which form might give me the most antioxidant value

for the money. One form is capsules of grape seed extract and another

bottle that is Pycnogenol from pine bark the other form is bottled

pomegranate fruit juice. There are other juices with high antioxidant

reputations, but how do I compare them?

 

Do I need to pay for tests? Or can I look up results in a ORAC

database? Is that available for me to see?

 

I like that the capsules are compact and a lot of antioxidant value

can be stored in a small space and being small, it is logistically

easer and more practical to have it be refrigerated for most of the

time that I store it. Another form of antioxidant is bottled fruit

juices in glass jars of varieties that are particularly high in

antioxidants like pomegranate juice and black cherry juice and some

others for variety, too. Though not as compact, it does double as

storage of drink and it adds taste and flavor which if all else is

equal I would favor the flavor. But, I have presently no way of

knowing if it takes 48 jars of pomegranate juice to equal the

antioxidant value of one capsule of grape seed extract or the other

way around.

 

I would like to know soon because both are on very good sale prices

and I would like to stock up on whichever is the best antioxidant

value before the sale is over.

 

I eat a lot of fresh fruits and vegetables, but the jars are great

for at work when I don't have time to slice up a pineapple, etc. I'm

not sure which choice is best to put the most money for the

healthfulness of having antioxidants for future harsh times when

using preparedness food storage is necessary. I expect I might do

some of both, but don't know which should be my main supply. Anyone

with knowledge of this and especially which ones have the most

antioxidant value for the money, please post what you know.

 

I have recently made the decision to increase my food budget to

include more of the expensive especially healthful foods. I am very

frugal and thrifty, but I will now be less so for healthful foods as

that is likely my best spent money for health.

 

Comments and more information are invited.

 

Ronald H Levine

1042 E Fort Union Blvd #231

Midvale, Utah 84047-1800

[Guest guest]

I think it's a mistake to go by ORAC, because that does not imply the

benefits are obtained from a spectrum of antioxidants; antioxidants

work together and each performs a function or two that most of the

others do not.

 

So, a lower ORAC with more of a variety of antioxidants would be

better IF it addresses a spectrum of oxidizing factors that the

single-purpose antioxidant does not. Also, the most important

antioxidant in the body, glutathione, is created inside every cell

from precursors that have zero ORAC value.

 

For a thorough understanding of the interlinked processes, get Dr.

White and Dr. McLeod's book The Miracle of Antioxidants.

 

Bonnie.

 

, " Ronald H Levine

566-2112 after 5 pm weekdays & anytime Saturday & Sunday. "

<RonaldHLevine wrote:

>

> How do I compare antioxidant values for fruit juices to supplement

> capsules and other antioxidants?

>

> I bought two different forms of antioxidants and I don't know

enough

> about it to know which form might give me the most antioxidant

value

> for the money. One form is capsules of grape seed extract and

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Bonnie (and group). I greatly appreciate your reply and your

answer does ring true with me, so I will look into the book you

recommend. In time I hope to have the knowledge to make good choices in

my antioxidant purchases, but due to a sense of urgency to stock up on

my food storage to include antioxidants, I will be spending my hard

earned money perhaps before I know how to make good antioxidant choices.

 

Since my post to which you have replied I have bought two more cases of

pomegranate juice at a good sale price and one case of grape juice in

glass bottles and I have also bought three more bottles of grape seed

extract that normally sells for over $50 a bottle and is on sale for

about $15 a bottle. I wanted to do this before the sale ended. Though

I bought what might seem like a lot, I do plan to stock up much more and

hope to have the knowledge to get the best antioxidant value for the

dollar.

 

I do very much appreciate the wondrous design of the human body with the

ability to create glutathione. I am blessed with phenomenal health and

fitness and suspect that my body has done well in creating antioxidants

and being healthy. I just want to do as much of my part that I can as I

learn more. Generally I have eaten a variety of foods to give my body a

chance to find in it everything it needs regardless of what I know to

give it. As I learn more, I have made sure to get particular foods and

eliminate substances that do not belong in my food.

 

For those who have already studied antioxidants, your comments and

suggestions are invited. I am still particularly wondering if I might

be getting a better nutrition value in buying foods instead of capsules

of supplements as I suspect that good food choices are a better

nutritional value and I enjoy food as I like the flavors and taste and

eating and drinking juices.

 

For larger storage of nutritious juices I am just starting to look into

buying a large enough quantity that food companies will fill a custom

order of freeze dried pomegranate and other nutritious juices which I

will high-vacuum pack inside canning jars and store at low temperatures.

 

I will likely also be looking into a bulk purchase of antioxidants.

Perhaps this should be grape seed extract, but I will learn more and

hope to get more suggestions from this group.

 

Ronald H Levine

Midvale, Utah

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Bonnie

Moss

Sunday, April 01, 2007 3:05 PM

 

Re: Antioxidant values? Fruit

juices vs. supplement capsules?

 

I think it's a mistake to go by ORAC, because that does not imply the

benefits are obtained from a spectrum of antioxidants; antioxidants work

together and each performs a function or two that most of the others do

not.

 

So, a lower ORAC with more of a variety of antioxidants would be

[Guest guest]

Ron, the bookplace www.abe.com has some used copies of the miracle of

antioxidants by white and mcleod. I don't know why, I think it's a

keeper.

 

Bonnie.

 

, " Ronald H Levine "

<RonaldHLevine wrote:

>

> Thanks, Bonnie (and group). I greatly appreciate your reply and your

> answer does ring true with me, so I will look into the book you

> recommend.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Bonnie (and group),

 

I found that book there:

 

http://tinyurl.com/36edrl

 

Another health thing I have been doing in recent years is using healthy

oils and eliminating others from my diet. I eat nuts and avocados and

lots of eggs and virgin coconut oil from the Philippians and virgin palm

oil from Africa. I also eat butter, but I stay away from the highly

unnatural hydrogenated oils.

 

Ronald H Levine

Midvale, Utah

 

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- Bonnie Moss

Monday, April 02, 2007 12:26 PM