Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 I have had two friends die in the past 3 weeks--as a result of the side effects of chemo therapy--not the cancer---and YES their DR. told them this, so it wasn't just the family feeling this way. Fran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 I'm terribly sorry for your loss. Can you tell me exactly what it was that the chemo did to them to have such a terrible outcome? I ask because my dad has stage IV lung cancer and just received his first full does of his checmo (carboplatnum and Taxadera (spelling?)) and he landed in the hospital 3 days later due to his white blood cells being killed. He ended up with neumonia and had to have a blood transfusion. , " Fran " <frannyjo wrote: > > I have had two friends die in the past 3 weeks--as a result of the side effects of chemo therapy--not the cancer---and YES their DR. told them this, so it wasn't just the family feeling this way. Fran > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 It destroys the immune system. Thats what happened to your father. You would think it would occur to them you need an immune system. Cancer medicine is a religion to be accepted blindly. No matter how absurd the modality. Meanwhile cesium therapy is not used because it is not in the Harvard Data base. Nor will it ever be. It is public domain. So who will pay the couple of million for trials when they cant patent it? The American Cancer Society went so far as to put up a page warning of toxicity. 130-150 grams is LD50 (lethal dose at which 50% of the subjects die) Tell me what happens if you swallow 150 grams of NaCl - table salt. (5.36 oz) Kirk sundovep <sundovep wrote: I'm terribly sorry for your loss. Can you tell me exactly what it was that the chemo did to them to have such a terrible outcome? I ask because my dad has stage IV lung cancer and just received his first full does of his checmo (carboplatnum and Taxadera (spelling?)) and he landed in the hospital 3 days later due to his white blood cells being killed. He ended up with neumonia and had to have a blood transfusion. Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check outnew cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 Chemo and radiation are a scam designed to make the industry connected to it wealthy. It does nothing to help the patient. Only 3% of patients treated with chemo have a remission from cancer compared to 70% of patients that use alternative treatments like cesium chloride. Ty Bollinger's book: Cancer-step outside the box explains the situation with politics,money and lies connected to fleecing cancer patients. Chemo shortens the life, not extends it when you have cancer. Chemo kills your imune system and destroys any hope of recovery. Chemo is a scam that has been fooling people for over 50 yrs. and just makes billions for Big Pharma and all those connected to it. , " sundovep " <sundovep wrote: > > I'm terribly sorry for your loss. Can you tell me exactly what it was > that the chemo did to them to have such a terrible outcome? I ask > because my dad has stage IV lung cancer and just received his first > full does of his checmo (carboplatnum and Taxadera (spelling?)) and he > landed in the hospital 3 days later due to his white blood cells being > killed. He ended up with neumonia and had to have a blood > transfusion. > > > , " Fran " > <frannyjo@> wrote: > > > > I have had two friends die in the past 3 weeks--as a result of the > side effects of chemo therapy--not the cancer---and YES their DR. told > them this, so it wasn't just the family feeling this way. Fran > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 Chemo and radiation are a scam to make money for Big Pharma. Chemo slowly poisons the patient to death. It destroys the immune system and does not extend the life of the patient. There are many alternative cancer treatments that work much better at killing the cancer instead of the patient. Someday people will wake up and realize what has been going on for the last 50 yrs. is criminal. Only 3% of people treated with chemo improve. Studies show that over 6% would improve on their own without chemo anyway! , " sundovep " <sundovep wrote: > > I'm terribly sorry for your loss. Can you tell me exactly what it was > that the chemo did to them to have such a terrible outcome? I ask > because my dad has stage IV lung cancer and just received his first > full does of his checmo (carboplatnum and Taxadera (spelling?)) and he > landed in the hospital 3 days later due to his white blood cells being > killed. He ended up with neumonia and had to have a blood > transfusion. > > > , " Fran " > <frannyjo@> wrote: > > > > I have had two friends die in the past 3 weeks--as a result of the > side effects of chemo therapy--not the cancer---and YES their DR. told > them this, so it wasn't just the family feeling this way. Fran > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 Moderator's Note: I do agree that you should always try to back up your claims.. That being said, I think there is something to be said for common sense and good ole reasoning. When your at your sickest is it wise to expose the body to the most feared contamination- radiation- or perhaps try to build the health of the body up through alternative health means. Obviously make your own call, but for me my choice is made. -------------- Got any links to research to back up those assertions? I want to pass the info on, and having links to hard evidence is more useful than simply making assertions. Alobar On 4/28/07, thebigyeast <endofcherrylane wrote: > Chemo and radiation are a scam to make money for Big Pharma. Chemo > slowly poisons the patient to death. It destroys the immune system > and does not extend the life of the patient. There are many Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 My good wife almost didn't survive open-heart surgery. > Lung and heart problems developed after chemo > and radiation after breast cancer surgery. Lots of > things to work on troops. > Doug > > > > > > Chemo and radiation are a scam designed to make the > industry > connected to it wealthy. It does nothing to help > the patient. Only > 3% of patients treated with chemo have a remission > from cancer > compared to 70% of patients that use alternative > treatments like > cesium chloride. Ty Bollinger's book: Cancer-step > outside the box > explains the situation with politics,money and lies > connected to > fleecing cancer patients. Chemo shortens the life, > not extends it > when you have cancer. Chemo kills your imune system > and destroys any > hope of recovery. Chemo is a scam that has been fooling > people for > over 50 yrs. and just makes billions for Big Pharma > and all those > connected to it. > > Alternative_ Medicine_Forum , " sundovep " > <sundovep wrote: > > > > I'm terribly sorry for your loss. Can you tell > me exactly what it > was > > that the chemo did to them to have such a terrible > outcome? I ask > > because my dad has stage IV lung cancer and just > received his > first > > full does of his checmo (carboplatnum and Taxadera > (spelling?)) > and he > > landed in the hospital 3 days later due to his > white blood cells > being > > killed. He ended up with neumonia and had to have > a blood > > transfusion. > > > > > > Alternative_ Medicine_Forum , " Fran " > > <frannyjo@> wrote: > > > > > > I have had two friends die in the past 3 weeks--as > a result of > the > > side effects of chemo therapy--not the cancer---and > YES their DR. > told > > them this, so it wasn't just the family feeling > this way. Fran > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 Dr. Howenstine has all the irrefutable evidence anyone would need on the subject of cancer and alternative treatments. Just google in Cesium chloride and Dr. Howenstine. tby. , Alobar <Alobar wrote: > > Moderator's Note: I do agree that you should always try to back up your claims.. That being said, I think there is something to be said for common sense and good ole reasoning. When your at your sickest is it wise to expose the body to the most feared contamination- radiation- or perhaps try to build the health of the body up through alternative health means. Obviously make your own call, but for me my choice is made. > -------------- > Got any links to research to back up those assertions? I want to > pass the info on, and having links to hard evidence is more useful > than simply making assertions. > > Alobar > > On 4/28/07, thebigyeast <endofcherrylane wrote: > > Chemo and radiation are a scam to make money for Big Pharma. Chemo > > slowly poisons the patient to death. It destroys the immune system > > and does not extend the life of the patient. There are many > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 http://www.preferrednetwork.com/Death_by_Medicine.htm The total number of iatrogenic deaths shown in the following table is 783,936. It is evident that the American medical system is the leading cause of death and injury in the United States. The 2001 heart disease annual death rate is 699,697; the annual cancer death rate, 553,251.5 Even greater numbers of iatrogenic deaths will eventually come to light when all facets of health care delivery are measured. Remember those are reported numbers. How many go unreported? Non conventional cancer treatments involve - usually - patients that are told all has been done, get your affairs in order. Yet significant numbers from this fragile group are saved. We also see animal experiments with cure rates over 95% yet these substances never see testing. If we really had a health department these non patentable modalities could be subjected to double blind tests and statistics derived. If. . . . . So you are on your own. If you do not take an active interest in your own health care you will be just a statistic. Blind faith in a system that is the leading cause of death and injury seems more than neurotic to me. Yet, that is the norm I believe. Kirk Alobar <Alobar wrote: Moderator's Note: I do agree that you should always try to back up your claims.. That being said, I think there is something to be said for common sense and good ole reasoning. When your at your sickest is it wise to expose the body to the most feared contamination- radiation- or perhaps try to build the health of the body up through alternative health means. Obviously make your own call, but for me my choice is made. -------------- Got any links to research to back up those assertions? I want to pass the info on, and having links to hard evidence is more useful than simply making assertions. Alobar On 4/28/07, thebigyeast wrote: > Chemo and radiation are a scam to make money for Big Pharma. Chemo > slowly poisons the patient to death. It destroys the immune system > and does not extend the life of the patient. There are many Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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