Medical Insurance was// Heart Disease and Tooth Loss

[Guest guest]

Here our medical insurance has an "extras" option which includes dental, chiropractic, optical, naturopathic, podiatry, psychology, physiotherapy and speech pathology.

 

I don't have any hospital cover, just the extras, costs me $25 a month.

 

Best,

 

Jane in Oz.

 

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S. E.

Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:15 PM

Re:Heart Disease and Tooth Loss

 

It's all so obvious.

So, why is there little to no dental coverage included with health insurance plans? Especially Medicare plans?

 

 

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Well, the state cover your hospital cost......right.Den 13/03/2008 kl. 23.47 skrev Jane MacRoss:Here our medical insurance has an "extras" option which includes dental, chiropractic, optical, naturopathic, podiatry, psychology, physiotherapy and speech pathology. I don't have any hospital cover, just the extras, costs me $25 a month. Best, Jane in Oz.-S. E. Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:15 PM Re:Heart Disease and Tooth LossIt's all so obvious.So, why is there little to no dental coverage included with health insurance plans? Especially Medicare plans?Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

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If I need a hospital it will be because I have been run over in which case the Traffic Accident Commission will cover it

 

Best,

 

Jane

 

 

Kenn Johnsen

Well, the state cover your hospital cost......right.

[Guest guest]

Aha....you have confidants in your fate, but what is your system down under....is it not state run - covered hospital......?KennDen 14/03/2008 kl. 00.12 skrev Jane MacRoss:If I need a hospital it will be because I have been run over in which case the Traffic Accident Commission will cover it Best, Jane Kenn Johnsen Well, the state cover your hospital cost......right.

[Guest guest]

At 06:47 PM 3/13/2008, you wrote:

Wow - that's fantastic....am practically on my way over there

now...*grin* I wish people who wanted to take cues from other countries

insurance would take a gander at yours! Can you see a doc or whatever

when you need to? Or, do you have to wait a long time like they do in

England?

Lynn

 

 

Here our medical insurance has an

" extras " option which includes dental, chiropractic, optical,

naturopathic, podiatry, psychology, physiotherapy and speech

pathology.

 

I don't have any hospital cover, just

the extras, costs me $25 a month.

 

Best,

 

Jane in Oz.

 

 

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S. E.

To:

 

Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:15 PM

Re:Heart Disease and Tooth

Loss

It's all so obvious.

So, why is there little to no dental coverage included with health

insurance plans? Especially Medicare plans?

[Guest guest]

It sounds great, true... having been without the extras for long

time, I did either without, waited for waiting periods (2 yrs for

glasses, dentist in clinics for up to 2 years) or paid for the extra

needs after months of saving up.

With dental costs sending me close to broke I decided to take out

the 'extras' like Jane has.. and guess what.. my dentist bill is

close to 2x as high plus a gap still to be paid out of pocket by

me.. Makes ya wonder.

Waiting periods for surgery in hospitals is like it is worldwide..

months if not years. For one type of surgery I was put on a waiting

list. After 12 months I received a questionnaire wondering if surgery was

still needed( I replied that I hadn't had a chance to do it myself

yet..geez).

Another 12 months passed when I got invited for the surgery, to be

cancelled the day after as another patient had come up. Couldn't help but

wonder if this patient was a private patient.

The health care system is sick, no matter where one lives.

BTW.. this is my own experience

 

 

At 11:48 AM 14/03/2008, you wrote:

At 06:47 PM 3/13/2008, you

wrote:

Wow - that's fantastic....am practically on my way over there

now...*grin* I wish people who wanted to take cues from other countries

insurance would take a gander at yours! Can you see a doc or whatever

when you need to? Or, do you have to wait a long time like they do in

England?

Lynn

 

 

Here our medical insurance has an " extras " option which

includes dental, chiropractic, optical, naturopathic, podiatry,

psychology, physiotherapy and speech pathology.

 

I don't have any hospital cover, just the

extras, costs me $25 a month.

 

Best,

 

Jane in Oz.

 

- S. E. To:

 

Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:15 PM

Re:Heart Disease and Tooth Loss

It's all so obvious.

So, why is there little to no dental coverage included with health

insurance plans? Especially Medicare plans?

 

 

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[Guest guest]

At 07:12 PM 3/13/2008, you wrote:

You mean, if you are in an auto accident and get hurt, the TAC will pay

for your hospital costs? that's amazing.....

Lynn

 

 

If I need a hospital it will be because I

have been run over in which case the Traffic Accident Commission will

cover it

 

Best,

 

Jane

 

 

 

Kenn Johnsen

 

Well, the state cover your hospital cost......right.

[Guest guest]

At 09:39 PM 3/13/2008, you wrote:

Gee..... I'm sorry to hear you've had such a tough time. I think

socialized medicine often sounds better to people who don't have it than

the reality. I have the military health insurance, Tricare. I recently

had to only wait a week for surgery. My DH went in for a

cardiocathizeration, and the same day was admitted to the hospital for an

angioplasty. Which was performed several hours later. The cardiocath only

took a week to set up after he saw the doctor. I've had several surgeries

over the past 10-12 years, and none has taken longer than a month to set

up. Unfortunatley, it seems that worldwide, dental care does not seem to

be that important. It's a shame, because I think it's very important on

several levels. I think it's also odd, that if you have something major

wrong with your eyes, it's often easier and cheaper for the patient to

get that fixed, than it is to get an eye check and glasses. Some plans

include dental and optical. Plus, one can purchase them fairly

inexpensively over here now. We've done just that, because our health

insurance doesn't pay for either. But, even if you do have those plans,

what they will pay for, versus the actual cost, is often minimal. I'm not

sure socializing medicine will make it any better, though. People seem to

think it will, but are not aware of the harsh realities that often go

along with it.

I recently got an article from an English paper (don't recall which)

about how there are many fewer doctors in England. And how, the junior

doctors (called residents in the U.S.) are having take up the slack and

are working an average of 80 to 100 hours week. In the U.S. it is not

uncommon for a resident to work those kinds of hours, but I guess it

wasn't like this in the U.K. They are also concerned, because fewer

people in the U.K. are choosing to be physicians. I'm not surprised!! So,

a system already burdened with too many people who need care, and not

enough space or doctors to treat them, is going to get worse. The article

also pointed out, that if one is going to be told how much they have to

work, and how much they can make, there isn't much incentive to go into

that field.

Lynn

 

It sounds great, true...

having been without the extras for long time, I did either without,

waited for waiting periods (2 yrs for glasses, dentist in clinics for up

to 2 years) or paid for the extra needs after months of saving up.

With dental costs sending me close to broke I decided to take out

the 'extras' like Jane has.. and guess what.. my dentist bill is

close to 2x as high plus a gap still to be paid out of pocket by

me.. Makes ya wonder.

Waiting periods for surgery in hospitals is like it is worldwide..

months if not years. For one type of surgery I was put on a waiting

list. After 12 months I received a questionnaire wondering if surgery was

still needed( I replied that I hadn't had a chance to do it myself

yet..geez).

Another 12 months passed when I got invited for the surgery, to be

cancelled the day after as another patient had come up. Couldn't help but

wonder if this patient was a private patient.

The health care system is sick, no matter where one lives.

BTW.. this is my own experience

 

 

At 11:48 AM 14/03/2008, you wrote:

At 06:47 PM 3/13/2008, you

wrote:

Wow - that's fantastic....am practically on my way over there

now...*grin* I wish people who wanted to take cues from other countries

insurance would take a gander at yours! Can you see a doc or whatever

when you need to? Or, do you have to wait a long time like they do in

England?

Lynn

 

 

Here our medical insurance has an

" extras " option which includes dental, chiropractic, optical,

naturopathic, podiatry, psychology, physiotherapy and speech

pathology.

 

I don't have any hospital cover, just

the extras, costs me $25 a month.

 

Best,

 

Jane in Oz.

- S. E. To:

 

Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:15 PM Re:Heart Disease and Tooth Loss

It's all so obvious. So, why is there little to no dental coverage included with health

insurance plans? Especially Medicare plans?

[Guest guest]

Just an observation........

once upon a time ...... Medicine was a 'calling' NOT a follow the $$$$$$$$

 

Ah.... the good old days!!!!!

 

Clare in Taz

[Guest guest]

LOL - well yes it is - is it not so in Denmark??

 

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Kenn Johnsen

Friday, March 14, 2008 10:22 AM

Re: Medical Insurance was// Heart Disease and Tooth Loss

Aha....you have confidants in your fate, but what is your system down under....is it not state run - covered hospital......?

 

Kenn

 

 

 

Den 14/03/2008 kl. 00.12 skrev Jane MacRoss:

 

 

 

 

 

 

If I need a hospital it will be because I have been run over in which case the Traffic Accident Commission will cover it

 

Best,

 

Jane

 

 

Kenn Johnsen

Well, the state cover your hospital cost......right.

[Guest guest]

I rarely need to see a Dr but can get in easily .............

 

Are you in UK Lynn?

 

Best,

 

Jane

 

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Lynn Ward

Friday, March 14, 2008 12:18 PM

Re: Medical Insurance was// Heart Disease and Tooth Loss

At 06:47 PM 3/13/2008, you wrote:Wow - that's fantastic....am practically on my way over there now...*grin* I wish people who wanted to take cues from other countries insurance would take a gander at yours! Can you see a doc or whatever when you need to? Or, do you have to wait a long time like they do in England?Lynn

[Guest guest]

Yes - it is great - I'd still rather not do it tho!!

 

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Lynn Ward

Friday, March 14, 2008 12:46 PM

Re: Medical Insurance was// Heart Disease and Tooth Loss

At 07:12 PM 3/13/2008, you wrote:You mean, if you are in an auto accident and get hurt, the TAC will pay for your hospital costs? that's amazing.....Lynn

[Guest guest]

Yes unfortunately it is, they change it in 1972 from a sygekasse - krankenkasse system. A club system in English.....? who on behalf of the members bought and paid.....whatever they needed.Den 14/03/2008 kl. 07.44 skrev Jane MacRoss:LOL - well yes it is - is it not so in Denmark??-Kenn Johnsen Friday, March 14, 2008 10:22 AMRe: Medical Insurance was// Heart Disease and Tooth LossAha....you have confidants in your fate, but what is your system down under....is it not state run - covered hospital......?KennDen 14/03/2008 kl. 00.12 skrev Jane MacRoss:If I need a hospital it will be because I have been run over in which case the Traffic Accident Commission will cover it Best, Jane Kenn Johnsen Well, the state cover your hospital cost......right.

[Guest guest]

So you wish your hospital system was not state run?

 

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Kenn Johnsen

Friday, March 14, 2008 9:39 PM

Re: Medical Insurance was// Heart Disease and Tooth Loss

Yes unfortunately it is, they change it in 1972 from a sygekasse - krankenkasse system. A club system in English.....? who on behalf of the members bought and paid.....whatever they needed.

 

 

 

 

Den 14/03/2008 kl. 07.44 skrev Jane MacRoss:

 

 

 

 

 

 

LOL - well yes it is - is it not so in Denmark??

 

-

Kenn Johnsen

 

Friday, March 14, 2008 10:22 AM

Re: Medical Insurance was// Heart Disease and Tooth Loss

Aha....you have confidants in your fate, but what is your system down under....is it not state run - covered hospital......?

 

Kenn

 

 

 

Den 14/03/2008 kl. 00.12 skrev Jane MacRoss:

 

 

 

 

 

 

If I need a hospital it will be because I have been run over in which case the Traffic Accident Commission will cover it

 

Best,

 

Jane

 

 

Kenn Johnsen

Well, the state cover your hospital cost......right.

[Guest guest]

Absolutely, I wish that I had something to say about my treatment, that I was treated like a customer. Not something there is a pain in their ass.Den 14/03/2008 kl. 11.49 skrev Jane MacRoss:So you wish your hospital system was not state run?-Kenn Johnsen Friday, March 14, 2008 9:39 PMRe: Medical Insurance was// Heart Disease and Tooth LossYes unfortunately it is, they change it in 1972 from a sygekasse - krankenkasse system. A club system in English.....? who on behalf of the members bought and paid.....whatever they needed.Den 14/03/2008 kl. 07.44 skrev Jane MacRoss:LOL - well yes it is - is it not so in Denmark??-Kenn Johnsen Friday, March 14, 2008 10:22 AMRe: Medical Insurance was// Heart Disease and Tooth LossAha....you have confidants in your fate, but what is your system down under....is it not state run - covered hospital......?KennDen 14/03/2008 kl. 00.12 skrev Jane MacRoss:If I need a hospital it will be because I have been run over in which case the Traffic Accident Commission will cover it Best, Jane Kenn Johnsen Well, the state cover your hospital cost......right.

[Guest guest]

At 03:01 AM 3/14/2008, you wrote:

No, I'm in the U.S. My sister lives over there - has for more than 30

years now. Is married to a Brit. She's a nurse and a midwife.

Lynn

 

I rarely need to see a Dr but can get in

easily .............

 

Are you in UK Lynn?

 

Best,

 

Jane

 

 

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Lynn Ward

To:

 

Friday, March 14, 2008 12:18 PM

Re: Medical Insurance was// Heart

Disease and Tooth Loss

At 06:47 PM 3/13/2008, you wrote:

Wow - that's fantastic....am practically on my way over there

now...*grin* I wish people who wanted to take cues from other countries

insurance would take a gander at yours! Can you see a doc or whatever

when you need to? Or, do you have to wait a long time like they do in

England?

Lynn

[Guest guest]

At 06:49 AM 3/14/2008, you wrote:

I suspect I know the answer, but have you noticed a degradation of

care?

Lynn

 

So you wish your hospital system was not

state run?

 

 

-

Kenn Johnsen

To:

 

Friday, March 14, 2008 9:39 PM

Re: Medical Insurance was// Heart

Disease and Tooth Loss

Yes unfortunately it is, they change it in 1972 from a sygekasse -

krankenkasse system. A club system in English.....? who on behalf of the

members bought and paid.....whatever they needed.

 

Den 14/03/2008 kl. 07.44 skrev Jane MacRoss:

 

 

LOL - well yes it is - is it not so in

Denmark??

 

 

-

Kenn Johnsen

To:

 

 

Friday, March 14, 2008 10:22 AM

Re: Medical Insurance was// Heart

Disease and Tooth Loss

Aha....you have confidants in your fate, but what is your system down

under....is it not state run - covered hospital......?

[Guest guest]

You probably are a pain in their asses lol. Why not study naturopathy formally so you don't need their services!

 

 

Kenn Johnsen

 

Absolutely, I wish that I had something to say about my treatment, that I was treated like a customer. Not something there is a pain in their ass.

[Guest guest]

Have you been over there in Britain, and so.....what do you think about it.KennDen 14/03/2008 kl. 17.48 skrev Lynn Ward:At 03:01 AM 3/14/2008, you wrote:No, I'm in the U.S. My sister lives over there - has for more than 30 years now. Is married to a Brit. She's a nurse and a midwife.LynnI rarely need to see a Dr but can get in easily ............. Are you in UK Lynn? Best, Jane- Lynn Ward Friday, March 14, 2008 12:18 PMRe: Medical Insurance was// Heart Disease and Tooth LossAt 06:47 PM 3/13/2008, you wrote:Wow - that's fantastic....am practically on my way over there now...*grin* I wish people who wanted to take cues from other countries insurance would take a gander at yours! Can you see a doc or whatever when you need to? Or, do you have to wait a long time like they do in England?Lynn

[Guest guest]

At least in UK there used to be a heap of really good alternative health options.

 

Jane

 

 

Kenn Johnsen

Have you been over there in Britain, and so.....what do you think about it.

 

 

Kenn

[Guest guest]

Well, "study" naturopathy - medicine, that is what I am doing here........and on the net. And I am trying a lot of different plant medicine, not that much of it do any help. However I think that I have found some herbs there can handle the bladder infection. In some cases you do need their services......like a broken back........what would you do about that.....Den 14/03/2008 kl. 22.05 skrev Jane MacRoss:You probably are a pain in their asses lol. Why not study naturopathy formally so you don't need their services! Kenn Johnsen Absolutely, I wish that I had something to say about my treatment, that I was treated like a customer. Not something there is a pain in their ass.

[Guest guest]

you been reading up on the UK regardng Homeopathy? arghhhhhh NOT GOOD

 

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Jane MacRoss

Saturday, March 15, 2008 8:35 AM

Re: Medical Insurance was// Heart Disease and Tooth Loss

 

At least in UK there used to be a heap of really good alternative health options.

 

Jane

 

 

Kenn Johnsen

Have you been over there in Britain, and so......what do you think about it.

 

Kenn

 

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[Guest guest]

At 06:31 PM 3/14/2008, you wrote:

Cranberry juice is great for a bladder infection..has worked several

times for me.

Lynn

Well, " study "

naturopathy - medicine, that is what I am doing here........and on the

net. And I am trying a lot of different plant medicine, not that much of

it do any help. However I think that I have found some herbs there can

handle the bladder infection. In some cases you do need their

services......like a broken back........what would you do about

that.....

 

Den 14/03/2008 kl. 22.05 skrev Jane MacRoss:

 

You probably are a pain in their

asses lol. Why not study naturopathy formally so you don't need

their services!

 

 

 

Kenn Johnsen

 

[Guest guest]

I have tried it, it is not strong enough for me, I think that I would have to drink several gallon a day.Den 15/03/2008 kl. 01.20 skrev Lynn Ward:At 06:31 PM 3/14/2008, you wrote:Cranberry juice is great for a bladder infection..has worked several times for me.LynnWell, "study" naturopathy - medicine, that is what I am doing here........and on the net. And I am trying a lot of different plant medicine, not that much of it do any help. However I think that I have found some herbs there can handle the bladder infection. In some cases you do need their services......like a broken back........what would you do about that.....Den 14/03/2008 kl. 22.05 skrev Jane MacRoss:You probably are a pain in their asses lol. Why not study naturopathy formally so you don't need their services! Kenn Johnsen

[Guest guest]

At 08:47 PM 3/14/2008, you wrote:

Oh...do you get the cranberry juice cocktail or the pure cranberry juice?

Well,, pure in the sense that it's just cranberries and water....Although

it is a bit tart. But, I like tart things....Can also add a bit of

sweetener if it's too tart. Stevia is wonderful, if you haven't used it

yet. Be careful, though, a little goes a very long way. You can

also easily make it from fresh cranberries. Don't know if frozen would

work, but I would think so. btw, how do you know it's not strong enough?

Just curious...

Lynn

I have tried it, it is not

strong enough for me, I think that I would have to drink several gallon a

day.

 

At 06:31 PM 3/14/2008, you

wrote:

Cranberry juice is great for a bladder infection..has worked several

times for me.

Lynn

Well, " study "

naturopathy - medicine, that is what I am doing here........and on the

net. And I am trying a lot of different plant medicine, not that much of

it do any help. However I think that I have found some herbs there can

handle the bladder infection. In some cases you do need their

services......like a broken back........what would you do about

that.....

 

Den 14/03/2008 kl. 22.05 skrev Jane MacRoss:

 

You probably are a pain in their asses

lol. Why not study naturopathy formally so you don't need their

services!

 

 

Kenn Johnsen