Guest guest Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Pulse taking is a practiced art which is open to anyone, and incredibly, does not require any inborn aptitude or special powers. On another tack, one keeps running into this question, is the Hara a better arbiter of illness than the pulse profile. For one thing pulses are ever changing, running in wax and wane on the 3 x 6 positions on each wrist, which in practice is really just 3 into 2. The Hara remains steady, is manifest enough to give a rough reading, which can be refined with more detailed palpation. Dr. Holmes Keikobad CEUS on DVD www.acu-free.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Dr Holmes, Both are good. It is fascinating to treat according to the pulse and then recheck the abdomen or vice versa, treat according to the abdomen and feel that the pulse has changed. Apart from being good for the Px, it is also lots of fun to see these changes take place right there in clinic. A practitioner then knows the effectiveness of the treatment and can also teach themselves more about the pulse if good on the abdomen or more about the abdomen if good on the pulse. Both are like widows, allowing different views of the Px. Best wishes, Dr. Holmes Keikobad [dkaikobad] Saturday, 5 March 2005 2:39 AM Chinese Medicine Re: Pulses and psychic? - Pulse Vs the Hara Pulse taking is a practiced art which is open to anyone, and incredibly, does not require any inborn aptitude or special powers. On another tack, one keeps running into this question, is the Hara a better arbiter of illness than the pulse profile. For one thing pulses are ever changing, running in wax and wane on the 3 x 6 positions on each wrist, which in practice is really just 3 into 2. The Hara remains steady, is manifest enough to give a rough reading, which can be refined with more detailed palpation. Dr. Holmes Keikobad CEUS on DVD www.acu-free.com http://babel.altavista.com/ and adjust accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2005 Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 Dr.K : Now you have me puzzled. I have not heard of the " hara " . Could you send me some info on it or a website to learn more? Thank you : Bill On another tack, one keeps running into this question, is the Hara a better arbiter of illness than the pulse profile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 Hara is the tummy, anterior abdominal wall. Extends from costal margin to inguinal ligament and to the sides to a vertical line from armpit to ilium. There are many thoughts as to what represents what; I have a homegrown version which works for me. I like the simplistic, easier than falling off the chair approach: On mid line from where sternum ends to the pubis: Above navel - above downwards: HT ST SP Below navel - above downwards: SP K BL Around navel - 1 cm or so - K Around navel again - .5 cm or so outside K - SP To the sides of the mid line: R of navel - LU L of navel - LV Getting the 5 E bearings: LV at L of mid line or navel HT at mid line topmost position SP at circle around navel about 1.5 cm ST at middle of line above navel K at circle around navel about 1 cm or so BL at bottom of mid line abutting the pubis GB huh? On chest wall, 2 to 3 inches below and to the R of R nipple SI? 3 to 4 cun below navel LI on horizontal line at navel at 2 inches either side In practice look for it a cun below text location Signs: hollowed, full, pencil like feel, indurated, discolored, hot, cold, freezing. Commonest signs: pencil at ST hollow below navel - K weakness hollow just above pubis - UB Kiiko's signs: 2 cun below and 2 cun to the lateral on L of navel - LV stagnation, Oketsu 2 cun below and 2 cun to the lateral on R of navel - LU stagnation, Oketsu Discoloration: small very red macules abdomen above navel below costal margin - surefire LV brown spots - trapped Heat white spots - LU Empty All above is Hara diagnosis, somewhat off the cuff, but very workable in clinic. Dr. Holmes WILLIAM ACUPUNCT wrote: > > Dr.K : Now you have me puzzled. I have not heard of the " hara " . Could > you send me some info on it or a website to learn more? Thank you : Bill > > > > On another tack, one keeps running into this question, is the Hara a > better arbiter of illness than the > pulse profile. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 Chinese Medicine , WILLIAM ACUPUNCT <aqupoint@r...> wrote: > > Dr.K : Now you have me puzzled. I have not heard of the " hara " . Could you send me some info on it or a website to learn more? Thank you : Bill > > http://jabinet.net/fukusho.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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