building a healthy practice (was- Acupuncture Licensing Regulation)

[Guest guest]

I have been in practice for 37 years.

I am almost 60

I moved to Denver Colorado when it was just a cowboy

town in 1974 and set up a practice.

I came to Colorado with just the cloths on my back and

a back pack.

At that time Acupuncture was not legal here. No one

had even heard of it here.

I set up a hidden back room practice behind my Kung Fu

studio and it flourished.

Even with not being able to advertise my practice

grew.

Even with a bad economy here in Colorado my practice

grew. Even with a total red neck mentality among the

populace my practice grew.

 

I am not unique in doing this.

 

Treat each patient rich or poor, of good reputation or

of ill repute, .... one at a time with no concern for

money or fame and thus will your reputation and your

practice grow , your fortune be assured, and your

conscience remain intact.

Oath of the Chinese Physician

 

Doc Rosen

 

 

I am only one; but still I am one.

I cannot do everything, but still I can do something;

I will not refuse to do the something I can do.

- Helen Keller

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Doc wrote:

> I have been in practice for 37 years. I am almost 60 I moved to

> Denver Colorado when it was just a cowboy town in 1974 and set up a

> practice. I came to Colorado with just the cloths on my back and a

> back pack. At that time Acupuncture was not legal here.

 

Hi Doc!

 

Thank you! This is what you have to do nowadays to succeed, do something

illegal. Maybe do a lot of things illegal.

 

Not just in TCM, either, but in *any* field of endeavor. This is the

problem undermining our whole society - it is impossible to " succeed "

unless you break the law.

 

Regards,

 

Pete

[Guest guest]

--- Pete Theisen <petet wrote:

 

Doc wrote:

> I have been in practice for 37 years. I am almost 60

I moved to

> Denver Colorado when it was just a cowboy town in

1974 and set up a

> practice. I came to Colorado with just the cloths on

my back and a

> back pack. At that time Acupuncture was not legal

here.

 

Hi Doc!

 

Thank you! This is what you have to do nowadays to

succeed, do something

illegal. Maybe do a lot of things illegal.

 

Not just in TCM, either, but in *any* field of

endeavor. This is the

problem undermining our whole society - it is

impossible to " succeed "

unless you break the law.

 

Regards,

 

Pete

Pete,

You seem to turn any positive thought on this list

about your situation to negative and miss my point

rather completely.

 

Yes we are a nation with many unjust laws and courts

that enforce these laws in a prejudiced way.

Yes we are a nation where the biggest crooks seem to

be in the highest posts and positions of power.

Yes we are the only nation in the UN whose government

says that Health Care is not a basic Human Right.

 

and

 

Yes

In spite of all of this;

If you put positive energies into your practice and do

so with integrity while helping your patients one at a

time to the best of your ability, you will most likely

succeed on a financial level as well as on every other

level.

 

Doc

 

I am only one; but still I am one.

I cannot do everything, but still I can do something;

I will not refuse to do the something I can do.

- Helen Keller

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I believe that acupuncturists follow the 80/20 rule. 20 percent of

practitioners see 80 percent of those seeking acupuncture. Being in the

top 20 percent requires lots of hard work and time building a practice.

Those easily discouraged are doomed from the start. Like all

businesses, those that keep their vision and passion in the face of

rejection and disappointment will succeed in time. When I first looked

at locations to set up my practice I was really concerned about

" competition " . Now that I am in practice, I realize that there isn't

any competition. Nobody treats the same way I do, and every patitent

that comes to see me I had to go out there and earn. When a potential

patient ends up going to another acupuncturist in my area, I wish them

all the best and genuinely hope they get what they need from that other

practitioner. My goal is the health and wellbeing of not just my

patients but of humainty.

 

I'm a fairly new practitioner, but I had a positive cash flow in my own

startup clinic my first month in practice with no advertizing. I am

very passionate about what I do and I boldly put myself out there. I

have the attitude that I'm on a mission from God here. Me doing this

medicine isn't about me, but about being an insterment of something much

bigger than myself and to be of service to people in a way that I feel

called to be. People are naturally attracted to passion I think. I

wouldn't spend my hard earned money on someones services if they didn't

carry a sense of passion about what they did. Our attitude is public

information. It shows through into everything we do and everyone we

meet. When our attitude stinks that is what will show up in our world.

Like attracks like.

 

Those that are discouraged and let obsticals stop them need to rekindle

their passion and tonify their liver and gall bladder Qi I think. I

feel that seminars that address personal development are as important,

if not more so, than those that heighten our acupuncture and herbal

skills. I know many very, very talented practitioners that are not

doing well because they lack the personal skills to interact with other

people in a healthy and positive way. Learning more skills in

acupuncture won't help as much as working through the personal blocks in

our life and getting that " fire in the belly " about what we do.

 

Christopher Vedeler L.Ac., C.Ht.

Oasis Acupuncture

http://www.oasisacupuncture.com

8233 N. Via Paseo del Norte

Suite D-35

Scottsdale, AZ 85258

Phone: (480) 991-3650

Fax: (480) 247-4472

 

 

Chinese Medicine

Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of Doc

Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:48 PM

Chinese Medicine

Re: building a healthy practice (was- Acupuncture

Licensing Regulation)

 

 

 

--- Pete Theisen <petet wrote:

 

Doc wrote:

> I have been in practice for 37 years. I am almost 60

I moved to

> Denver Colorado when it was just a cowboy town in

1974 and set up a

> practice. I came to Colorado with just the cloths on

my back and a

> back pack. At that time Acupuncture was not legal

here.

 

Hi Doc!

 

Thank you! This is what you have to do nowadays to

succeed, do something

illegal. Maybe do a lot of things illegal.

 

Not just in TCM, either, but in *any* field of

endeavor. This is the

problem undermining our whole society - it is

impossible to " succeed "

unless you break the law.

 

Regards,

 

Pete

Pete,

You seem to turn any positive thought on this list

about your situation to negative and miss my point

rather completely.

 

Yes we are a nation with many unjust laws and courts

that enforce these laws in a prejudiced way.

Yes we are a nation where the biggest crooks seem to

be in the highest posts and positions of power.

Yes we are the only nation in the UN whose government

says that Health Care is not a basic Human Right.

 

and

 

Yes

In spite of all of this;

If you put positive energies into your practice and do

so with integrity while helping your patients one at a

time to the best of your ability, you will most likely

succeed on a financial level as well as on every other

level.

 

Doc

 

I am only one; but still I am one.

I cannot do everything, but still I can do something;

I will not refuse to do the something I can do.

- Helen Keller

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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YES!

--- " Christopher Vedeler L.Ac. "

<ckvedeler wrote:

 

 

 

I believe that acupuncturists follow the 80/20 rule.

20 percent of

practitioners see 80 percent of those seeking

acupuncture. Being in the

top 20 percent requires lots of hard work and time

building a practice.

Those easily discouraged are doomed from the start.

Like all

businesses, those that keep their vision and passion

in the face of

rejection and disappointment will succeed in time.

When I first looked

at locations to set up my practice I was really

concerned about

" competition " . Now that I am in practice, I realize

that there isn't

any competition. Nobody treats the same way I do, and

every patitent

that comes to see me I had to go out there and earn.

When a potential

patient ends up going to another acupuncturist in my

area, I wish them

all the best and genuinely hope they get what they

need from that other

practitioner. My goal is the health and wellbeing of

not just my

patients but of humainty.

 

I'm a fairly new practitioner, but I had a positive

cash flow in my own

startup clinic my first month in practice with no

advertizing. I am

very passionate about what I do and I boldly put

myself out there. I

have the attitude that I'm on a mission from God here.

Me doing this

medicine isn't about me, but about being an insterment

of something much

bigger than myself and to be of service to people in a

way that I feel

called to be. People are naturally attracted to

passion I think. I

wouldn't spend my hard earned money on someones

services if they didn't

carry a sense of passion about what they did. Our

attitude is public

information. It shows through into everything we do

and everyone we

meet. When our attitude stinks that is what will show

up in our world.

Like attracks like.

 

Those that are discouraged and let obsticals stop them

need to rekindle

their passion and tonify their liver and gall bladder

Qi I think. I

feel that seminars that address personal development

are as important,

if not more so, than those that heighten our

acupuncture and herbal

skills. I know many very, very talented practitioners

that are not

doing well because they lack the personal skills to

interact with other

people in a healthy and positive way. Learning more

skills in

acupuncture won't help as much as working through the

personal blocks in

our life and getting that " fire in the belly " about

what we do.

 

Christopher Vedeler L.Ac., C.Ht.

Oasis Acupuncture

http://www.oasisacupuncture.com

8233 N. Via Paseo del Norte

Suite D-35

Scottsdale, AZ 85258

Phone: (480) 991-3650

Fax: (480) 247-4472

 

 

Chinese Medicine

Chinese Medicine

On Behalf Of Doc

Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:48 PM

Chinese Medicine

Re: building a healthy practice (was-

Acupuncture

Licensing Regulation)

 

 

 

--- Pete Theisen <petet wrote:

 

Doc wrote:

> I have been in practice for 37 years. I am almost 60

I moved to

> Denver Colorado when it was just a cowboy town in

1974 and set up a

> practice. I came to Colorado with just the cloths on

my back and a

> back pack. At that time Acupuncture was not legal

here.

 

Hi Doc!

 

Thank you! This is what you have to do nowadays to

succeed, do something

illegal. Maybe do a lot of things illegal.

 

Not just in TCM, either, but in *any* field of

endeavor. This is the

problem undermining our whole society - it is

impossible to " succeed "

unless you break the law.

 

Regards,

 

Pete

Pete,

You seem to turn any positive thought on this list

about your situation to negative and miss my point

rather completely.

 

Yes we are a nation with many unjust laws and courts

that enforce these laws in a prejudiced way.

Yes we are a nation where the biggest crooks seem to

be in the highest posts and positions of power.

Yes we are the only nation in the UN whose government

says that Health Care is not a basic Human Right.

 

and

 

Yes

In spite of all of this;

If you put positive energies into your practice and do

so with integrity while helping your patients one at a

time to the best of your ability, you will most likely

succeed on a financial level as well as on every other

level.

 

Doc

 

I am only one; but still I am one.

I cannot do everything, but still I can do something;

I will not refuse to do the something I can do.

- Helen Keller

 

 

 

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Doc wrote:

> YES!

 

--- " Christopher Vedeler L.Ac. " <ckvedeler

> wrote:

 

<snip>

 

>> I have the attitude that I'm on a mission from God here.

 

<snip>

 

>>> At that time Acupuncture was not legal here.

 

Hi Doc, Chris!

 

OK, one of you is on a mission from God and the other got established by

breaking the law. Obviously either of these will work, and evidently

work well, but I can't see myself in either role.

 

So now I get to be a Singer-type super sales flack, a marry-a-rich-woman

gigolo, a " mission from God " fanatic, a " not legal " crook or a failure.

It's nice to know what the choices are at least.

 

Regards,

 

Pete

[Guest guest]

Pete you missed my point. If you are passionate about what you do,

obstacles do not discourage. I really wish you all the best and hope

that you find a way to be true to yourself and discover your passion.

You don't need to be like me or Doc, or anyone but yourself. Figure out

why you got into this medicine in the first place. Reconnect with it

and cultivate it if you feel that you are on the right path.

 

Peace.

 

Christopher Vedeler L.Ac., C.Ht.

Oasis Acupuncture

http://www.oasisacupuncture.com

8233 N. Via Paseo del Norte

Suite D-35

Scottsdale, AZ 85258

Phone: (480) 991-3650

Fax: (480) 247-4472

 

 

Chinese Medicine

Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of Pete

Theisen

Wednesday, April 27, 2005 4:04 PM

Chinese Medicine

Re: building a healthy practice (was- Acupuncture

Licensing Regulation)

 

 

Doc wrote:

> YES!

 

--- " Christopher Vedeler L.Ac. " <ckvedeler

> wrote:

 

<snip>

 

>> I have the attitude that I'm on a mission from God here.

 

<snip>

 

>>> At that time Acupuncture was not legal here.

 

Hi Doc, Chris!

 

OK, one of you is on a mission from God and the other got established by

breaking the law. Obviously either of these will work, and evidently

work well, but I can't see myself in either role.

 

So now I get to be a Singer-type super sales flack, a marry-a-rich-woman

gigolo, a " mission from God " fanatic, a " not legal " crook or a failure.

It's nice to know what the choices are at least.

 

Regards,

 

Pete

 

 

 

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