Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Ihave a patient with burning feet. She had warts removed some time ago with a spray mechanism that freezes and removes warts. I had this myself many years ago and I can only compare it to childbirth. The same crazy dermatologist treated her. Anyway - she calls it neuropathy, burning in her feet, tingling. Her tongue is damp, particularly in SP ST area, some heat showing on tongue and rapid pulse. She strikes me as an excess person. She has a lot of health issues, main one from feet is anxiety. I gave her a health questionnarie that fits her symtoms into patterns and she is falling in all of them. A lot of earth and kidney issues. I have cleared blocks, cleared heat and also done a Dr. Tan treatmetn on her hands to mirror feet - didn't leave them in as long as I would like. She still reported burning on the phone. Any treatment ideas folks. She comes in tomorrow. Thanks, Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Anne, Try Gua Sha on bottom of feet. Maria Kuriloff Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of accumom54 Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:59 AM Chinese Medicine Burning Feet Ihave a patient with burning feet. She had warts removed some time ago with a spray mechanism that freezes and removes warts. I had this myself many years ago and I can only compare it to childbirth. The same crazy dermatologist treated her. Anyway - she calls it neuropathy, burning in her feet, tingling. Her tongue is damp, particularly in SP ST area, some heat showing on tongue and rapid pulse. She strikes me as an excess person. She has a lot of health issues, main one from feet is anxiety. I gave her a health questionnarie that fits her symtoms into patterns and she is falling in all of them. A lot of earth and kidney issues. I have cleared blocks, cleared heat and also done a Dr. Tan treatmetn on her hands to mirror feet - didn't leave them in as long as I would like. She still reported burning on the phone. Any treatment ideas folks. She comes in tomorrow. Thanks, Anne http://babel.altavista.com/ and adjust accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Hi Anne, Lower extremity neuropathy is most always a sign of poor circulation in the lower aspect of the body. In addition to constitutional points, techniques that stimulate circulation in the lower extremities ares very helpful. Points like Liv 3 Sp6, St 36 or 37 help. I also often find blockage in the Belt channel so add points like CV 4 & 5 and St 28 & 27. You will likely find that the lower down the leg, the less sensitive your patient is to needling. It is important your patient feels the needle stimulation. An important sign of improvement is when your patient gets more and more sensitive to the needling. Once this happens, symptoms will subside. This is a chromic problem that will likely take several treatments over some weeks, depending on how severe the numbness is. I also have my patients soak their feet in warm water in the evening and then stimulate them by rubbing their feet on a dry towel or carpet. I also encourage a regular walking routine - everything is geared to stimulating circulation of the lower extremities. Good luck! - Matthew Bauer - accumom54 Chinese Medicine Thursday, April 28, 2005 6:59 AM Burning Feet Ihave a patient with burning feet. She had warts removed some time ago with a spray mechanism that freezes and removes warts. I had this myself many years ago and I can only compare it to childbirth. The same crazy dermatologist treated her. Anyway - she calls it neuropathy, burning in her feet, tingling. Her tongue is damp, particularly in SP ST area, some heat showing on tongue and rapid pulse. She strikes me as an excess person. She has a lot of health issues, main one from feet is anxiety. I gave her a health questionnarie that fits her symtoms into patterns and she is falling in all of them. A lot of earth and kidney issues. I have cleared blocks, cleared heat and also done a Dr. Tan treatmetn on her hands to mirror feet - didn't leave them in as long as I would like. She still reported burning on the phone. Any treatment ideas folks. She comes in tomorrow. Thanks, Anne http://babel.altavista.com/ and adjust accordingly. If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss TCM with other academics, click on this link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 I didn't note any fissures - will look again next time Her color is green and yellow (maybe some black) don't know about capillaries She cancelled for tomorrow. Overwhelmed by life. When I see her will look for these. Thanks, Anne dkakobad wrote: > is there a marked fissure on tongue? > smaller fissures on any one elemental area? > > really important: > color changes in face? > any yellow showing up? > any green blue? > > any scleral capillaries? > at what quadrant? > color? > > this is already a clear pattern, but needs supportive evidence. > > Holmes > > > accumom54 wrote: > > > Ihave a patient with burning feet. She had warts removed some time > > ago with a spray mechanism that freezes and removes warts. I had this > > myself many years ago and I can only compare it to childbirth. The > > same crazy dermatologist treated her. > > > > Anyway - she calls it neuropathy, burning in her feet, tingling. > > > > Her tongue is damp, particularly in SP ST area, some heat showing on > > tongue and rapid pulse. > > > > She strikes me as an excess person. She has a lot of health issues, > > main one from feet is anxiety. I gave her a health questionnarie that > > fits her symtoms into patterns and she is falling in all of them. A > > lot of earth and kidney issues. > > > > I have cleared blocks, cleared heat and also done a Dr. Tan treatmetn > > on her hands to mirror feet - didn't leave them in as long as I would > > like. She still reported burning on the phone. > > > > Any treatment ideas folks. She comes in tomorrow. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Anne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://babel.altavista.com/ > > > > > > and > > adjust accordingly. > > > > Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the > > group requires prior permission from the author. > > > > If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss TCM with other > > academics, > > > > > > > > ------ > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 she is already largely settled into a 5 E pattern, some integral information is missing. 1. < Her color is green and yellow (maybe some black) > even before you see her, take a guess where these should be found. if these are in legitimate sectors, this is a certain 5 E Design, and all is well and she will recover. if these are in areas ruled by other sectors, this is a 5 E Design, which untreated, has settled into another pattern. can you elaborate sector specific colors as you recollect these? 2. < warts removed some time > what element would you place warts in? 3. < with a spray mechanism that freezes and removes warts > what element would you place this spray in? 4. < burning in her feet, tingling > what element would you place " feet " and " tingling " in? you wrote: I gave her a health questionnarie that fits her symtoms into patterns and she is falling in all of them do something quickly, this is not good. not that she is in all these patterns, but that she is at a point where, unless a quick and accurate diagnosis happens, she will lside into the situation of an acupunctural Valhalla. Holmes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 How about trying homeopathy. My mother had burning feet she appears to have cured. dr. mohiuddin.d.v.m., --- Anne Crowley <blazing.valley wrote: > I didn't note any fissures - will look again next > time > Her color is green and yellow (maybe some black) > don't know about capillaries > She cancelled for tomorrow. Overwhelmed by life. > When I see her will > look for these. > Thanks, > Anne > > dkakobad wrote: > > > is there a marked fissure on tongue? > > smaller fissures on any one elemental area? > > > > really important: > > color changes in face? > > any yellow showing up? > > any green blue? > > > > any scleral capillaries? > > at what quadrant? > > color? > > > > this is already a clear pattern, but needs > supportive evidence. > > > > Holmes > > > > > > accumom54 wrote: > > > > > Ihave a patient with burning feet. She had > warts removed some time > > > ago with a spray mechanism that freezes and > removes warts. I had this > > > myself many years ago and I can only compare it > to childbirth. The > > > same crazy dermatologist treated her. > > > > > > Anyway - she calls it neuropathy, burning in her > feet, tingling. > > > > > > Her tongue is damp, particularly in SP ST area, > some heat showing on > > > tongue and rapid pulse. > > > > > > She strikes me as an excess person. She has a > lot of health issues, > > > main one from feet is anxiety. I gave her a > health questionnarie that > > > fits her symtoms into patterns and she is > falling in all of them. A > > > lot of earth and kidney issues. > > > > > > I have cleared blocks, cleared heat and also > done a Dr. Tan treatmetn > > > on her hands to mirror feet - didn't leave them > in as long as I would > > > like. She still reported burning on the phone. > > > > > > Any treatment ideas folks. She comes in > tomorrow. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Anne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To translate this message, copy and paste it > into this web link page, > > > http://babel.altavista.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > adjust accordingly. > > > > > > Messages are the property of the author. Any > duplication outside the > > > group requires prior permission from the author. > > > > > > If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss > TCM with other > > > academics, > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 Thanks everyone for your responses on my patient with burning feet. I will certainly take them all into consideration for her. Hey, let's send Pat some positive energy. She is getting the flack from two different . I'm sure it was a mistake so let's practice some forgiveness, okay. Anne khaja mohiuddin wrote: > How about trying homeopathy. My mother had burning > feet she appears to have cured. > > dr. mohiuddin.d.v.m., > --- Anne Crowley <blazing.valley wrote: > > > I didn't note any fissures - will look again next > > time > > Her color is green and yellow (maybe some black) > > don't know about capillaries > > She cancelled for tomorrow. Overwhelmed by life. > > When I see her will > > look for these. > > Thanks, > > Anne > > > > dkakobad wrote: > > > > > is there a marked fissure on tongue? > > > smaller fissures on any one elemental area? > > > > > > really important: > > > color changes in face? > > > any yellow showing up? > > > any green blue? > > > > > > any scleral capillaries? > > > at what quadrant? > > > color? > > > > > > this is already a clear pattern, but needs > > supportive evidence. > > > > > > Holmes > > > > > > > > > accumom54 wrote: > > > > > > > Ihave a patient with burning feet. She had > > warts removed some time > > > > ago with a spray mechanism that freezes and > > removes warts. I had this > > > > myself many years ago and I can only compare it > > to childbirth. The > > > > same crazy dermatologist treated her. > > > > > > > > Anyway - she calls it neuropathy, burning in her > > feet, tingling. > > > > > > > > Her tongue is damp, particularly in SP ST area, > > some heat showing on > > > > tongue and rapid pulse. > > > > > > > > She strikes me as an excess person. She has a > > lot of health issues, > > > > main one from feet is anxiety. I gave her a > > health questionnarie that > > > > fits her symtoms into patterns and she is > > falling in all of them. A > > > > lot of earth and kidney issues. > > > > > > > > I have cleared blocks, cleared heat and also > > done a Dr. Tan treatmetn > > > > on her hands to mirror feet - didn't leave them > > in as long as I would > > > > like. She still reported burning on the phone. > > > > > > > > Any treatment ideas folks. She comes in > > tomorrow. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Anne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To translate this message, copy and paste it > > into this web link page, > > > > http://babel.altavista.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > adjust accordingly. > > > > > > > > Messages are the property of the author. Any > > duplication outside the > > > > group requires prior permission from the author. > > > > > > > > If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss > > TCM with other > > > > academics, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 What happened to Pat could have happened to anyone. Where is grace, where is gentle? An ill is nothing if there is no intent. And this is a co professional. Where is courtesy on that count? Holmes. Anne Crowley wrote: > Thanks everyone for your responses on my patient with burning feet. I > will certainly take them all into consideration for her. > > Hey, let's send Pat some positive energy. She is getting the flack from > two different . I'm sure it was a mistake so let's practice > some forgiveness, okay. > > Anne > > khaja mohiuddin wrote: > > > How about trying homeopathy. My mother had burning > > feet she appears to have cured. > > > > dr. mohiuddin.d.v.m., > > --- Anne Crowley <blazing.valley wrote: > > > > > I didn't note any fissures - will look again next > > > time > > > Her color is green and yellow (maybe some black) > > > don't know about capillaries > > > She cancelled for tomorrow. Overwhelmed by life. > > > When I see her will > > > look for these. > > > Thanks, > > > Anne > > > > > > dkakobad wrote: > > > > > > > is there a marked fissure on tongue? > > > > smaller fissures on any one elemental area? > > > > > > > > really important: > > > > color changes in face? > > > > any yellow showing up? > > > > any green blue? > > > > > > > > any scleral capillaries? > > > > at what quadrant? > > > > color? > > > > > > > > this is already a clear pattern, but needs > > > supportive evidence. > > > > > > > > Holmes > > > > > > > > > > > > accumom54 wrote: > > > > > > > > > Ihave a patient with burning feet. She had > > > warts removed some time > > > > > ago with a spray mechanism that freezes and > > > removes warts. I had this > > > > > myself many years ago and I can only compare it > > > to childbirth. The > > > > > same crazy dermatologist treated her. > > > > > > > > > > Anyway - she calls it neuropathy, burning in her > > > feet, tingling. > > > > > > > > > > Her tongue is damp, particularly in SP ST area, > > > some heat showing on > > > > > tongue and rapid pulse. > > > > > > > > > > She strikes me as an excess person. She has a > > > lot of health issues, > > > > > main one from feet is anxiety. I gave her a > > > health questionnarie that > > > > > fits her symtoms into patterns and she is > > > falling in all of them. A > > > > > lot of earth and kidney issues. > > > > > > > > > > I have cleared blocks, cleared heat and also > > > done a Dr. Tan treatmetn > > > > > on her hands to mirror feet - didn't leave them > > > in as long as I would > > > > > like. She still reported burning on the phone. > > > > > > > > > > Any treatment ideas folks. She comes in > > > tomorrow. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Anne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To translate this message, copy and paste it > > > into this web link page, > > > > > http://babel.altavista.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > adjust accordingly. > > > > > > > > > > Messages are the property of the author. Any > > > duplication outside the > > > > > group requires prior permission from the author. > > > > > > > > > > If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss > > > TCM with other > > > > > academics, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 update on burning feet? holmes ps homeopathy will work miracles khaja mohiuddin wrote: > How about trying homeopathy. My mother had burning > feet she appears to have cured. > > dr. mohiuddin.d.v.m., > --- Anne Crowley <blazing.valley wrote: > > > I didn't note any fissures - will look again next > > time > > Her color is green and yellow (maybe some black) > > don't know about capillaries > > She cancelled for tomorrow. Overwhelmed by life. > > When I see her will > > look for these. > > Thanks, > > Anne > > > > dkakobad wrote: > > > > > is there a marked fissure on tongue? > > > smaller fissures on any one elemental area? > > > > > > really important: > > > color changes in face? > > > any yellow showing up? > > > any green blue? > > > > > > any scleral capillaries? > > > at what quadrant? > > > color? > > > > > > this is already a clear pattern, but needs > > supportive evidence. > > > > > > Holmes > > > > > > > > > accumom54 wrote: > > > > > > > Ihave a patient with burning feet. She had > > warts removed some time > > > > ago with a spray mechanism that freezes and > > removes warts. I had this > > > > myself many years ago and I can only compare it > > to childbirth. The > > > > same crazy dermatologist treated her. > > > > > > > > Anyway - she calls it neuropathy, burning in her > > feet, tingling. > > > > > > > > Her tongue is damp, particularly in SP ST area, > > some heat showing on > > > > tongue and rapid pulse. > > > > > > > > She strikes me as an excess person. She has a > > lot of health issues, > > > > main one from feet is anxiety. I gave her a > > health questionnarie that > > > > fits her symtoms into patterns and she is > > falling in all of them. A > > > > lot of earth and kidney issues. > > > > > > > > I have cleared blocks, cleared heat and also > > done a Dr. Tan treatmetn > > > > on her hands to mirror feet - didn't leave them > > in as long as I would > > > > like. She still reported burning on the phone. > > > > > > > > Any treatment ideas folks. She comes in > > tomorrow. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Anne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To translate this message, copy and paste it > > into this web link page, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 She cancelled for today. Her cat may have to be put to sleep. She has a lot of overwheleming things but I will call her next week if she doesn't call me. Your questions I am trying to remember warts - damp - earth feet - earth tingling - wood I see an earth wood dynamic going on - liver overcontrolling earth, some anger and resentment for having to take care of everyone and also dealing with her mother possibly dying - I have also detected some metal. I know one homeopath in town - I can email him and recommend her there for a treatment. dkakobad wrote: > update on burning feet? > holmes > > ps homeopathy will work miracles > > > > khaja mohiuddin wrote: > > > How about trying homeopathy. My mother had burning > > feet she appears to have cured. > > > > dr. mohiuddin.d.v.m., > > --- Anne Crowley <blazing.valley wrote: > > > > > I didn't note any fissures - will look again next > > > time > > > Her color is green and yellow (maybe some black) > > > don't know about capillaries > > > She cancelled for tomorrow. Overwhelmed by life. > > > When I see her will > > > look for these. > > > Thanks, > > > Anne > > > > > > dkakobad wrote: > > > > > > > is there a marked fissure on tongue? > > > > smaller fissures on any one elemental area? > > > > > > > > really important: > > > > color changes in face? > > > > any yellow showing up? > > > > any green blue? > > > > > > > > any scleral capillaries? > > > > at what quadrant? > > > > color? > > > > > > > > this is already a clear pattern, but needs > > > supportive evidence. > > > > > > > > Holmes > > > > > > > > > > > > accumom54 wrote: > > > > > > > > > Ihave a patient with burning feet. She had > > > warts removed some time > > > > > ago with a spray mechanism that freezes and > > > removes warts. I had this > > > > > myself many years ago and I can only compare it > > > to childbirth. The > > > > > same crazy dermatologist treated her. > > > > > > > > > > Anyway - she calls it neuropathy, burning in her > > > feet, tingling. > > > > > > > > > > Her tongue is damp, particularly in SP ST area, > > > some heat showing on > > > > > tongue and rapid pulse. > > > > > > > > > > She strikes me as an excess person. She has a > > > lot of health issues, > > > > > main one from feet is anxiety. I gave her a > > > health questionnarie that > > > > > fits her symtoms into patterns and she is > > > falling in all of them. A > > > > > lot of earth and kidney issues. > > > > > > > > > > I have cleared blocks, cleared heat and also > > > done a Dr. Tan treatmetn > > > > > on her hands to mirror feet - didn't leave them > > > in as long as I would > > > > > like. She still reported burning on the phone. > > > > > > > > > > Any treatment ideas folks. She comes in > > > tomorrow. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Anne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To translate this message, copy and paste it > > > into this web link page, > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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