Sensitization ** Are Natural Spices Sensitizing??

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In a message dated 2/5/03 1:23:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,

butchbsi writes:

 

> Its

> a matter of dealing with the immune system and though its hard to fool

> Mama Nature, its not impossible to deceive the immune system.

>

>

 

FYI Butch - Mountain Rose herbs has some nice henna by the ounce if you want

to try that. I used to do those to girlfriends all the time. You get a nice

natural color. Pretty sure she has some dark shades. I want to try it soon

as I get rid of some colorourant I got on sale.

 

Jackie

 

 

 

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Butch,

Thank you for this post. Sensitization is an issue that is SO important

and not discussed enough. Where I hail from ( in sunny and beautiful

Hawaii) there are few distributors and none that I can tell that are

promoting safe use. Most folks I run into overuse neat use of lavender and

tea tree and I am sounding like a broken record re-educating them. I'm

curious about other folks who run into this dilemma.

Funny story, Butch.... but you really don't need to use " Just for Men "

we all know where you stand -- goatee and all.....

 

Aloha,

Su

 

 

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" Butch Owen " <butchbsi

 

Wednesday, February 05, 2003 6:23 PM

Sensitization ** Are Natural Spices Sensitizing??

 

 

> Hi y'all,

>

> When we talk about sensitizing we're almost always talking about dermal

> contact .. not ingestion or inhalation. Some natural products are known

> to be potent sensitizers .. some are occasional sensitizers and some are

> known as non-sensitizing. But even those non-sensitizing EO can cause

> some folks to become sensitized .. its a matter of luck .. bad luck!

>

> I have had blond hair (not much, but its blond) all my life .. and now

> there is no gray in it .. blonds rarely have gray hair. Howsomeever, my

> mustache and beard (I have a goatee now) have been salt and pepper since

> I was in my mid-20s .. and for the last few years the salt has increased

> while the pepper became less noticeable. I started maybe three years

> ago using Just For Men mustache, sideburn and beard dressing .. its real

> easy .. just brush it in and in five minutes the pepper is back.

>

> Well .. back in September I was using it during my weekly vain attempt

> to look younger .. and all of a sudden my face broke out like bees had

> attacked me .. burned the crap out of me too. I figured maybe it had

> already passed the expiration date cause I had purchased it during my

> last trip to the USA .. so I stopped using it as I was about to make

> another trip .. which I did two weeks later.

>

> I bought some new Just for Men .. and when I used it, the same thing

> went down. I had become SENSITIZED to that product. Now, its a matter

> of MAYBE learning what exactly I have become sensitized to .. I wrote a

> letter to the manufacturers and they have not replied yet. My thoughts

> are that they are NOT going to tell me what is in that product .. which

> is another reason I'm not in favor of Fragrance Oils .. manufacturers of

> Fragrance Oils have successfully lobbied to have their ingredients

> classified as " trade secrets. "

>

> Sensitization is not just spice oils either .. its also oils made from

> leaves, bark, seeds, roots, blossoms, gum, etc. And sensitization is

> impossible to avoid entirely .. like traffic accidents it is .. but we

> can greatly reduce the potential by avoiding those oils we know are

> known sensitizers and by not using the others (the safe ones) neat. Its

> a matter of dealing with the immune system and though its hard to fool

> Mama Nature, its not impossible to deceive the immune system.

>

> What happens in sensitization is the immune system registers a foreign

> invader .. it alerts all its soldiers that the immune defense system has

> been breached. But it RARELY reacts when this happens .. it registers

> the profile of the invader and prepares for defensive action the next

> time that invader strikes .. which might be days or weeks or months or

> even years later. But attack it will .. at some point in time .. and

> that attack will continue forever if the immune systems security system

> detects another invasion by that foreign enemy.

>

> Because its not the oil itself that's causing the reaction .. but rather

> one or maybe a combination of the chemical components of that oil, this

> creates problems that continue even if we don't use the that oil again.

> The problems will arise anytime we come into contact with ANY substance

> containing that chemical or combination of chemicals that has been duly

> registered as an enemy agent by our immune system .. and this time, it

> don't gotta be dermal application only .. it can occur when we eat foods

> that contain the enemy agents. This is likely to occur for sure cause

> don't forget that the aromatherapy industry is a small user of essential

> oils .. its the cosmetics, perfumery and FOOD industry that uses the

> lion's share.

>

> So how do we fool Mama Nature? Well .. we don't attack with brigades of

> 3,000 troops .. we slip squads of ten or so troops into the potential

> area of operations .. and this is less likely to trigger the panic and

> alarm that the immune system goes into when it registers foreign enemy

> invaders. Like .. dilute the damn oil. ;-p Also .. try to avoid using

> any essential oil .. even well-diluted .. over a wide area of skin. You

> gonna say .. what about massage? Well .. there are some risks in life

> and that's one of them .. but its more potentially dangerous to the one

> giving the massage than to the recipient because of the other danger of

> using essential oils .. frequency. That requires little discussion but

> I'll say that the more often we drive to the corner market, the more

> likely we are to have a traffic accident.

>

> Proper dilution of essential oils is critical .. and contrary to the old

> rumors in this industry about neat use of lavender and tea tree being

> safe .. they too must be diluted. There are MANY people around who have

> become sensitized to lavender and tea tree .. and sensitization is for

> life folks .. it can take you to the emergency room.

>

> Y'all keep smiling, Butch http://www.AV-AT.com

>

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Hi y'all,

 

When we talk about sensitizing we're almost always talking about dermal

contact .. not ingestion or inhalation. Some natural products are known

to be potent sensitizers .. some are occasional sensitizers and some are

known as non-sensitizing. But even those non-sensitizing EO can cause

some folks to become sensitized .. its a matter of luck .. bad luck!

 

I have had blond hair (not much, but its blond) all my life .. and now

there is no gray in it .. blonds rarely have gray hair. Howsomeever, my

mustache and beard (I have a goatee now) have been salt and pepper since

I was in my mid-20s .. and for the last few years the salt has increased

while the pepper became less noticeable. I started maybe three years

ago using Just For Men mustache, sideburn and beard dressing .. its real

easy .. just brush it in and in five minutes the pepper is back.

 

Well .. back in September I was using it during my weekly vain attempt

to look younger .. and all of a sudden my face broke out like bees had

attacked me .. burned the crap out of me too. I figured maybe it had

already passed the expiration date cause I had purchased it during my

last trip to the USA .. so I stopped using it as I was about to make

another trip .. which I did two weeks later.

 

I bought some new Just for Men .. and when I used it, the same thing

went down. I had become SENSITIZED to that product. Now, its a matter

of MAYBE learning what exactly I have become sensitized to .. I wrote a

letter to the manufacturers and they have not replied yet. My thoughts

are that they are NOT going to tell me what is in that product .. which

is another reason I'm not in favor of Fragrance Oils .. manufacturers of

Fragrance Oils have successfully lobbied to have their ingredients

classified as " trade secrets. "

 

Sensitization is not just spice oils either .. its also oils made from

leaves, bark, seeds, roots, blossoms, gum, etc. And sensitization is

impossible to avoid entirely .. like traffic accidents it is .. but we

can greatly reduce the potential by avoiding those oils we know are

known sensitizers and by not using the others (the safe ones) neat. Its

a matter of dealing with the immune system and though its hard to fool

Mama Nature, its not impossible to deceive the immune system.

 

What happens in sensitization is the immune system registers a foreign

invader .. it alerts all its soldiers that the immune defense system has

been breached. But it RARELY reacts when this happens .. it registers

the profile of the invader and prepares for defensive action the next

time that invader strikes .. which might be days or weeks or months or

even years later. But attack it will .. at some point in time .. and

that attack will continue forever if the immune systems security system

detects another invasion by that foreign enemy.

 

Because its not the oil itself that's causing the reaction .. but rather

one or maybe a combination of the chemical components of that oil, this

creates problems that continue even if we don't use the that oil again.

The problems will arise anytime we come into contact with ANY substance

containing that chemical or combination of chemicals that has been duly

registered as an enemy agent by our immune system .. and this time, it

don't gotta be dermal application only .. it can occur when we eat foods

that contain the enemy agents. This is likely to occur for sure cause

don't forget that the aromatherapy industry is a small user of essential

oils .. its the cosmetics, perfumery and FOOD industry that uses the

lion's share.

 

So how do we fool Mama Nature? Well .. we don't attack with brigades of

3,000 troops .. we slip squads of ten or so troops into the potential

area of operations .. and this is less likely to trigger the panic and

alarm that the immune system goes into when it registers foreign enemy

invaders. Like .. dilute the damn oil. ;-p Also .. try to avoid using

any essential oil .. even well-diluted .. over a wide area of skin. You

gonna say .. what about massage? Well .. there are some risks in life

and that's one of them .. but its more potentially dangerous to the one

giving the massage than to the recipient because of the other danger of

using essential oils .. frequency. That requires little discussion but

I'll say that the more often we drive to the corner market, the more

likely we are to have a traffic accident.

 

Proper dilution of essential oils is critical .. and contrary to the old

rumors in this industry about neat use of lavender and tea tree being

safe .. they too must be diluted. There are MANY people around who have

become sensitized to lavender and tea tree .. and sensitization is for

life folks .. it can take you to the emergency room.

 

Y'all keep smiling, Butch http://www.AV-AT.com

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At 08:38 AM 2/5/2003 -1000, Su-Shen wrote:

>Butch,

> Thank you for this post. Sensitization is an issue that is SO important

>and not discussed enough. Where I hail from ( in sunny and beautiful

>Hawaii) there are few distributors and none that I can tell that are

>promoting safe use. Most folks I run into overuse neat use of lavender and

>tea tree and I am sounding like a broken record re-educating them. I'm

>curious about other folks who run into this dilemma.

> Funny story, Butch.... but you really don't need to use " Just for Men "

>we all know where you stand -- goatee and all.....

>

>Aloha,

>Su

 

Aloha Su, from sunny and beautiful Miami - and let it be known we have the

same problem here. There is one AT 'guru' here in town, and he advocates

neat use of oils. He teaches classes at a local community college, and is

working with a local university on AT research.

 

Other than that, the local New Age magazines carry ads from either his

students who have now opened a business, or YLOer's. It's very

discouraging, and like you, I reeducate folks all the time, whenever I canhttp://member.newsguy.com/~herblady

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