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In a message dated 9/1/2003 7:19:24 PM Pacific Standard Time,

chrisziggy writes:

 

> Handcrafted Soap Makers

> Guild, etc ... and how much benefit you feel you get from it. Would you

> recommend joining to others?

>

 

Oooooh there's a bunch on here from the Texas Soapmakers... Vickie Swaim is

one... I KNOW there are a couple of others here

 

Oh and Vickie, I've been a rude pig and owe you an email... tomorrow I

PROMISE! ;-)

 

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I was wondering if anyone here belongs to any toiletry organizations,

such as the Handmade Beauty Network, or the Handcrafted Soap Makers

Guild, etc ... and how much benefit you feel you get from it. Would you

recommend joining to others?

 

I hope everyone had a nice weekend!

 

*Smile*

Chris (list mom)

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" chrisziggy " <chrisziggy

Toiletry Organizations

 

I was wondering if anyone here belongs to any toiletry organizations,

such as the Handmade Beauty Network, or the Handcrafted Soap Makers

Guild, etc ... and how much benefit you feel you get from it. Would you

recommend joining to others?

 

I have belonged to the HSMG since last October and will not be renewing

my membership. By all means join us with the Texas group (TXSA), great

value for small investment. Margie

 

 

 

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I belong to the Handcrafted Soap Maker Guild. They are having some

difficulties and have been since I have been a member, but I don't

believe in dropping out when the going gets tough, so I renewed my

membership in their guild. I am getting to be more active in it and I

have kudos to those who take the time and effort to help with the

conferences. I went to the last one in Tucson and it was great. I am

looking forward to the one in Dallas in March. I think there is a

wealth of good information in any good guild, but sometimes it is

difficult to find...hmmm more info that anyone wanted to know perhaps.

Cindy Chandler

 

Blessed are those who can laugh at themselves for they shall never cease

to be amused...Anon

coming soon: http://www.smoothscentsations.net

 

 

 

hillcountryhaiku [hillcountryhaiku]

Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:05 AM

 

re: Toiletry Organizations

 

" chrisziggy " <chrisziggy

Toiletry Organizations

 

I was wondering if anyone here belongs to any toiletry organizations,

such as the Handmade Beauty Network, or the Handcrafted Soap Makers

Guild, etc ... and how much benefit you feel you get from it. Would you

recommend joining to others?

 

I have belonged to the HSMG since last October and will not be

renewing

my membership. By all means join us with the Texas group (TXSA),

great

value for small investment. Margie

 

 

 

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Chris-

 

As you know, Graham and I are here in Tucson, and we thought about going

to the HSMG conference last year, but the cost of tickets was

OUTRAGEOUS! And I thought NAHA was bad, but these were over $500!

Well, we did go over one afternoon to see the trade show part, and I can

tell you, if I had paid for that, I would have been a bit ticked if one

room of maybe 10 vendors was the whole thing!

 

We also talked to one of the vendors/presenters for quite a while, she

is someone we know well, and I have had private email conversations from

someone else who was higher up in the guild... And all I can say, is

that on the strength of those two conversations, I wouldn't want to

waste my money on membership. Again, the HSMG make the recent events in

NAHA look like child's play.

 

Lynda (off to the Farmer's Market to sell soap)

 

cindy45 wrote:

> I belong to the Handcrafted Soap Maker Guild. They are having some

> difficulties and have been since I have been a member, but I don't

> believe in dropping out when the going gets tough, so I renewed my

> membership in their guild. I am getting to be more active in it and I

> have kudos to those who take the time and effort to help with the

> conferences. I went to the last one in Tucson and it was great. I am

> looking forward to the one in Dallas in March. I think there is a

> wealth of good information in any good guild, but sometimes it is

> difficult to find...hmmm more info that anyone wanted to know perhaps.

> Cindy Chandler

>

> Blessed are those who can laugh at themselves for they shall never cease

> to be amused...Anon

> coming soon: http://www.smoothscentsations.net

>

>

>

> hillcountryhaiku [hillcountryhaiku]

> Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:05 AM

>

> re: Toiletry Organizations

>

> " chrisziggy " <chrisziggy

> Toiletry Organizations

>

> I was wondering if anyone here belongs to any toiletry organizations,

> such as the Handmade Beauty Network, or the Handcrafted Soap Makers

> Guild, etc ... and how much benefit you feel you get from it. Would you

> recommend joining to others?

>

> I have belonged to the HSMG since last October and will not be

> renewing

> my membership. By all means join us with the Texas group (TXSA),

> great

> value for small investment. Margie

>

>

>

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I agree with you, Linda about the price being way too high, (however, it

was 265.00 for attendees, not vendors). There were far too few vendors,

and that is what we are working on for this next year, to get the price

more in line, and try to get more vendors. Unfortunately, some of the

vendors that were there last year were not there full time, and that was

not good either. There are growing pains that I hope will be able to be

resolved. Every organization has its problems, some more than their

fair share, but hopefully, that will be able to be resolved. Cindy

 

Blessed are those who can laugh at themselves for they shall never cease

to be amused...Anon

coming soon: http://www.smoothscentsations.net

 

 

 

Chris-

 

As you know, Graham and I are here in Tucson, and we thought about going

 

to the HSMG conference last year, but the cost of tickets was

OUTRAGEOUS! And I thought NAHA was bad, but these were over $500!

Well, we did go over one afternoon to see the trade show part, and I can

 

tell you, if I had paid for that, I would have been a bit ticked if one

room of maybe 10 vendors was the whole thing!

 

We also talked to one of the vendors/presenters for quite a while, she

is someone we know well, and I have had private email conversations from

 

someone else who was higher up in the guild... And all I can say, is

that on the strength of those two conversations, I wouldn't want to

waste my money on membership. Again, the HSMG make the recent events in

 

NAHA look like child's play.

 

Lynda (off to the Farmer's Market to sell soap)

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Thanks Linda for your comments. Yes, this past year was not the best

that I believe it could have been. The conference went for 1/2 day on

Sunday, so I believe they didn't plan on vendors setting up past that.

I am aware of the finger pointing of corruption in the group, and I am

sincerely hoping that we can take care of that. Until that time, I'll

just do my best to provide help until I can't stand it anymore myself.

Take Care Cindy

 

Blessed are those who can laugh at themselves for they shall never cease

to be amused...Anon

coming soon: http://www.smoothscentsations.net

 

 

 

Lynda Sorenson [lynda]

Monday, September 08, 2003 9:10 AM

 

Re: re: Toiletry Organizations

 

Cindy-

 

 

 

cindy45 wrote:

 

> I agree with you, Linda about the price being way too high, (however,

it

> was 265.00 for attendees, not vendors).

 

Yes, I meant it would have been over 500 for the two of us to attend.

Don't have any idea about the vendors, as that wasn't something I was

checking into.

 

There were far too few vendors,

> and that is what we are working on for this next year, to get the

price

> more in line, and try to get more vendors. Unfortunately, some of the

> vendors that were there last year were not there full time, and that

was

> not good either.

 

One of the vendors told us that the room where the vendors were located

this past year was booked at mid-day Sunday for a wedding! So they had

to pack everything up mid-day, didn't even get the full day to sell

their product.

 

There are growing pains that I hope will be able to be

> resolved. Every organization has its problems, some more than their

> fair share, but hopefully, that will be able to be resolved.

 

I hope so for their sake. In the meantime, between them and NAHA, I

have heard a lot of tales of mismanagement and corruption that make me

want to avaid such organizations like the plague!

 

 

Best wishes-

Lynda

 

 

 

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Cindy-

 

 

 

cindy45 wrote:

 

> I agree with you, Linda about the price being way too high, (however, it

> was 265.00 for attendees, not vendors).

 

Yes, I meant it would have been over 500 for the two of us to attend.

Don't have any idea about the vendors, as that wasn't something I was

checking into.

 

There were far too few vendors,

> and that is what we are working on for this next year, to get the price

> more in line, and try to get more vendors. Unfortunately, some of the

> vendors that were there last year were not there full time, and that was

> not good either.

 

One of the vendors told us that the room where the vendors were located

this past year was booked at mid-day Sunday for a wedding! So they had

to pack everything up mid-day, didn't even get the full day to sell

their product.

 

There are growing pains that I hope will be able to be

> resolved. Every organization has its problems, some more than their

> fair share, but hopefully, that will be able to be resolved.

 

I hope so for their sake. In the meantime, between them and NAHA, I

have heard a lot of tales of mismanagement and corruption that make me

want to avaid such organizations like the plague!

 

 

Best wishes-

Lynda

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