Guest guest Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 Well, I know this is not my 'fight', but I like what Jen has and had to say. MSM is NOT the 3rd most important element next to air and water. Air is not a mineral as I recall and water is animal, vegetable and mineral. [we played 20 questions a LOT when I was a kid and a 'well' was the funnest] {most fun for those who want it correctly} ) msm is a derivative of dmso. Dr. Jacob ran into the politics of it all back when and couldn't get a patent on it, so he developed msm. Which is from tree wood. Has a ton of lignans in it. For those who do scrapbooking, 'lignan free' means no acids. The reason msm was developed was the patent thing and also to take out the 'objectionable to some' smell of garlic that would come thru the breath when it was applied wherever. Mostly it was the patent deal. If a company can isolate some particular part of a plant, they can patent it and try to steal money from other peoples. Case in point, the USA people trying to patent neem when it's been used for hundreds of thousands of years in India. So the good ole boys isolate something from it and call it 'theirs'. msm is destroyed by cooking, so the 'small' amt found in most foods is gone by the time we eat it. eggs, nuts, milk. and I love Jen's comment about horses eating all that grass. I see there are more thinking people on this list than are on many other lists. I'm glad. msm is not a cure all, and you Russ, did not cure *anyone*. Unless of course, you are a medical doctor and can back up that claim to suit the FDA. Or maybe you are God? And don't get your panties in knot because people think for themselves and don't take everyone's word for 'it'. Lymph massage is lightly stroking the skin and if you get a massage you are getting lymph massage. Excercise of any form is good for the body as it moves the lymph around, as the lymph cannot move on its' own, but needs to be pushed. So *any* movement, rebounders, bikes, throwing the ball for the dog, washing dishes, going to the bathroom is gonna help. pushing yourself around in a wheelchair is gonna help. There are no cure-alls, if there were, no one would be sick. And that's doubly true for dmso, msm, seabuckthorn, lavender eo, and whatever else I can't think of right now. Everything probably helps many people a lot. Because we are so stinking deficient in so many things, ANYthing would be helpful. but honey, whenever you shove something down someone's throat and they start gagging on it, it's a good idea to back off and see if they need help in swallowing it [more gentle info] or they know it's something they can't swallow because they may have more info than you. And just because a person reads something, doesn't make them an expert. Years of experience along with book knowledge, now, in my book that makes someone an expert. [expert= a little drip under pressure] And there are tons of self made experts around, but they aren't worth their salt. And there's always new data coming out about things. And nothing is 'valuable' unless it is to the person reading/keeping/eating/doing it. I'm workin my way to becoming an expert on seabuckthorn seed oil and lesser on berry, but it's gonna take a while. Still, I know a heck of a lot more than the better than average joe on it, and I'm still such a neophyte with it. I do experiments with it and so do others, but I have *never* cured anyone, and most likely never will. However, I and others have had things healed because of using it. Jen is an expert on animals. I guess all this means, 'you get more flies with honey than with vinegar' and don't start taking potshots at one of us. While we may be [may be??? lol] catty sometimes with each other, 'some' of us close ranks when it comes to someone being a rat to the lot of us/our intelligence. And since this list is mostly women, it's not good for your business to start being mean at the git-go. Hey, I said it was LONG in the subject line! off to bed, Janine www.BlueSageNaturals.com where your skin is my concern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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