Guest guest Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 I have had back pain for years. I have 2 herniated discs (lumbars 4 & 5). I have been to Chiros' - taken herbs - saw my PCP for soma off and on - I have taken valium from time to time. I am soooooooooooo sick of the occasional 3 day misery I manage to get into from simply walking or packing boxes to move. etc.......... what would any one here (moderator or Doc) like to share about the possibilities of "Inversion Therapy ? . I had a pair of the boots with a bar and hooks to "hang" upside down YEARS ago. I am thinking a bit more geriatric these days and going with the chase lounge effect - any input is soooooooooooooooooooo needed and welcomed. Marilyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 herbal remedies , " marilyn " <firstmatehill@s...> wrote: > > I have had back pain for years. I have 2 herniated discs (lumbars 4 & 5). I have been to Chiros' - taken herbs - saw my PCP for soma off and on - I have taken valium from time to time. I am soooooooooooo sick of the occasional 3 day misery I manage to get into from simply walking or packing boxes to move. etc.......... > what would any one here (moderator or Doc) like to share about the possibilities of " Inversion Therapy ? > . > I had a pair of the boots with a bar and hooks to " hang " upside down YEARS ago. I am thinking a bit more geriatric these days and going with the chase lounge effect - any input is soooooooooooooooooooo needed and welcomed. > Marilyn > ******************************************************************** Hi Marilyn! I have back problems too due to a bad fall from a horse. I have an inversion table and it really helps me! The first thing I would like to suggest though is that you look in the files and look up Doc's back exercises. Do them EVERY day without fail!!!! They really help. Most of the exercises that Doc lists were also given to me when I was in physical therapy to rehab my injury. I find that I can use the inversion table in conjunction with the stretches and it can clear up back pain in half the time of not using it. The table is also a good way to drain your lymph nodes and increase blood flow to the brain. Be sure that you do not invert completely upside down at first. You need to work gradually into it and you also need to slowly increase the time you spend inverted. I believe that you should not stay inverted for more than 10 minutes at the absolute max. The only other warning I would pass along is to be sure to check on any problems with using the table with herniated discs, I am not sure if inversion would aggrevate them or not. Hope this helps! Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 herbal remedies , " Elaine " <horseaholic@s...> wrote: > > herbal remedies , " marilyn " > <firstmatehill@s...> wrote: > > > > I have had back pain for years. I have 2 herniated discs (lumbars > 4 & 5). I have been to Chiros' - taken herbs - saw my PCP for soma > off and on - I have taken valium from time to time. I am > soooooooooooo sick of the occasional 3 day misery I manage to get > into from simply walking or packing boxes to move. etc.......... > > what would any one here (moderator or Doc) like to share about the > possibilities of " Inversion Therapy ? > > . > > I had a pair of the boots with a bar and hooks to " hang " upside > down YEARS ago. I am thinking a bit more geriatric these days and > going with the chase lounge effect - any input is > soooooooooooooooooooo needed and welcomed. > > Marilyn > > > ******************************************************************** > > Hi Marilyn! I have back problems too due to a bad fall from a > horse. I have an inversion table and it really helps me! The first > thing I would like to suggest though is that you look in the files > and look up Doc's back exercises. Do them EVERY day without > fail!!!! They really help. Most of the exercises that Doc lists > were also given to me when I was in physical therapy to rehab my > injury. > > I find that I can use the inversion table in conjunction with the > stretches and it can clear up back pain in half the time of not > using it. The table is also a good way to drain your lymph nodes and > increase blood flow to the brain. Be sure that you do not invert > completely upside down at first. You need to work gradually into it > and you also need to slowly increase the time you spend inverted. I > believe that you should not stay inverted for more than 10 minutes > at the absolute max. The only other warning I would pass along is to > be sure to check on any problems with using the table with herniated > discs, I am not sure if inversion would aggrevate them or not. > > Hope this helps! > > Elaine been there, done all that. once back problems always back problems. the only thing from here in up keep and maintnance. i at onz time went to a doctor/chiro combination clinic for backs and they put me on whats called a drs ( disk recovery system ) it was 750.00 a day. thank god for insurance. they did it for 18 days. the first five which were very excruciating (when they brought the table up to the upright position, i had no feeling in my legs they had to leave me hooked up to the arm pit rolls to keep me from falling and an attendant in front of me to keep me from falling forward), i also cried the first 9 to 10 days during the process, it hurt so bad, then it started getting better. they also loaded me up on calcium, magniesium, and vitamin c, then they done a maintenance at once a month. but, slowly but surly with the types of work and the way i worked (focusing on the job at hand instead of body mechanics ), i went back to the same old same old, i am now 47 years old and almost completely disabled. i cant hardly do anything, cant do dishes unless setting in a chair. and if i really need something done i can put myself in a trance that no matter how much pain, im the only one and i have got to get this done and do it. but i usually pay for it for 2 days afterwards. i personall have not tried inversion therapy, except when i was a kid on the monkey bars. i dont think i could do it now because of my abilities, i used to be a spry thing, rode and broke and trained horses and ran a ranch. well i have a small farm and love my animals, but its getting harder and harder. trying now to make it easy now so that it will be easy for me later. but its taking time and i think i am running out of time. i myself have thought about trying to make my own drs with pullies, winch, and a table. heres how it went: they would put me on an upright table, with a harness on my lower half and two screw in logs under my armpits, then the table would lay back, then they would hook up a snap to the harness attached to a cable, he then lay the table down, then they would roll my pelvis back at the hips. he would then turn the machine on and it would pull at 110 pounds of pull for 45 seconds and let off to 30 of pull for 15 seconds and this would go on for twenty minutes, then heat and cold with a tinges unit. its so bad with me anymore my legs and heels and feet hurt. my back hurts all the time. but dont like what the pain killers the docs give to me, do to me. i have just dealt with the pain and when its bad i just muddle thru it and cry. i cant even hardly walk anymore at the grocery store without a cart. i am not saying you should do this or live with it as i have. i to have been looking still for that few minutes of relief even once a day. on occasion i will be in the barn and hang from one of the rafters for a few minutes, with my hands, just to appease the pain. sometimes its so bad i just have to lean on something, i dont ride much any more. and that breaks my heart. because i love my horses. i also have problems with my upper back with herniated disks from a ladder fall. the ladder went down and i came down with it and landed face down on the ladder and fractured a few ribs and hurt my upper back all together. they tell me for all my back its a brace or surgery. i figure i would not do the surgery unless needed. i have seen to many people who have had the surgery and they say now that they wished they hadnt done it. i cant wear a brace because it is restricting, and i want to keep any and all kind of movement in my back, once i stop thats it for the day for me. some times my feet feel as if they are not there or the ache so much. been to a poditrist and he says nothing wrong with feet. so i know its my back. i been rode hard and hung up to dry, as they would say. well i have just rambled on and chewed everyones ears off, i am so sorry. just wanted to let you know some of my ways of dealing with the pain, and to let you know your not the only one, maybe we can all help each other carmen aka: angels in heaven love light and joy be with all > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 I have been suffering from back pain for 20 years (and going to the chriopractor for relief) and about 2 years ago it got to the point where I could no longer do much of anything. I have done two things which has tremendously helped me. The first was read the book " Healing Back Pain " by Dr John E Sarno. The second thing I did was a program called the " Medex Healthy Back Program " and this truly got me started on the road to recovery. This did more for me than drugs, chiropractors, or physical therapy and it only took 5 minutes a visit. If you go to their website you can find a facility in your area. Sometimes they are at a physical therapist office and sometimes at a gym where the trainors are specially certified for this. Here's the websites http://www.medxonline.com/core/equip/equip_details.php?eqID=6 http://www.healingbackpain.com Vivian > > herbal remedies , " marilyn " > > <firstmatehill@s...> wrote: > > > > > > I have had back pain for years. I have 2 herniated discs (lumbars 4 & 5). I have been to Chiros' - taken herbs - saw my PCP for soma off and on - I have taken valium from time to time. I am > > soooooooooooo sick of the occasional 3 day misery I manage to get > > into from simply walking or packing boxes to move. etc.......... > > > what would any one here (moderator or Doc) like to share about > the possibilities of " Inversion Therapy ? > > > . > > > I had a pair of the boots with a bar and hooks to " hang " upside > > down YEARS ago. I am thinking a bit more geriatric these days and > > going with the chase lounge effect - any input is > > soooooooooooooooooooo needed and welcomed. > > > Marilyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Doc mentioned this wonderful therapy and I have to jump in here and tell all you about how it has been for me. Since I have been a member of Herbal Remedies I purchased an inversion table. You can find these on eBay and also HSN has a one for $329. Now I know that seems like a lot to some of you, but I've spent over a year in a lot of pain due to a back injury. I have tried everything, acupuncture is the only thing that touched the pain. It's wonderful how effective it is. I have wanted to try inversion therapy forever. Well, I was sick to death of not being able to get past the lower back spasms they would come on when I least expected them. Such pain no human should ever have to go through. There is lots of adjustment available on the table I have, but I know people who have slings that run about $100 dollars and are also very good. They also have bars and inversion boots that people have used since the beginning of time, this can be tricky as you must always be sure things are locked tight. None of us wants to break our back because we left a clamp unsecured. A friend of mine was injured in a head on collision 5 years ago. They wanted to fuse his spine together and he would not let them. He hung upside down from a tree, he couldn't even walk for about 2 years. He is completely healed and helping me with my herb knowledge and such. I encourage all of you who might be interested to do your research. I have several links to information but hesitate to send them to the group as once when I did that a medical link was buried and I missed it. I don't want to make that same mistake even though I don't think inversion therapy is accepted by Medico's. Isn't this a fantastic group we are in. I'm learning so many things. I found some lobelia growing in my yard today, and didn't even know what it was. This fellow I just mentioned identified it. Lobelia is good for seizure disorder and asthma. Love and hugs to all of you. Micki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Micki, thank you so much for posting this! I’d love to have those links! You can send them to me personally at caroleeddington. I also need to write to the group about NeuroCranial Restructuring. I just found out about it, and it’s the most miraculous physical therapy I’ve ever heard of! Here’s the site for it. www.drdeanhowell.com Carole herbal remedies [herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of Micki Thursday, July 06, 2006 8:39 PM To: herbal remedies Herbal Remedies - Re: Inversion Therapy Doc mentioned this wonderful therapy and I have to jump in here and tell all you about how it has been for me. Since I have been a member of Herbal Remedies I purchased an inversion table. You can find these on eBay and also HSN has a one for $329. Now I know that seems like a lot to some of you, but I've spent over a year in a lot of pain due to a back injury. I have tried everything, acupuncture is the only thing that touched the pain. It's wonderful how effective it is. I have wanted to try inversion therapy forever. Well, I was sick to death of not being able to get past the lower back spasms they would come on when I least expected them. Such pain no human should ever have to go through. There is lots of adjustment available on the table I have, but I know people who have slings that run about $100 dollars and are also very good. They also have bars and inversion boots that people have used since the beginning of time, this can be tricky as you must always be sure things are locked tight. None of us wants to break our back because we left a clamp unsecured. A friend of mine was injured in a head on collision 5 years ago. They wanted to fuse his spine together and he would not let them. He hung upside down from a tree, he couldn't even walk for about 2 years. He is completely healed and helping me with my herb knowledge and such. I encourage all of you who might be interested to do your research. I have several links to information but hesitate to send them to the group as once when I did that a medical link was buried and I missed it. I don't want to make that same mistake even though I don't think inversion therapy is accepted by Medico's. Isn't this a fantastic group we are in. I'm learning so many things. I found some lobelia growing in my yard today, and didn't even know what it was. This fellow I just mentioned identified it. Lobelia is good for seizure disorder and asthma. Love and hugs to all of you. Micki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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