coalescent points

[Guest guest]

Does anyone have a definition or reference to the coalescent points.

What does it mean that BL 12 and REN 1 are the coalescent points of

the Du Meridian? Thank you.

[Guest guest]

Co`a`les´cent

a. 1. Growing together; cohering, as in the organic cohesion of

similar parts; uniting.

[Meaning courtesy of: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Coalescent]

 

This leads us to the understanding that the word indicates, exclusively,

acu points

in physical proximity to each other.

 

By the same token it does not include:

a. points with similar functions such as yuan source, mu points, xi

cleft points.

b. points on the other side of a limb, or torso, such as SJ 5 across

from P 6.

 

What could be included would be:

i. 2 points budding from, growing from in a sense, the same meridian qi,

such as HT 7 and 6

ii. cohering also seems to allow 2 points close together inheriting the

same type of qi, such as

ST 1 and 2 at the infra orbital region.

 

My personal thought, somewhat outside the above definitions, would take

coalescent points

to mean points on the same plane, which is to say, the same or similar

physio-anatomical domain.

 

P 6 and P 7 would therefore be coalescent

P 7 and P 8 would not, because one is on the wrist, and the other on the

palm

 

Regards

www.acu-free.com

 

drneedles2002 wrote:

 

> Does anyone have a definition or reference to the coalescent points.

> What does it mean that BL 12 and REN 1 are the coalescent points of

> the Du Meridian? Thank you.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Many English books don't adhere to very rigorous translation

standards. As a result, many of us don't know what " coalescent "

points refer to because this term is rarely glossed in the literature

that uses this phrase. Thus, instead of simply looking at the Chinese

term in question and looking up its definition, we have people

speculating on the meaning of a Chinese concept based on the English

definition of an English word that fit a particular author's fancy.

" Coalescent " points are in fact a very simple and basic concept in

channel theory if we simply look at the source term.

 

In texts that have accountable translation methodology, these points

are usually called " intersection " (jiao1 hui4) points. Chinese

medical dictionaries define the term quite clearly and succinctly.

This English translation is taken from the Practical Dictionary of

(Wiseman & Feng, Paradigm Publications), which is a

reference text that offers translations of the Chinese definitions of

approximately 6000 terms in common clinical use.

 

Intersection point:

" Any point at which two or more channels intersect. Intersection

points have the ability to transmit a stimulus through both or all

channels that intersect at the point. APPLICATION: Intersection

points are used to treat disease affecting two or more of the

intersecting channels. POINT: san1 yin1 jiao1 SP-6 Three Yin

Intersection, for example, is often used to treat diseases that affect

any or all of the three yin channels of the foot because it is the

intersection point of the liver, spleen, and kidney. Genitourinary

diseases can be treated with point formulas that include POINT:

zhong1 ji2 CV-3 Central Pole because that point is the intersection

point of the three leg yin channels and the controlling vessel, all of

which are intimately connected with the genitourinary region. "

 

Professional practitioners should be well-versed in the meaning of

basic concepts in Chinese medicine, a task that is made much easier

with the use of consistent and transparent terminology. As a

profession, our grasp of technical concepts in Chinese medicine would

be much stronger if our authors did not spin off dozens of

unreferenced, personalized phrases for common terms that are easily

glossed and referenced to their Chinese source terms.

 

Eric Brand

 

 

 

 

 

Chinese Medicine , holmes

<dkaikobad@c...> wrote:

> Co`a`les´cent

> a. 1. Growing together; cohering, as in the organic cohesion of

> similar parts; uniting.

> [Meaning courtesy of: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Coalescent]

>

> This leads us to the understanding that the word indicates,

exclusively,

> acu points

> in physical proximity to each other.

>

> By the same token it does not include:

> a. points with similar functions such as yuan source, mu points, xi

> cleft points.

> b. points on the other side of a limb, or torso, such as SJ 5 across

> from P 6.

>

> What could be included would be:

> i. 2 points budding from, growing from in a sense, the same meridian

qi,

> such as HT 7 and 6

> ii. cohering also seems to allow 2 points close together inheriting the

> same type of qi, such as

> ST 1 and 2 at the infra orbital region.

>

> My personal thought, somewhat outside the above definitions, would take

> coalescent points

> to mean points on the same plane, which is to say, the same or similar

> physio-anatomical domain.

>

> P 6 and P 7 would therefore be coalescent

> P 7 and P 8 would not, because one is on the wrist, and the other on

the

> palm

>

> Regards

> www.acu-free.com

>

> drneedles2002 wrote:

>

> > Does anyone have a definition or reference to the coalescent points.

> > What does it mean that BL 12 and REN 1 are the coalescent points of

> > the Du Meridian? Thank you.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Holmes, & All,

 

The verb " to coalesce " also means to mix, merge or conjoin/meet.

 

IMO, the term " Coalescent Points " may refer to the Jiaoxue or Huixue

(Crossing, Meeting or Intersection Points), such as SP06-Sanyinjiao

(where the three foot yins meet), CV07-Yinjiao (Meeting Pt of CV,

Chongmai & KI Channels), or GV20-Baihui (where all the yangs and GV

intersect).

 

See: http://www.discuss-

acupuncture.com/acudiscuss/index.php/topic,138.0.html

 

 

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