Chinese Language books on TCM

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Hi Eric (Brand), Tom (Verhaeghe), and others

 

After months of searching, I've just found a website selling the

(apparently complete) " Zhongyi Yaoxue Gaoji Congshu " and " Zhongyi

Jichu Heshi Tubiaojie Congshu " series at reasonable prices - some

bookshops tried to rip me off big time. This site is based in

Beijing; even though they charge 100% on top of their list prices for

postage (1-2 months), I've found them much cheaper than other US

sites. And they're very helpful by email.

 

http://www.lovemandarin.com ; go to " Professional Materials " -

" Herbal & Health Care " and then click on the " More new products " in

the link at the bottom of the page. This takes you to the entire list.

 

The English names of the books are a nightmare; You have to click on

the links to go to the Chinese characters to work out what the books

are about. And the prices are somewhat misleading; you have to look

at the 'Membership price' and, in your mind, insert " USD " in front.

Nonetheless, chinese-learning practitioners of TCM in the West might

find this a valuable resource.

 

All the best

 

David

 

 

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< " Attilio D'Alberto " <attiliodalberto

<ate: Sun May 22, 2005 5:21 pm

<ubject: RE: Chinese Language Texts for Chinese Herbal Materia

<Medica + Formulae attiliodalberto

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<There is one Chinese bookshop in Chinatown, UK. If you enter

<Chinatown from

<Leicester Square, you can't miss it. £2-3 a copy, no chance! Normal

<over-priced rates apply.

<

<Kind regards,

<

<Attilio D'Alberto

<

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<Chinese Medicine , " Eric Brand "

<<smilinglotus> wrote:

<Chinese Medicine , " David Gordon "

<junhengclinic> wrote:

<I'm in UK

<and my only decent contact for getting Chinese language texts (so

<far)

<is Dr Ming at tcmtreatment.com, so I'll be onto him soon about

<these.

<

<You should easily be able to get these books in London. Go to

<Chinatown, go to a Chinese bookstore or pharmacy, and then ask them

<for the best Chinese bookstore for CM books. London should have such

<a store. Here's some ISBN's in case you need them:

<

<liu ban (shanghai keji jishu chubanshe) zhong yao xue: 7-5323-3706-5

<wu ban (also shanghai keji) zhong yao xue: 7-5323-0497-3

<qi ban renmin weisheng zhong yao xue tu biao jie (the one with the

<flow charts): 7-117-06090-5

<qi ban zhong yao xue (Hunan keji jishu chubanshe): 7-5357-0397-6

<

<All these books are very cheap. The cover price on each of them is

<only about 2-3 UK pounds. The price of Chinese books is reason alone

<to study Chinese language!

<

<Good luck.

<

<Eric

<

<-

< " David Gordon " <junhengclinic

<Sun May 22, 2005 6:22 am

<Re: Chinese Language Texts for Chinese Herbal Materia

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<Hi Tom and Eric and Z'ev:-

<

<Tom, thank you for your recommendations to the zhongyi yaoxue gaoji

<congshu series, published by renmin weisheng chubanshe. I'll track

<these down.

<

<Eric, thank you for various suggestions on the herbal texts. I'm in

<UK

<and my only decent contact for getting Chinese language texts (so

<far)

<is Dr Ming at tcmtreatment.com, so I'll be onto him soon about these.

<Regarding the Ye, Wiseman & Mitchell " Shang Han Lun " , I was browsing

<this the other day in the Acumedic bookshop in London, so I will

<definitely acquire this.

<

<Z'ev, I've just found your recommendation to Liu's Warm Disease text

<from Eastland Press in a previous post - thank you for this.

<

<One more thought: do any of you have a recommended English

<translation/commentary of the Nan Jing?

<

<All the best,

<

<David

<

<

< " Eric Brand " <smilinglotus

<Sat May 21, 2005 4:06 pm

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<The Paradigm Shang Han Lun by Feng Ye, Nigel Wiseman, and Craig

<Mitchell is the best SHL.

<

<Eric

<

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< " Eric Brand " <smilinglotus

<Sat May 21, 2005 3:55 pm

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<Typo correction on the colloquial names for the book titles:

<

<5th edition= wu ban

<6th edition= liu ban

<7th edition= qi ban

<

<You don't need to mess around with ISBN numbers or anything. All

<Chinese people who have studied TCM know what is meant by " wu ban, "

< " liu ban, " and " qi ban. " They are the standard texts for the PRC

<curriculum.

<

<Eric

<

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< " Eric Brand " <smilinglotus

<Sat May 21, 2005 3:50 pm

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<In addition to the titles by renmin weisheng that Tom listed, you

<should check out the series published by Shanghai Technology press

<(shanghai keji). Chinese people refer to the different editions as

<the 5th and 6th edition (wu ban and qi ban), these two are the best.

<

<The 7th edition of the PRC standard curriculum was split along

<several

<different publishers: Some of the most notable are the series known

<as

<21st century, and the texts put out by zhongguo zhongyiyao chubanshe

<and hunan keji (Hunan technology).

<

<A good student book is yi bai tian xue zhong yao (lit. 100 days study

<CM), also by shanghai keji.

<

<Renmin weisheng also has a nice new zhongyao xue text with lots of

<flow charts. It is more concise than the big yellow hardbacks that

<Tom is referring to below. Those big ones have a lot on pharmacology

<in addition to the basics.

<

<Almost all of these books contain basically the same info, but they

<all have a slightly different character. They are all titled zhong

<yao xue (lit. " Chinese medicinal study " ), and the formula editions

<are

<called fang ji xue (formula study).

<

<If you can read simplified Chinese, the zhong yao xue text put out by

<zhuyin from Taiwan is a really good one- the student edition is the

<same as shanghai's fifth edition, but the teacher's edition is a

<really good read (I think it may exist in simplified as well).

<

<Call Niming books in LA if you live in America. They should have all

<this stuff and will know it by the colloquial names such as shanghai

<keji wu ban zhong yao xue, etc. NIMING BOOKS CO, 969 N. Hill St Los

<Angeles, CA, 90012, (213)687-9817

<

<Eric Brand

<

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< " Tom Verhaeghe " <verhaeghe_tom

<Sat May 21, 2005 12:41 pm

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<David,

<

<I find the zhongyi yaoxue gaoji congshu series, published by renmin

<weisheng

<chubanshe to be very good. There's lots of detail in those books.

<Their

<materia medica is huge (two fat books, in Chinese), and so is there

<fangji

<xue. They also have a shang han lun and wenbing xue, with comments

<and

<interpretations.

<I will be lucky if I ever read through (and try to comprehend) the

<whole

<series!

<

<As far as I know though, they are only available from China. You

<could try

<ordering through China International Book Tradings Company.

<

<Best of luck,

<

<Tom.

<

<

< " David Gordon " <junhengclinic

<Sat May 21, 2005 11:28 am

<Chinese Language Texts for Chinese Herbal Materia Medica +

<Formulae junhengclinic

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<Z'ev and other scholars,

<

<Could you possibly help me by recommending the best text(s) for

<Chinese herbal materia medica (in Chinese language), ie the best in

<terms of the scope and/or depth of the material?

<

<Likewise, for Chinese herbal formulae?

<

<I am currently re-working my herb studies, but in Chinese instead of

<English, but having difficulty finding appropriate texts.

<

<I would be grateful if you could give publishers, authors,

<distributors, etc.

<

<Many many thanks!

<

<[snip]

<

<With best regards

<

<David Gordon

[Guest guest]

David,

 

prices are reasonable indeed- do they include shipping?

Alternatively, you could email a university (like Nanjing or Shanghai) and

ask them to send you the books. Surface mail from China is really cheap. And

you should be able to get the domestic prices for the books. I believe there

are over 20 books in the whole gaoji series, the list on the website you

mentioned is not complete. Still, a lot to read already...

Let me know if you need help contacting the universities. I just received a

few parcels from China, carrying 5 tdp lamps. I paid 400 euro for the five

lamps (including postage and custom fees.)Bargain! I got those from Nanjing

University of TCM.

 

Good luck,

 

Tom.

 

----

 

David Gordon

08/08/05 15:05:17

Chinese Medicine

Re: Chinese Language books on TCM

 

Hi Eric (Brand), Tom (Verhaeghe), and others

 

After months of searching, I've just found a website selling the

(apparently complete) " Zhongyi Yaoxue Gaoji Congshu " and " Zhongyi

Jichu Heshi Tubiaojie Congshu " series at reasonable prices - some

bookshops tried to rip me off big time. This site is based in

Beijing; even though they charge 100% on top of their list prices for

postage (1-2 months), I've found them much cheaper than other US

sites. And they're very helpful by email.

 

http://www.lovemandarin.com ; go to " Professional Materials " -

" Herbal & Health Care " and then click on the " More new products " in

the link at the bottom of the page. This takes you to the entire list.

 

The English names of the books are a nightmare; You have to click on

the links to go to the Chinese characters to work out what the books

are about. And the prices are somewhat misleading; you have to look

at the 'Membership price' and, in your mind, insert " USD " in front.

Nonetheless, chinese-learning practitioners of TCM in the West might

find this a valuable resource.

 

All the best

 

David

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

What country do you live in? If you live in America, Niming Books in

LA has almost everything and all their books are dirt cheap.

 

Eric

[Guest guest]

Hi Tom and Eric

 

Tom, the www.lovemandarin.com prices don't include shipping. The

whole Zhongyi Yaoxue Gaoji Congshu is actually on the website, all 20

texts (22 volumes I think, since two are double volume texts). You

have to click on the " More New Products " link at the bottom of the

page to get to the full detail to see them all. Total price for all

22 volumes would be USD 255.05. Postage (1-2 months) would then cost

an extra USD 255.05, making a total of USD 560.10. But this is still

cheaper than anything else I have found to date.

 

I tried China International Book Tradings Company, but they tried to

charge me AUD179.30 (ie approx USD137) for the two Fangjixue texts

ALONE, PLUS AUD73.50 for postage (for a package including two other

sundry texts). I smelled a rip off!!

 

I must confess, Eric, that I somehow forgot to contact Niming Books.

I'll give them a ring this afternoon. A pity their website isn't

working at the moment: www.nimingbooks.com.

 

Tom, I did try to contact Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou TCM

universities by email, but couldn't get any result. Partly because,

though I am starting to read TCM texts with some basic proficiency,

my everyday Chinese is aweful and I find navigating Chinese websites

really difficult.

 

I'd be really grateful if you could find the time to give me those

university contacts, Tom.

 

Five tdp lamps for EUR 400 sounds amazing - I know someone here in

London UK who broke their tdp lamp recently and was having difficulty

getting it fixed. At those prices he might be able to replace it.

 

All the best - and thank you for your advice!

 

David

 

 

Chinese Medicine , " Tom Verhaeghe "

<verhaeghe_tom@h...> wrote:

> David,

>

> prices are reasonable indeed- do they include shipping?

> Alternatively, you could email a university (like Nanjing or

Shanghai) and

> ask them to send you the books. Surface mail from China is really

cheap. And

> you should be able to get the domestic prices for the books. I

believe there

> are over 20 books in the whole gaoji series, the list on the

website you

> mentioned is not complete. Still, a lot to read already...

> Let me know if you need help contacting the universities. I just

received a

> few parcels from China, carrying 5 tdp lamps. I paid 400 euro for

the five

> lamps (including postage and custom fees.)Bargain! I got those from

Nanjing

> University of TCM.

>

> Good luck,

>

> Tom.

>

> ----

>

> David Gordon

> 08/08/05 15:05:17

> Chinese Medicine

> Re: Chinese Language books on TCM

>

> Hi Eric (Brand), Tom (Verhaeghe), and others

>

> After months of searching, I've just found a website selling the

> (apparently complete) " Zhongyi Yaoxue Gaoji Congshu " and " Zhongyi

> Jichu Heshi Tubiaojie Congshu " series at reasonable prices - some

> bookshops tried to rip me off big time. This site is based in

> Beijing; even though they charge 100% on top of their list prices

for

> postage (1-2 months), I've found them much cheaper than other US

> sites. And they're very helpful by email.

>

> http://www.lovemandarin.com ; go to " Professional Materials " -

> " Herbal & Health Care " and then click on the " More new products " in

> the link at the bottom of the page. This takes you to the entire

list.

>

> The English names of the books are a nightmare; You have to click

on

> the links to go to the Chinese characters to work out what the

books

> are about. And the prices are somewhat misleading; you have to look

> at the 'Membership price' and, in your mind, insert " USD " in front.

> Nonetheless, chinese-learning practitioners of TCM in the West

might

> find this a valuable resource.

>

> All the best

>

> David

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

David, the lovemandarin prices are the domestic prices- I remember I paid

over 2000 rmb for the series, which is something like 255 USD. Their postage

fee is rather expensive.

 

Here are some Nanjing email addresses:

njuiec

njuiectcm

guiqingzhang

 

The former two will bring you to the secretary of the international training

center, so they will understand English.

The latter address is the email address of Zhang Gui-Qing, who sent me the

tdp lamps. She hasn't replied to my last email, though. Her English is not

very good, I think.

But asking one of the secretaries to help sell you some books should also

work. Mention the title of the series and publishing house (or cut and paste

the Chinese title), perhaps a tdp lamp or two while you're at it...

 

Best of luck,

 

Tom.

 

----

 

David Gordon

08/09/05 12:17:41

Chinese Medicine

Re: Chinese Language books on TCM

 

Hi Tom and Eric

 

Tom, the www.lovemandarin.com prices don't include shipping. The

whole Zhongyi Yaoxue Gaoji Congshu is actually on the website, all 20

texts (22 volumes I think, since two are double volume texts). You

have to click on the " More New Products " link at the bottom of the

page to get to the full detail to see them all. Total price for all

22 volumes would be USD 255.05. Postage (1-2 months) would then cost

an extra USD 255.05, making a total of USD 560.10. But this is still

cheaper than anything else I have found to date.

 

I tried China International Book Tradings Company, but they tried to

charge me AUD179.30 (ie approx USD137) for the two Fangjixue texts

ALONE, PLUS AUD73.50 for postage (for a package including two other

sundry texts). I smelled a rip off!!

 

I must confess, Eric, that I somehow forgot to contact Niming Books.

I'll give them a ring this afternoon. A pity their website isn't

working at the moment: www.nimingbooks.com.

 

Tom, I did try to contact Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou TCM

universities by email, but couldn't get any result. Partly because,

though I am starting to read TCM texts with some basic proficiency,

my everyday Chinese is aweful and I find navigating Chinese websites

really difficult.

 

I'd be really grateful if you could find the time to give me those

university contacts, Tom.

 

Five tdp lamps for EUR 400 sounds amazing - I know someone here in

London UK who broke their tdp lamp recently and was having difficulty

getting it fixed. At those prices he might be able to replace it.

 

All the best - and thank you for your advice!

 

David

 

 

Chinese Medicine , " Tom Verhaeghe "

<verhaeghe_tom@h...> wrote:

> David,

>

> prices are reasonable indeed- do they include shipping?

> Alternatively, you could email a university (like Nanjing or

Shanghai) and

> ask them to send you the books. Surface mail from China is really

cheap. And

> you should be able to get the domestic prices for the books. I

believe there

> are over 20 books in the whole gaoji series, the list on the

website you

> mentioned is not complete. Still, a lot to read already...

> Let me know if you need help contacting the universities. I just

received a

> few parcels from China, carrying 5 tdp lamps. I paid 400 euro for

the five

> lamps (including postage and custom fees.)Bargain! I got those from

Nanjing

> University of TCM.

>

> Good luck,

>

> Tom.

>

> ----

>

> David Gordon

> 08/08/05 15:05:17

> Chinese Medicine

> Re: Chinese Language books on TCM

>

> Hi Eric (Brand), Tom (Verhaeghe), and others

>

> After months of searching, I've just found a website selling the

> (apparently complete) " Zhongyi Yaoxue Gaoji Congshu " and " Zhongyi

> Jichu Heshi Tubiaojie Congshu " series at reasonable prices - some

> bookshops tried to rip me off big time. This site is based in

> Beijing; even though they charge 100% on top of their list prices

for

> postage (1-2 months), I've found them much cheaper than other US

> sites. And they're very helpful by email.

>

> http://www.lovemandarin.com ; go to " Professional Materials " -

> " Herbal & Health Care " and then click on the " More new products " in

> the link at the bottom of the page. This takes you to the entire

list.

>

> The English names of the books are a nightmare; You have to click

on

> the links to go to the Chinese characters to work out what the

books

> are about. And the prices are somewhat misleading; you have to look

> at the 'Membership price' and, in your mind, insert " USD " in front.

> Nonetheless, chinese-learning practitioners of TCM in the West

might

> find this a valuable resource.

>

> All the best

>

> David

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for this information Tom.

 

Could you possibly complete the email addresses? They have all

terminated at the @ symbol.

 

All the best, David

 

 

Chinese Medicine , " Tom Verhaeghe "

<verhaeghe_tom@h...> wrote:

> David, the lovemandarin prices are the domestic prices- I remember

I paid

> over 2000 rmb for the series, which is something like 255 USD.

Their postage

> fee is rather expensive.

>

> Here are some Nanjing email addresses:

> njuiec@h...

> njuiectcm

> guiqingzhang@t...

>

> The former two will bring you to the secretary of the international

training

> center, so they will understand English.

> The latter address is the email address of Zhang Gui-Qing, who sent

me the

> tdp lamps. She hasn't replied to my last email, though. Her English

is not

> very good, I think.

> But asking one of the secretaries to help sell you some books

should also

> work. Mention the title of the series and publishing house (or cut

and paste

> the Chinese title), perhaps a tdp lamp or two while you're at it...

>

> Best of luck,

>

> Tom.

[Guest guest]

hao qiguai! (very strange!)

 

second try:

 

njuiec

njuiectcm

guiqingzhang

 

Hope you see them now,

 

Tom.

 

----

 

David Gordon

08/09/05 15:50:31

Chinese Medicine

Re: Chinese Language books on TCM

 

Thank you for this information Tom.

 

Could you possibly complete the email addresses? They have all

terminated at the @ symbol.

 

All the best, David

 

 

Chinese Medicine , " Tom Verhaeghe "

<verhaeghe_tom@h...> wrote:

> David, the lovemandarin prices are the domestic prices- I remember

I paid

> over 2000 rmb for the series, which is something like 255 USD.

Their postage

> fee is rather expensive.

>

> Here are some Nanjing email addresses:

> njuiec@h...

> njuiectcm

> guiqingzhang@t...

>

> The former two will bring you to the secretary of the international

training

> center, so they will understand English.

> The latter address is the email address of Zhang Gui-Qing, who sent

me the

> tdp lamps. She hasn't replied to my last email, though. Her English

is not

> very good, I think.

> But asking one of the secretaries to help sell you some books

should also

> work. Mention the title of the series and publishing house (or cut

and paste

> the Chinese title), perhaps a tdp lamp or two while you're at it...

>

> Best of luck,

>

> Tom.

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Still not working I'm afraid.

 

I imagine that either your email client or the server is doing

this. You could try to circumvent it by writing " (at) " instead of

the " @ " symbol?

 

David

 

 

Chinese Medicine , " Tom Verhaeghe "

<verhaeghe_tom@h...> wrote:

> hao qiguai! (very strange!)

>

> second try:

>

> njuiec@h...

> njuiectcm

> guiqingzhang@t...

>

> Hope you see them now,

>

> Tom.

>

> ----

>

> David Gordon

> 08/09/05 15:50:31

> Chinese Medicine

> Re: Chinese Language books on TCM

>

> Thank you for this information Tom.

>

> Could you possibly complete the email addresses? They have all

> terminated at the @ symbol.

>

> All the best, David

>

>

> Chinese Medicine , " Tom

Verhaeghe "

> <verhaeghe_tom@h...> wrote:

> > David, the lovemandarin prices are the domestic prices- I

remember

> I paid

> > over 2000 rmb for the series, which is something like 255 USD.

> Their postage

> > fee is rather expensive.

> >

> > Here are some Nanjing email addresses:

> > njuiec@h...

> > njuiectcm

> > guiqingzhang@t...

> >

> > The former two will bring you to the secretary of the

international

> training

> > center, so they will understand English.

> > The latter address is the email address of Zhang Gui-Qing, who

sent

> me the

> > tdp lamps. She hasn't replied to my last email, though. Her

English

> is not

> > very good, I think.

> > But asking one of the secretaries to help sell you some books

> should also

> > work. Mention the title of the series and publishing house (or

cut

> and paste

> > the Chinese title), perhaps a tdp lamp or two while you're at

it...

> >

> > Best of luck,

> >

> > Tom.

>

>

>

>

> To translate this message, copy and paste it into this web link

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>

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>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Ok, third try then:

 

njuiec at hotmail.com

njuiectcm at .cn

guiqingzhang at tom.com

 

Tom.