Biological control of mosquito-borne illnesses

[Guest guest]

Hi All, & Pete

 

I wrote:

> > I favour biological control of insects rather than chemical control.

> > IMO, DDT and its metabolite (DDE) are powerful toxins and should be

> > avoided if at all possible. See:

 

Pete replied:

> Hi Dr. Phil! Do biological controls reliably kill mosquitoes in

> sufficient numbers to stop the mosquito borne illnesses? If so, then by

> all means.

 

Pete, I am no expert in that.

 

However, Medline Abstracts indicate that some trials with biological

methods (use of mosquito predators, or bacteria / fungi that attack

them, have shown very significant reductions in mosquito larvae and/or

adult mosquitos in the area. See: http://tinyurl.com/9d33z

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

wrote:

>>> I favour biological control of insects rather than chemical

>>> control. IMO, DDT and its metabolite (DDE) are powerful toxins

>>> and should be avoided if at all possible. See:

> Pete replied:

>

>> Hi Dr. Phil! Do biological controls reliably kill mosquitoes in

>> sufficient numbers to stop the mosquito borne illnesses? If so,

>> then by all means.

>

> Pete, I am no expert in that.

>

> However, Medline Abstracts indicate that some trials with biological

> methods (use of mosquito predators, or bacteria / fungi that attack

> them, have shown very significant reductions in mosquito larvae

> and/or adult mosquitos in the area. See: http://tinyurl.com/9d33z

 

Hi Dr. Phil!

 

Well, they had better do something. The fish idea won't work in Florida.

The adult mosquitoes eat any fish the rednecks don't catch.

 

Regards,

 

Pete

[Guest guest]

However, Medline Abstracts indicate that some trials with biological

> methods (use of mosquito predators, or bacteria / fungi that attack

> them, have shown very significant reductions in mosquito larvae

> and/or adult mosquitos in the are

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Several months ago i heard an interview with 3ed world officials claiming that

not providing DDT to them is genocide. To them the millions of deaths a year are

a much more argent problem that the side effects of DDT.

 

 

 

Oakland, CA 94609

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

wrote:

> However, Medline Abstracts indicate that some trials with biological

>

>> methods (use of mosquito predators, or bacteria / fungi that attack

>> them, have shown very significant reductions in mosquito larvae

>> and/or adult mosquitos in the are

>>

> Several months ago i heard an interview with 3ed world officials

> claiming that not providing DDT to them is genocide. To them the

> millions of deaths a year are a much more argent problem that the

> side effects of DDT.

 

Hi Dr. Alon!

 

Genocide, strong word. I guess they don't like the alternative pesticide

approach Dr. Phil advocates.

 

Regards,

 

Pete

[Guest guest]

Genocide, strong word. I guess they don't like the alternative pesticide

approach Dr. Phil advocates.

>>>>>

They claimed that the only measure that works quickly enough is DDT. They are

loosing millions every year to mosquito born diseases

 

 

 

Oakland, CA 94609

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

wrote:

> Genocide, strong word. I guess they don't like the alternative

> pesticide approach Dr. Phil advocates.

>

> They claimed that the only measure that works quickly enough is DDT.

> They are loosing millions every year to mosquito born diseases Alon

> Marcus DOM

 

Hi Dr. Alon!

 

That makes sense, and they *are* in a position to know, after all.

 

Regards,

 

Pete

[Guest guest]

The problems with the Bio approach as I see them are;

 

It needs a working bio/medical/scientific structure behind it. The same

Pharmecutical industry that we all know and love so well has on several

occasions blocked funding for the set up of such an infrastructure in the third

world.

In the beginning it would require a healthy start up funding. The IMF/WB and

the US Aid etc have consistently refused such funding.

It takes a government that cares enough to do something a bit more complicated

and consistant than just spraying fly overs in planes...

Lacking in most countries and especially in the third world.

AND

 

In several third world nations where I have worked the governments use the

flashy (obvious and very visible) mass spraying as a propaganda tool.

 

In most cases they do not follow any safeguards but seem to just spray

everything and everywhere.

As for the word Genocide as defined by UN conventions it includes denying

medicines or help resulting in a significant number of deaths within a

population base. Deaths from Malaria are pandemic in the developing nations.

Doc

BTW

a web site operated by a member of a law firm with substantial connection to the

Pharm industry is not my first choice for info on such things

 

 

Pete Theisen <petet wrote:

wrote:

> However, Medline Abstracts indicate that some trials with biological

>

>> methods (use of mosquito predators, or bacteria / fungi that attack

>> them, have shown very significant reductions in mosquito larvae

>> and/or adult mosquitos in the are

>>

> Several months ago i heard an interview with 3ed world officials

> claiming that not providing DDT to them is genocide. To them the

> millions of deaths a year are a much more argent problem that the

> side effects of DDT.

 

Hi Dr. Alon!

 

Genocide, strong word. I guess they don't like the alternative pesticide

approach Dr. Phil advocates.

 

Regards,

 

Pete

 

 

 

 

 

http://babel.altavista.com/

 

 

and adjust

accordingly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Doc wrote:

 

Hi Doc!

 

Well, they probably have good, safe mosquito controls in the nice

neighborhood where the dictator lives, so that is what is important to

them. Sometimes there is nothing anyone can do.

 

Which website is operated by the lawyer with links to Pharma?

 

Regards,

 

Pete

 

> The problems with the Bio approach as I see them are;

>

> It needs a working bio/medical/scientific structure behind it. The

> same Pharmecutical industry that we all know and love so well has on

> several occasions blocked funding for the set up of such an

> infrastructure in the third world. In the beginning it would require

> a healthy start up funding. The IMF/WB and the US Aid etc have

> consistently refused such funding. It takes a government that cares

> enough to do something a bit more complicated and consistant than

> just spraying fly overs in planes... Lacking in most countries and

> especially in the third world. AND

>

> In several third world nations where I have worked the governments

> use the flashy (obvious and very visible) mass spraying as a

> propaganda tool.

>

> In most cases they do not follow any safeguards but seem to just

> spray everything and everywhere. As for the word Genocide as defined

> by UN conventions it includes denying medicines or help resulting in

> a significant number of deaths within a population base. Deaths from

> Malaria are pandemic in the developing nations. Doc BTW a web site

> operated by a member of a law firm with substantial connection to the

> Pharm industry is not my first choice for info on such things

>

>

> Pete Theisen <petet wrote: wrote:

>

>> However, Medline Abstracts indicate that some trials with

>> biological

>>

>>

>>> methods (use of mosquito predators, or bacteria / fungi that

>>> attack them, have shown very significant reductions in mosquito

>>> larvae and/or adult mosquitos in the are

>>>

>>

>> Several months ago i heard an interview with 3ed world officials

>> claiming that not providing DDT to them is genocide. To them the

>> millions of deaths a year are a much more argent problem that the

>> side effects of DDT.

>

>

> Hi Dr. Alon!

>

> Genocide, strong word. I guess they don't like the alternative

> pesticide approach Dr. Phil advocates.