Guest guest Posted September 27, 2001 Report Share Posted September 27, 2001 on 9/26/01 10:00 AM, Kit at kitcurtin wrote: > > For a patient suffering from hemachromatosis,an iron-overload disease, > where the > western cure is regular bloodletting, is there any implications in > giving blood supporting/nourishing herbs to combat fatique? > > > Thanks, > Kit Kit, think about it, wouldn't fatigue be more symptomatic of qi deficiency? Cara O. Frank, R.Ac herbbabe China Herb Company Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2001 Report Share Posted September 28, 2001 Kit, I have treated two px with this problem. Both responded to good old Xiao Yao San, i.e.. complete cure. I haven't done follow ups but their iron levels dramatically dropped to normal where they weren't expected to. Anecdotal, yes, but two out of two is encouraging. Good luck Graham Kit [kitcurtin] Thursday, 27 September 2001 12:00 AM Hemachromatosis For a patient suffering from hemachromatosis,an iron-overload disease, where the western cure is regular bloodletting, is there any implications in giving blood supporting/nourishing herbs to combat fatique? Thanks, Kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2001 Report Share Posted September 28, 2001 Thanks so much Graham, Interesting & good to know that nourishing blood (along w/ moving stagnanct LIV qi, strengthen SP)would reduce the iron levels. Appreciate it, Kit , " GJellett " <GJellett@b...> wrote: > Kit, > I have treated two px with this problem. Both responded to > good old Xiao Yao San, i.e.. complete cure. > I haven't done follow ups but their iron levels dramatically > dropped to normal where they weren't > expected to. Anecdotal, yes, but two out of two is > encouraging. > Good luck > Graham > > > Kit [kitcurtin@e...] > Thursday, 27 September 2001 12:00 AM > > Hemachromatosis > > > > For a patient suffering from hemachromatosis,an > iron-overload disease, > where the > western cure is regular bloodletting, is there any > implications in > giving blood supporting/nourishing herbs to combat fatique? > > > Thanks, > Kit > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2001 Report Share Posted September 28, 2001 Hi Cara, Thanks. But, the qi herbs were not giving me the same concern. I don't think one can ignore the blood issue in this disease. Kit > Kit, > > think about it, wouldn't fatigue be more symptomatic of qi deficiency? > > Cara O. Frank, R.Ac > herbbabe@e... > China Herb Company > on 9/26/01 10:00 AM, Kit at kitcurtin@e... wrote: > > > > > For a patient suffering from hemachromatosis,an iron-overload disease, > > where the > > western cure is regular bloodletting, is there any implications in > > giving blood supporting/nourishing herbs to combat fatique? > > > > > > Thanks, > > Kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2001 Report Share Posted September 28, 2001 Interesting & good to know that nourishing blood (alongw/ moving stagnanct LIV qi, strengthen SP)would reduce the iron levels.>>>>You often need to vitalize blood and clear heat as well Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2001 Report Share Posted September 29, 2001 Thanks Alon, ....for additional considerations... Kit , <alonmarcus@w...> wrote: > Interesting & good to know that nourishing blood (along > w/ moving stagnanct LIV qi, strengthen SP)would reduce the iron > levels. > >>>>You often need to vitalize blood and clear heat as well > Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2001 Report Share Posted September 30, 2001 on 9/28/01 9:29 PM, kitcurtin at kitcurtin wrote: > Hi Cara, > > Thanks. But, the qi herbs were not giving me > the same concern. > I don't think one can ignore the > blood issue in this disease. > right you are. information on iron content of blood tonics isn't necessarily available to us. In The Pharmacology of Chinese Herbs, 2nd edition, only 4 herbs are listed under " herbs promoting blood formation " : e jiao, ji xue teng, nu zhen zi, bai yao zi . and also, make sure you patient drinks black tea. the tannins ( which can also be obtained in other herbs) prevent iron absorption. -- Cara O. Frank, R.Ac herbbabe China Herb Company Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2001 Report Share Posted October 1, 2001 Thanks again Cara, I didn't know that about tannins. Kit , Cara Frank <herbbabe@e...> wrote: > on 9/28/01 9:29 PM, kitcurtin@e... at kitcurtin@e... > wrote: > > > Hi Cara, > > > > Thanks. But, the qi herbs were not giving me > > the same concern. > > I don't think one can ignore the > > blood issue in this disease. > > > > right you are. information on iron content of blood tonics isn't necessarily > available to us. In The Pharmacology of Chinese Herbs, 2nd edition, only 4 > herbs are listed under " herbs promoting blood formation " : e jiao, ji xue > teng, nu zhen zi, bai yao zi . > > and also, make sure you patient drinks black tea. the tannins ( which can > also be obtained in other herbs) prevent iron absorption. > -- > Cara O. Frank, R.Ac > herbbabe@e... > China Herb Company Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 hi folks, does anyone have any experience with hemachromatosis? thanks David Appleton Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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