TCM - looking forward (response to infrared study)

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In a message dated 1/30/06 8:44:43 AM, verhaeghe_tom writes:

 

 

> I have my doubts, since AFAIK

> sensations as we know them can only exist through the nervous system. And

> the nervous system alone cannot explain all the sensations one can feel

> during Qi Gong practice ( or on the treatment table).

>

 

One of my teachers used to say, " The nervous system is the last to know. "

What she meant was that primary, first-level sensory information is gathered on

a cellular level. Only when that information moves from cells to nerves and

then to higher brain centers such as the thalamus and cortex do we then have

" consciousness " of the sensory event in a " thinking " sense. But it is also

possible to have a cellular-level consciousness of what goes on around us, but

it is a different kind of consciousness; the information comes to us in a more

fleeting form, perhaps like what we call insight or intuition.

 

Some people also feel that the lymphatic system has a " sensory " aspect.

Interesting that the lymph returns to the heart rather than to the brain.

 

---roseanne

 

 

 

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In a message dated 1/30/06 11:30:27 AM, verhaeghe_tom writes:

 

 

> (Tom) Roseanne, do you have a reference for this? One of my own teachers

> talks about the connection between cell membranes and Jing Essence. You

> mention a Shen aspect to cells. Can you explain a bit more?

>

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RoseAnne: I don't have a written reference. The information taught by my

teacher was from her own explorations in consciousness. And those of us who

studied with her also learned this through our own explorations and a lot of

time spent in the 'experience'. I think to go further into description of my

own experience might take this beyond the desired scope of this TCM group.

But anyone is welcome to contact me off-list.

 

But one thing I guess i could say: it seems impossible to understand the

consciousness of cells when looking at the experience from the 'mind of the

nervous system'. In other words, one has to experience cells from the 'mind of

cells'.

 

---roseanne