Gymnema Sylvestre Vs Gynostemma Pentaphyllum

[Guest guest]

Ok I'm stumped.

I understand G. Sylvestre comes from India...destroyer of

sugar...diabetes and all that.

Chinese version I thought had same/similar latin name but now not so

sure. Past teachers had stated that Jiao Gu Lan and G. Sylvestre were

teh same....

looks the same.

Anyone?

Of course I just spotted this and giving a lecture on diabetes

tommorrow...watch me tap dance...

Bob

www.acuherbals.com

[Guest guest]

From the little that I know, the popular Indian folk

remedy herb is a primary one in the treatment of

diabetes because of its sugar-suppressing properties.

Jiao Gu Lan is a popular herb used in China for

treating quite a variety of disorders. It is generally

used as a key tonic herb with special emphasis on the

primary Fu organs (SP, LU, LIV, KI, HT). Frequently in

China, it is used to treat disorders of these organs,

including diabetes, which may be why the teacher you

mentioned indicated it being the " same " as the other

herb. From what I know, Jiao Gu Lan is often used to

treat pulmonary disorders like chronic bronchitis,

coughs, wheezing, stubborn sputum, etc.

 

Rene Ng

 

--- Robert Linde <boblindeherbalist wrote:

 

> Ok I'm stumped.

> I understand G. Sylvestre comes from

> India...destroyer of

> sugar...diabetes and all that.

> Chinese version I thought had same/similar latin

> name but now not so

> sure. Past teachers had stated that Jiao Gu Lan and

> G. Sylvestre were

> teh same....

> looks the same.

> Anyone?

> Of course I just spotted this and giving a lecture

> on diabetes

> tommorrow...watch me tap dance...

> Bob

> www.acuherbals.com

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Rene & Robert

 

My notes from WWW (not edited fully) say:

 

Jiaogulan

Hb Gynostemmae pentaphyllae;

Immortality Herb; Longevity Herb; Aka Qiyedan; Nanfangrenshen

Southern Ginseng bc of its tonic similarity w ginseng; in Japan:

Fuyincao; Ganchawan Sweet Tea Vine; Shenxiancao Deity / Immortality

Grass; Amachazuru, Vitis pentaphyllum, Xiancao (Miracle Grass); " Like

ginseng but better than it bc more supportive wo causing

overstimulation " ; " Women's Ginseng " bc it is kinder than Renshen to

female metabolism

 

Nature: sweet; bitter /bitter~slightly; neutral; Cold; ?warm;

 

non-toxic; used as tonic vegetable; Safe at standard dose rates as

regards organ damage, cancer growth, chromosome mutation, /

teratogenicity

 

Enters: LU, SP, KI

 

Dose: 2.5-3g, tid, for 10d

 

contains 82 saponins, some of which are related directly to Renshen

ginsenosides; 4/85 Jiaogulan saponins (called Gypenosides) are

identical to those of Ginseng

 

Actions: (1) Adaptogen (normalise body Fxs /help body to regulate

itself; aid reflexes; Antistress; resists depression of immune system &

other stress-related symptoms; boost immune system & support

adrenal Fxs); rectify/modulate CNS & Mental Fxs; biphasic effects on

CNS Fxs; energize / calm CNS depending upon body's need; Sedative;

Calm Shen; Calm in irritated nerves neurasthenia / overexcited CNS;

Boost CNS; brighten & clear mind; tone/stimulate depressed CNS;

Stimulate tissues to revitalize physiological activities; rectify/normalise

male & female hormonal Fxs & reproductive system; (2) Antioxidant;

Antiageing; Antisenility; longevity tonic herb; protect from free radical

damage; also act as LV Protector from damage dt certain drugs /

chemicals / by chronic alcohol abuse; boost endogenous SOD

(Superoxide Dismutase, an Antioxidant enzyme that scavenges free

radicals) & lower amount of SO radical & H2O2 in white blood cells;

premature hair greying; senility~premature; (3) Boost Yin & Support

Yang; rejuvenating elixir; Antifatigue; general health tonic in fatigue

syndromes; assist recovery from illness & fatigue; if body needs rest,

Jiaogulan promotes rest; if body needs tonic, Jiaogulan boosts energy;

Athlete’s Hb; Enhance Athletic performance; boost Stamina,

endurance & strength; Boost resistance against effects of excessive

exercise, oxygen deprivation, electric stimulus & high temperature; (4)

Aid Sleep in insomnia; anxiolytic in anxiety; hypnotic in tension,

insomnia, worry & anxiety; (5) Aid HT, Rectify BP & Aid circulation &

vascular Fx: strengthen/ boost HT Fx, causing HT to beat more

powerfully; Boost HT stroke volume / HT output; Boost / support

Circulation & vascular Fx; lower BP by decreasing vascular resistance &

increasing HT blood flow; boost blood supply & nourishment to body

organs; boost oxygen utilization; speed recovery from exercise; Rectify /

normalise BP, lowering it when it is too high & raising it when it is too

low; vasodilator; hypotensor in hypertension; Better than Renshen as

Hypotensor but also acts as Hypertensor if needed; reduce workload on

HT; CHD; HT & vascular diseases; HT ailments; unstable BP; HT

palpitation; prevent and control HT & Vascular disease; inhibit platelet

aggregation which lessens chance of CVA / HT attack; key components

of HT disease; rectify/normalise BP; reduced platelet aggregation may

help to reduce build up of plaques in blood vessels; (6)

Immunomodulator; rectify/normalise immune system (boost deficient /

sedate overactive immune system); Immunostimulant;

Antiinflammation: boost resistance to infectious diseases; modulate

lymphocyte formation & increases lymphocyte activity; enhance NK

(Natural Killer) cell activity in cancer patients; inflammation; Boost/

support Immune system; Boost WBC production in deficient patients,

like those who have undergone recent chemotherapy / radiotherapy;

boost Lymphocyte production; boost Phagocyte production; boost

serum IgG, but not to an excess; modulate lymphocyte transformation,

enhance lymphocyte activity & inhibit tumor growth; support

chemotherapy / radiotherapy; White blood cells: boost WBC production

in white cell deficient patients, like those who have recently undergone

chemotherapy / radiotherapy; (7) Tone LV Fx; LV Protector: Clear

Toxin; protect LV from toxic chemicals, like CCl4; Delay LV fibrosis;

Hepatitis B; Relax Spasms; prevent and treat LV Hepatitis B, LV

cirrhosis; reduce aminotransferases ;lower cholesterol by improving

LV's ability to send sugar & CHO to muscles for conversion to energy

instead of turning sugar into triglycerides which body stores as fat; it

lowers LDLs (bad cholesterol) while raising HDLs (good cholesterol); it

improves fat metabolism, reduces blood fat levels & depresses lipid

peroxide & fat sediment in blood vessels; rectify high cholesterol &

obesity problems; Normalise cholesterol, triglyceride & other lipoprotein

levels; Hypolipaemic; lower triglyceride levels; Hypocholesterolaemic in

hypercholesterolaemia; Lower total Cholesterol; lower LDL cholesterol,

& raise HDL cholesterol; (8) Antidiabetes; Hypoglycaemic; Diabetes w

hyperglycaemia; (9) Aid LU; Ease Cough; expectorant; Dispel Phlegm:

Bronchitis chronic; tracheo-bronchitis chronic; common colds & other

infectious diseases; cough; phlegm; (10) Rectify/normalise Digestive

System / Digestion, allowing underweight person to increase nutrient

absorption & gain weight in form of lean muscle mass; This regulatory

effect on bodily Fxs is hallmark of an adaptogen; Antiobesity; Appetiser;

help prevent constipation through its adaptogenic properties; prevent &

treat ST and duodenal ulcer; (11) Clear Toxin; Anticancer; cancer (LV,

LU, uterus, skin) & tumours; prevent cancer (LU, ST, LV, oesophageal

carcinoma, GB, Rectum, pancreas, mammary, uterus, etc);

Antiradiation damage

See actions; also stubborn illness; migraine~chronic; Haematuria;

oedema & pharynx pain; heat & edema of neck; tumors & trauma;

 

AVOID w Azathioprine (Imuran), CellCept, cyclosporine (Neoral,

Sandimmune), Prograf, Rapamune, Zenapak; avoid in pregnancy &

lactation; Side effects include nausea, poor appetite; abdominal

distention; increase in number of bowel movements; dizziness; weight

loss/weight gain;

 

Best regards,

 

HOME + WORK: 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland

Tel: (H): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

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" Man who says it can't be done should not interrupt man doing it " -

Chinese Proverb

[Guest guest]

I hope this does not breach etiquette to forward somebody else's email but

below is an email re Jiao Gu Lan that was listed by (hope you

dont mind, Phil).

 

Derek High

 

 

Chinese Medicine

Chinese MedicineOn Behalf Of Phil

Rogers

03 April 2006 08:59

Chinese Medicine

Re: Gymnema Sylvestre Vs Gynostemma Pentaphyllum

 

 

Hi Rene & Robert

 

My notes from WWW (not edited fully) say:

 

Jiaogulan

Hb Gynostemmae pentaphyllae;

Immortality Herb; Longevity Herb; Aka Qiyedan; Nanfangrenshen

Southern Ginseng bc of its tonic similarity w ginseng; in Japan:

Fuyincao; Ganchawan Sweet Tea Vine; Shenxiancao Deity / Immortality

Grass; Amachazuru, Vitis pentaphyllum, Xiancao (Miracle Grass); " Like

ginseng but better than it bc more supportive wo causing

overstimulation " ; " Women's Ginseng " bc it is kinder than Renshen to

female metabolism

 

Nature: sweet; bitter /bitter~slightly; neutral; Cold; ?warm;

 

non-toxic; used as tonic vegetable; Safe at standard dose rates as

regards organ damage, cancer growth, chromosome mutation, /

teratogenicity

 

Enters: LU, SP, KI

 

Dose: 2.5-3g, tid, for 10d

 

contains 82 saponins, some of which are related directly to Renshen

ginsenosides; 4/85 Jiaogulan saponins (called Gypenosides) are

identical to those of Ginseng

 

Actions:

(1) Adaptogen (normalise body Fxs /help body to regulate

itself; aid reflexes; Antistress; resists depression of immune system &

other stress-related symptoms; boost immune system & support

adrenal Fxs); rectify/modulate CNS & Mental Fxs; biphasic effects on

CNS Fxs; energize / calm CNS depending upon body's need; Sedative;

Calm Shen; Calm in irritated nerves neurasthenia / overexcited CNS;

Boost CNS; brighten & clear mind; tone/stimulate depressed CNS;

Stimulate tissues to revitalize physiological activities; rectify/normalise

male & female hormonal Fxs & reproductive system;

 

(2) Antioxidant;

Antiageing; Antisenility; longevity tonic herb; protect from free radical

damage; also act as LV Protector from damage dt certain drugs /

chemicals / by chronic alcohol abuse; boost endogenous SOD

(Superoxide Dismutase, an Antioxidant enzyme that scavenges free

radicals) & lower amount of SO radical & H2O2 in white blood cells;

premature hair greying; senility~premature;

 

(3) Boost Yin & Support

Yang; rejuvenating elixir; Antifatigue; general health tonic in fatigue

syndromes; assist recovery from illness & fatigue; if body needs rest,

Jiaogulan promotes rest; if body needs tonic, Jiaogulan boosts energy;

Athlete’s Hb; Enhance Athletic performance; boost Stamina,

endurance & strength; Boost resistance against effects of excessive

exercise, oxygen deprivation, electric stimulus & high temperature;

 

(4)

Aid Sleep in insomnia; anxiolytic in anxiety; hypnotic in tension,

insomnia, worry & anxiety;

 

(5) Aid HT, Rectify BP & Aid circulation &

vascular Fx: strengthen/ boost HT Fx, causing HT to beat more

powerfully; Boost HT stroke volume / HT output; Boost / support

Circulation & vascular Fx; lower BP by decreasing vascular resistance &

increasing HT blood flow; boost blood supply & nourishment to body

organs; boost oxygen utilization; speed recovery from exercise; Rectify /

normalise BP, lowering it when it is too high & raising it when it is too

low; vasodilator; hypotensor in hypertension; Better than Renshen as

Hypotensor but also acts as Hypertensor if needed; reduce workload on

HT; CHD; HT & vascular diseases; HT ailments; unstable BP; HT

palpitation; prevent and control HT & Vascular disease; inhibit platelet

aggregation which lessens chance of CVA / HT attack; key components

of HT disease; rectify/normalise BP; reduced platelet aggregation may

help to reduce build up of plaques in blood vessels;

 

(6)

Immunomodulator; rectify/normalise immune system (boost deficient /

sedate overactive immune system); Immunostimulant;

Antiinflammation: boost resistance to infectious diseases; modulate

lymphocyte formation & increases lymphocyte activity; enhance NK

(Natural Killer) cell activity in cancer patients; inflammation; Boost/

support Immune system; Boost WBC production in deficient patients,

like those who have undergone recent chemotherapy / radiotherapy;

boost Lymphocyte production; boost Phagocyte production; boost

serum IgG, but not to an excess; modulate lymphocyte transformation,

enhance lymphocyte activity & inhibit tumor growth; support

chemotherapy / radiotherapy; White blood cells: boost WBC production

in white cell deficient patients, like those who have recently undergone

chemotherapy / radiotherapy;

 

(7) Tone LV Fx; LV Protector: Clear

Toxin; protect LV from toxic chemicals, like CCl4; Delay LV fibrosis;

Hepatitis B; Relax Spasms; prevent and treat LV Hepatitis B, LV

cirrhosis; reduce aminotransferases ;lower cholesterol by improving

LV's ability to send sugar & CHO to muscles for conversion to energy

instead of turning sugar into triglycerides which body stores as fat; it

lowers LDLs (bad cholesterol) while raising HDLs (good cholesterol); it

improves fat metabolism, reduces blood fat levels & depresses lipid

peroxide & fat sediment in blood vessels; rectify high cholesterol &

obesity problems; Normalise cholesterol, triglyceride & other lipoprotein

levels; Hypolipaemic; lower triglyceride levels; Hypocholesterolaemic in

hypercholesterolaemia; Lower total Cholesterol; lower LDL cholesterol,

& raise HDL cholesterol;

 

(8) Antidiabetes; Hypoglycaemic; Diabetes w

hyperglycaemia;

 

(9) Aid LU; Ease Cough; expectorant; Dispel Phlegm:

Bronchitis chronic; tracheo-bronchitis chronic; common colds & other

infectious diseases; cough; phlegm;

 

(10) Rectify/normalise Digestive

System / Digestion, allowing underweight person to increase nutrient

absorption & gain weight in form of lean muscle mass; This regulatory

effect on bodily Fxs is hallmark of an adaptogen; Antiobesity; Appetiser;

help prevent constipation through its adaptogenic properties; prevent &

treat ST and duodenal ulcer;

 

(11) Clear Toxin; Anticancer; cancer (LV,

LU, uterus, skin) & tumours; prevent cancer (LU, ST, LV, oesophageal

carcinoma, GB, Rectum, pancreas, mammary, uterus, etc);

Antiradiation damage

 

See actions; also stubborn illness; migraine~chronic; Haematuria;

oedema & pharynx pain; heat & edema of neck; tumors & trauma;

 

AVOID w Azathioprine (Imuran), CellCept, cyclosporine (Neoral,

Sandimmune), Prograf, Rapamune, Zenapak; avoid in pregnancy &

lactation; Side effects include nausea, poor appetite; abdominal

distention; increase in number of bowel movements; dizziness; weight

loss/weight gain;

 

Best regards,

 

HOME + WORK: 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland

Tel: (H): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

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