Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Hi All, It is believed that some Chinese Formulas, such as Yunnan Baiyao, contain unlisted " secret ingredients " . IMO, if we cannot trust the datasheet that accompanies a medicine, formula or single WM compound, we should NOT prescribe it or use it in our practice. Science, whether WM or TCM, should have NO PLACE for " secret formulas " . IMO, we MUST know what we aree using / prescribing. Best regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 I totally agree. I've been saying this about YNBY for years, but no one wants to hear this. IMO, there's nothing magical about YNBY. Other than for traumatic injuries, you can stop most cases of bleeding just fine with a properly written Chinese medicinal prescription based on the patient's pattern discrimination. To me, using YNBY for gynecological bleeding suggests a lack of training and experience. While it may fulfill Ye Tian-shi's first rule of stopping bleeding, " Stop the bleeding, " in most cases, it does not fulfill either of his second two rules: " Treat the cause " and " Bank the root. " Bob , " " < wrote: > > Hi All, > > It is believed that some Chinese Formulas, such as Yunnan Baiyao, contain > unlisted " secret ingredients " . > > IMO, if we cannot trust the datasheet that accompanies a medicine, formula > or single WM compound, we should NOT prescribe it or use it in our > practice. > > Science, whether WM or TCM, should have NO PLACE for " secret > formulas " . > > IMO, we MUST know what we aree using / prescribing. > > Best regards, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Sorry, Al, didn't see your question. Pei2 ben2, bank the root. Ever done any gardening? It's when you pile up dirt around the base of a root to give it added protection/nourishment/support. This is a Nigelism. However, it is also the first definition of pei2 in The Pinyin Chinese-English Dictionary, The Commerical Press, HK, 18th printing, 2002. There are two interpretations of the root in this case: 1) the latter heaven root, i.e., the spleen, and 2) the former heaven root, i.e., the kidneys. Some people simply bank both. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 And the Eastland press translation for pei2 is 'nurture(s)' - > > > On Behalf Of Mike Liaw > Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:26 AM > > Re: Re: " Secret ingredients " in CHM Formulas > > Bob, > > Thanks for the source reference! > It's pei2 ben3, BTW. > > Mike L. > > Bob Flaws <pemachophel2001 wrote: > Sorry, Al, didn't see your question. > > Pei2 ben2, bank the root. Ever done any gardening? It's when you pile > up dirt around the base of a root to give it added > protection/nourishment/support. This is a Nigelism. However, it is > also the first definition of pei2 in The Pinyin Chinese-English > Dictionary, The Commerical Press, HK, 18th printing, 2002. > > There are two interpretations of the root in this case: 1) the latter > heaven root, i.e., the spleen, and 2) the former heaven root, i.e., > the kidneys. Some people simply bank both. > > Bob > > > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including > board approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a > free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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