Re:lifestyle choices

[Guest guest]

At 09:33 AM 2/29/04, you wrote:

> I'm talking about a lifestyle that a person chooses to live, that they

> are not willing to change, in fact, refuse to change,

 

do you really think that these people make a conscious, deliberate choice

to maintain that life style?

 

that it was a career goal for them?

 

Let's see... now that I'm out of school I think I'll become an

addict/alcoholic, betray everything I've ever believed in, put my life and

my health at total risk... yeah... great way to go!

 

the word " addict " indicates that one is UNABLE, not unwilling, to change.

 

The medical profession and the insurance companies say that it is an

illness... but you know better, it's just a matter of choice?

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

And the answer to your question is for the most part, A BIG FAT YES. You do not

know what is going on out there, if you really can't believe it. I didn't

realize it either until I started seeing it every day.

 

I see the same people over and over and over again, coming in for detox, to get

clean enough to go back out and abuse themselves. They do it until they really

can't take it anymore, come in for detox, get out of detox and start over. That

is just one very small example.

 

Marge, no one said it was a goal. It just is what they are doing. That's a

fact. I didn't make it up and it's not my perception. It's just the way it is.

Denying it will not make it better or make it go away.

 

I've shot more drugs into my arms than you have, I bet. I've watched these

people on a personal level. I got so sick and tired of being sick and tired, I

knew I had to get better. Ta Da! Here I am. I never made it a career goal.

When I was in high school, getting high at lunch and dropping speed all the

time, I wasn't thinking, hey, cool career. I just did it.

 

You're sarcasm about your perception of what I was saying about the subject,

isn't going to make these issues go away.

 

And actually, this is the definition of addict...Merriam Webster online:

 

Main Entry: 1ad·dict

Pronunciation: & -'dikt

Function: transitive verb

Etymology: Latin addictus, past participle of addicere to favor, from ad- +

dicere to say -- more at DICTION

1 : to devote or surrender (oneself) to something habitually or obsessively

<addicted to gambling>

2 : to cause addiction to a substance in

 

Your definition is incorrect and misleading. Not making people responsible for

who they are and what they do, only perpetuates issues. You can get free if you

want to bad enough. It all comes down to how bad do you want it?

 

An illness? Think about that. If it's an illness called, you're out of you're

freaking mind to stick a dirty needle in your arm! Then yes, I can agree with

that. Otherwise, no. Now they may have started out of some horrible childhood

trauma. I know I was severely abused as a child and an adult. I've been

knocked unconscious, had my nose broken, had a couple of black eyes, a wide

assortment of other physical abuses, suffered great emotional trauma, subjected

my children to it (who are BY THE GRACE OF GOD are free of that mess) as a

result of my abuse and choices and horrible, horrible insecurities. You know

the kind of insecurities where you stand in front of the mirror and call

yourself ugly over and over...or the kind where you think every single person

you talk to thinks you're stupid or ugly. Pretty sick, I'll agree with that.

The shrink said I associated love with abuse. That's pretty sick if you ask me.

If they mean an illness in that way, then I concur....BUT they can make the

choice to be free. I'm free now. I MADE THE CHOICE TO NOT BE THAT WAY ANYMORE.

 

If anyone wants to further discuss this with me, perhaps it's better to e-mail

me off group.

 

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